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Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:20 pm to tide06
Yep, we need to get us one of the European professional bball big men.
Looks like you must have at least one
Looks like you must have at least one
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:39 pm to InkStainedWretch
And some people aren’t happy unless they are unhappy.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:42 pm to RollTide33
You are right I have lost interest in basketball for some reason. I am still into the Rocket Eight and the Leon Douglas lead team. I did watch a lot of LA cable when Bill Walton was a sophomore at UCLA and enjoyed watching them play. I think the basket needs to be raised and the court bigger for today's players. If that happed I might get interested again.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:04 pm to stewieie
i think Oats had this in mind with Williamson at 7'0 255 and Collins Onyejiaka at 6'11 265 not to mention Aiden Sherrell who's probably 7'0 now and 255.
Williamson looks to be a bust and Onyejiaka's probably not going to play with health issues. Had all three worked out we wouldn't be getting pushed around so.
Williamson looks to be a bust and Onyejiaka's probably not going to play with health issues. Had all three worked out we wouldn't be getting pushed around so.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:05 pm to chefrossi
A tale of 2 halves.
Gotta rebound. Not a whole lot more to it than that.
Gotta rebound. Not a whole lot more to it than that.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:07 pm to IB4bama
I mean if you can find the right one great, but it’s more a sign that the game is evolving in terms of scheme.
If teams get too spread and light in football you run inside power until they adjust. I think that’s happening as the obvious counter to our drive and shoot system so we either need stretch guys who can pull those guys to the perimeter and box them out inside or we need some bangers who can play smashmouth against the teams who want to play that way.
I thought Sherrell played pretty well last night despite everything else, it was just an issue where the rest of the front court wasn’t ready for that level of physicality and our guards once again couldn’t get off shots over strong and long perimeter guards like we ran into against Duke last year in the tournament.
Not the end of the world but it does mean this team probably has a bit of a ceiling with regard to the first tier teams like UM/Zona/etc.
If teams get too spread and light in football you run inside power until they adjust. I think that’s happening as the obvious counter to our drive and shoot system so we either need stretch guys who can pull those guys to the perimeter and box them out inside or we need some bangers who can play smashmouth against the teams who want to play that way.
I thought Sherrell played pretty well last night despite everything else, it was just an issue where the rest of the front court wasn’t ready for that level of physicality and our guards once again couldn’t get off shots over strong and long perimeter guards like we ran into against Duke last year in the tournament.
Not the end of the world but it does mean this team probably has a bit of a ceiling with regard to the first tier teams like UM/Zona/etc.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 1:14 pm to tide06
I think Bethea needs more playing time. Hes a big guard with hops that looks to be able to fill it up and rebound. Why he didn't play more is beyond me.
Sherrell played well except for jacking up threes. He should have a brake shoot threes til he misses one then cut it out. Same for Bol Bowen. We need the ball in a shooters hands they need to be on the glass and not 20 feet away.
Sherrell stunned them in the first half. They went at him, and he was blocking everything he actually had their bigs intimidated.Bol Bowen blocked a few too. We have our rim protection
Now some folks have to want that basketball.
Sherrell played well except for jacking up threes. He should have a brake shoot threes til he misses one then cut it out. Same for Bol Bowen. We need the ball in a shooters hands they need to be on the glass and not 20 feet away.
Sherrell stunned them in the first half. They went at him, and he was blocking everything he actually had their bigs intimidated.Bol Bowen blocked a few too. We have our rim protection
Now some folks have to want that basketball.
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:01 pm to chefrossi
Anyone who says this is a "least talented" team is crazy. This squad is oozing with talent. Stop overreacting to December basketball.
Great news, re-bounding can be fixed.
Great news, re-bounding can be fixed.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:33 pm to KingOrange
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We need rebounders
Can we not go find some big European 7 footer like it seems every elite team has?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:39 pm to tide06
Oats is a special coach. He didn't come to Alabama and try to compete with blue bloods by playing their game (the downfall of Gottfried, Grant, Avery). He made the blue bloods stop his style of play. What is apparent is you generally have to be really good to beat Alabama. The downside is there is a deal with the devil in those metrics.
He fully subscribes to his system (hard to truly blame him, it's been super successful), but his system requires that you follow hard and fast rules. No mid range shots and no entry passes to bigs with back to the basket. Ideally his system would have the ability to be 5 out where everyone who is open has the green light from the perimeter. He says the metrics back him up that the mid range shot is a bad percentage shot. While I agree that it may be a lower percentage shot based on the points accumulated vs percentage made, it still unlocks an entire portion of the court that we don't use and that our opponent doesn't have to even consider covering. Defensively when you play Alabama. The elite teams high press the perimeter and camp out a rim protector and that has been difficult for us against long guards and wings.
I love Nate and respect the system and understand that it's probably necessary at a school like Alabama to draw interest from quality players who would usually not look at us. I'm ok with maybe even being considered a little gimmicky, but I do think we can teeter on being a bit of a finesse team that gets put in a corner by the elite teams
He fully subscribes to his system (hard to truly blame him, it's been super successful), but his system requires that you follow hard and fast rules. No mid range shots and no entry passes to bigs with back to the basket. Ideally his system would have the ability to be 5 out where everyone who is open has the green light from the perimeter. He says the metrics back him up that the mid range shot is a bad percentage shot. While I agree that it may be a lower percentage shot based on the points accumulated vs percentage made, it still unlocks an entire portion of the court that we don't use and that our opponent doesn't have to even consider covering. Defensively when you play Alabama. The elite teams high press the perimeter and camp out a rim protector and that has been difficult for us against long guards and wings.
