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Is CKD's coaching seat warm?

Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:54 am
Posted by Amarillo Tide
Amarillo, TX
Member since Aug 2023
957 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:54 am
After yesterday's fiasco, I think his coaching seat is not hot but it's definitely warm. If 2025 is this bad or worse, I would not be at all surprised to see him gone. If he's not fired over another year this bad or worse, his coaching seat will be molten magma hot.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
57733 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:55 am to
No
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
21830 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 6:58 am to
It’s not cool but his job isn’t in any kind of jeopardy at the moment.

However there are indicators and some red flags that suggest we aren’t heading in the right direction.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 10:12 am
Posted by babyray
Member since Oct 2010
314 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:20 am to
I’m getting Billy Napier vibes from this coach. I knew Napier was going to suck after his first few games. Florida is way too big of a job for that guy. As long as he is there, the Gators will be mediocre at best.

After witnessing DeBoer’s inability to make a desperately needed personnel change decision I don’t see him being here for years. We were losing games because of one player this year and the coach did absolutely nothing about it. I guess when you make $10 million a year and you get tens of millions if you get fired why would you give a frick?
Posted by Crimsonpirate23
Member since Jan 2024
140 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:58 am to
Warmer than any rational person would have expected after a transition from a 17 year reign of the legend.
Posted by InkStainedWretch
Member since Dec 2018
3669 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:06 am to
He no longer has any margin for error.
Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
4821 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:08 am to
His buyout is enormous. Hopefully he isn’t pulling a Harsin where he forced them to fire him so that he would get his entire buyout. DeBoer’s buyout would financially cripple us if we were to fire him in 2025.
Posted by Crimsonpirate23
Member since Jan 2024
140 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:12 am to
Blame the AD. Not a great leader without Nick.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
8796 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:16 am to
He's not going to be fired before the end of year 3 unless he gets caught doing something that is a for-cause termination issue.

He's got some heat on his arse because this season went poorly. Losing to 3 5 to 7 loss teams is not the standard here.
Posted by RollTide33
Member since Sep 2019
3787 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:31 am to
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DeBoer’s buyout would financially cripple us if we were to fire him in 2025.


It's 90% of whatever he's still owed on an almost 90 million dollar contract. It's probably not financially feasible to fire him before year 5 or even later.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
4195 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:36 am to
Stop with this crap. Just stop. Do you even know how insane some of yall are?

CKD will have 3 years at a minimum. And probably 5 if years 2 and 3 aren’t total implosion years.

I’m not saying CKD is the man for the job. That is TBD. But to discuss hot seat/ firing CKD is exactly what every other SEC team wants us to do. They want Alabama in chaos talking about how CKD is “on the hot seat” etc.

Posted by Bobby4Bama
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
91 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:51 am to
His margin for error will be a fat stack of cash in the tune of $50+ million.

Win win for if you're looking at from his perspective.

Posted by bamatide07
Member since Jan 2019
4821 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:00 am to
Yep. Almost like Jimbo at aTm.
Posted by CrimsonCrusade
Member since Jan 2014
5537 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:04 am to
The logic for these huge buyouts is that coaches are under so much pressure and risk quick firing. They have to make these really difficult decisions. But then when you actually watch it play out, it seems like most coaches don't actually make decisions. Whether that's DeBoer not having the guts to even consider benching Milroe or a host of other coaches who defer to analytics on every critical fourth down, I'm not seeing coaches take the risks that warrant these huge salaries, much less the buyouts.
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7667 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:13 am to
I dont think so. I still think DeBoer is a winner. He is going to implement his system fully this season and find a trigger man. 9 wins as a first year coach is hard. IDGAF how talented you think the team is. Not many coaches do it. All of you idiots that think Saban could take 2007 BAMA and beat the shite out of DeBoer and 2024 BAMA then why didn't Saban win 9 games in 2007?

Penix was with DeBoer before they got to UW. He knew his system. DeBoer got over 4000 yards from Jake Haener at Fresno but it was in year 3 of them together. This is totally on Milroe. I do admit it's on DeBoer for not benching Milroe. There has to be a connection that we don't know as fans. It's a better explanation than DeBoer is a bad coach, because that isn't true based on his resume.
This post was edited on 1/1/25 at 11:20 am
Posted by LovetheLord
The Ash Grove
Member since Dec 2010
5925 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:34 am to
I didn’t think I was going to like you at first, but you’re actually a pretty reasonable dude.
Posted by Crimsonpirate23
Member since Jan 2024
140 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 11:47 am to
I keep hearing “deboer is a winner”. Yea he has won where hes been - naia, fresno… uw. NONE of which are anything close to Alabama and sec.

What has he done during the first year at ua that gives you excitement for next year? Not, he will bed rid of so and so. What has he done specifically? Some will say uga win, but what if that was OUR Stephen Garcia game?
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
47216 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:45 pm to
He would have to miss a bowl game next year to even consider firing him
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
7667 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

What has he done during the first year at ua that gives you excitement for next year? Not, he will bed rid of so and so. What has he done specifically? Some will say uga win, but what if that was OUR Stephen Garcia game?


Several things. For one, he has recruited really well so far. He brought a center with him that doesn’t roll the ball to the qb. He also brought a legit WR1 with him.
The defensive scheme his coaches implemented held teams to approx 17 points per game which is good enough to be top 15 in the country. Despite over 9 turnovers in the last three games, the defense gave up an avg of 19 points (that's counting 24 for OU when we know that the defense didn't give up 24 in that game.) That's with multiple first year starters. And the defense got progressively better throughout the year. You don't remember how fricking awful BAMA's defense was in 2020? UF almost upset them in the SECCG. The difference was the starting qb at BAMA wasn't a RB. The 2024 defense was better than Saban's last 7 fricking defenses in points allowed. That's pretty exciting.
He won 9 games in what you say is the toughest conference in the country in his first year. He did this with a first time play caller after losing his OC to the NFL.
I don't view wins and losses the same. Wins are much harder to achieve. Wins vs uga and on the road vs LSU and a win vs barn are always going to be precious to me. A loss to Vandy? Doesn't really bother me in this new playoff era. The loss to tenner was as much poor officiating as it was poor play. The loss to OU was embarrassing. The loss to Mich was the most embarrassing loss of the year to me. They had opt outs and their starting qb was hurt in the middle of the game. BAMA had no business losing that football game. But what can a coach do besides scheme receivers open?
DeBoer and the defense put the team in a position to win every game. You can dismiss the brevity of the poor qb play this season especially in the home stretch and in the losses all you want, but it's 100% the reason BAMA wasn't in the playoff.

I base most of my optimism on what Coach DeBoer has done in other places. You say UW isn't the SEC, but Sark played in the SECCG this year. He never sniffed the PAC12CG at UW. DeBoer took that same UW to the precipice of a championship with a qb hed cultivated for over 3 years that nobody wanted out of high school excpet Indiana that now starts for an NFL team. Sark was fired from that post.

I'm excited to see how much of the struggles BAMA's offense had this season were on Milroe. If another qb comes in next year and throws for 4000 yards and wins 11 games I'll say "I told you so." If they don't, you can say it to me and I won't complain.
Posted by Tideordie256
Florence, AL.
Member since Jun 2022
323 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 12:51 pm to
He didn't coach up to the standard and he damn sure didn't motivate his players to play up to it every week. Great coaches treat EVERY game the same. When the coaches do this then the players do as well and therefore they don't just not get up for certain games. Listening to his pressers he just sounds so damn pleased with where were at as a team. He seems to think his assistants are better than we think they are as well.
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