I love Nate and respect the system and understand that it's probably necessary at a school like Alabama to draw interest from quality players who would usually not look at us. I'm ok with maybe even being considered a little gimmicky, but I do think we can teeter on being a bit of a finesse team that gets put in a corner by the elite teams
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 2:42 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:59 pm to GoodTalkRuss
This is our best team other than the Brandon Miller team. We just gotta rebound.
We have rim protection now with Sherrell, We play good 1st shot defense, we just gotta get the rebound to finish the possession and stop giving teams second opportunities.
Also need Holloway back 100%(I suspect he is done until SEC play) and we need Bristow back 100% to rebound.
We have rim protection now with Sherrell, We play good 1st shot defense, we just gotta get the rebound to finish the possession and stop giving teams second opportunities.
Also need Holloway back 100%(I suspect he is done until SEC play) and we need Bristow back 100% to rebound.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:25 pm to stewieie
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It is hard for me to get excited about Oats' teams
So you just hate Alabama basketball in general then I guess because I’m not sure what era you’ve ever enjoyed with that standard.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 5:36 pm to stewieie
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It is hard for me to get excited about Oats' teams. They play out of control (Wooden said be quick but don't get in a hurry), bad defense and turn the ball over excessively. I don't watch them because of this.
Oooook. You must have loved the Anthony Grant/Avery Johnson years. To each their own but I'll be over here enjoying us competing for the conference title and threatening to make a deep run in the tourney every year. If you ever get tired of pining for the basketball of 30+ years ago, I'll save a seat for you.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:07 pm to chefrossi
It's one game. In December. We can reconvene the negatider club in mid February if necessary, but it's completely and totally absurd to make any conclusions based on Fall games.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:12 pm to stewieie
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It is hard for me to get excited about Oats' teams. They play out of control (Wooden said be quick but don't get in a hurry), bad defense and turn the ball over excessively. I don't watch them because of this. I watched the first half last night, but went to bed once signs point of Arizona dominating which was early in the second half. When they beat St. Johns in Madison Square Gardens I thought they may have something this year only to be beaten by the only three good teams they have played. Oats needs to realize his short comings as a coach. He has improved Alabama and he may make a further step to do this, but I doubt it.
All-time take and I hope MBG doesn't miss this one.
Should Alabama football go back to the Wing T because Frank Leahy decided it was the best offense? Should Bryant have been fired early on because he didn't also run it?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:19 pm to Bama Bird
I like how this topic has just turned into asking the guy who can't get into watching the golden age of Alabama basketball if he's smoking crack.
It is a December loss. I've seen enough to identify the flaws of this team but I'm looking at the rest of the schedule - knowing the SEC is weaker than it has been in a few seasons - and figuring we're no worse than a 4 seed. We're seemingly the best team in the conference, so good chance we're the last team on the 2 line if we win the conference.
It is a December loss. I've seen enough to identify the flaws of this team but I'm looking at the rest of the schedule - knowing the SEC is weaker than it has been in a few seasons - and figuring we're no worse than a 4 seed. We're seemingly the best team in the conference, so good chance we're the last team on the 2 line if we win the conference.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:26 pm to Diego Ricardo
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I like how this topic has just turned into asking the guy who can't get into watching the golden age of Alabama basketball if he's smoking crack.
I’ve known people who smoke crack who are a lot smarter than this. This is brain trauma type shite
Posted on 12/14/25 at 6:46 pm to GoodTalkRuss
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I love Nate and respect the system and understand that it's probably necessary at a school like Alabama to draw interest from quality players who would usually not look at us. I'm ok with maybe even being considered a little gimmicky, but I do think we can teeter on being a bit of a finesse team that gets put in a corner by the elite teams
This is fair, but with the right personnel we are capable of making a serious championship run (as we've done a few times this decade). Oats will never be Wooden, Bill Self, Coach K, etc. but he absolutely can win a championship should all the right pieces fall into place at the right time and honestly, just being able to say that about Alabama basketball is enough for me
Posted on 12/14/25 at 7:53 pm to Diego Ricardo
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We're seemingly the best team in the conference, so good chance we're the last team on the 2 line if we win the conference.
I think people are throwing dirt on Florida's grave way to fast. They have been kryptonite for our style and Golden seems to have a pretty good formula against Oats strategy. Still think we have to prove it, before calling ourselves the front runner. Xavian Lee isn't Walter Clayton by any stretch, but they have been ultra competitive with the absolute elite in spite of him. They have a 6 point loss to Arizona, 4 point loss to UConn, 1 point loss to Duke, 4 point loss to TCU. I have my doubts we can stay within a point of Duke at Cameron. I have pretty serious reservations that we stay within 4 of UConn and we know what happened against Arizona. Tcu, I think we are a better team.
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