re: Interesting Bama QB passing stat:

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Maybe it's the PC generation. Would everyone feel better if we gave Hurts a participation trophy?

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Why when he already has multiple team and individual trophies won at Alabama?

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Why when he already has multiple team and individual trophies won at Alabama?

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It was a joke, referring to the fact that so many fans can't handle the criticism of Jalen. And that maybe those people would feel better if we gave him something to make him feel special, as millennials are used to, e.g. a participation trophy.

Again, it was a joke, and the above explanation shouldn't have been necessary. But it was. Thank you for that.

I should have specified "downfield passing game" in my post.

And not sure if I'm included in the fans that you're referring to, because I love Hurts, appreciate all he's done for our team, really respect the way he carries himself, and wish nothing but the best for the guy. Recognizing his limitations in the passing game in no way negates that.

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I don't know what it will take for Jalen to come off the cross with this fan base.

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Now this is the kind of double standard that irks me. Let me try to explain.

To my eye, Hurts is a good/great leader, amazing runner, and bad passer. In the parts of his game outside the passing game, he excels. In the passing game, he is inaccurate with the ball, can't read defenses, can't throw people open, is gun shy, and looks to run too quickly. As a result of those objective observations, I'd give him an evaluation of 4 out of 10. In the non-passing categories, I'd give him 9s and 10s.

Well, wouldn't you agree that passing is an incredibly important responsibility of a QB, and many would say his most important - much like stopping the run is to an ILB? And so my point is that if Bama was starting an ILB who was a 4 out of 10 at stopping the run, the whole fanbase would burn him in effigy and be demanding his head on a pike.

So, why do you demand a double standard for the QB?

Why, and please answer this question, why does Alabama shoot for and attain the moon at each and every position outside of QB, and yet a portion of our fanbase wants to accept chopped liver at that position? We expect amazing, All-Americans at LB and Safety and Corner and RB and WR and Oline, yad yada yada, but let's settle for a QB who can't operate a functional passing game. Really? And then you have the audacity to call out fans for criticizing that position as you would any other.

Save your Jesus' references for someone else. It ain't gonna fly with me.

I love Hurts. He's a great guy and excels at many things, and I appreciate all he's brought to the Crimson Tide. But the criticism of his game is logical, deserved, and free of judgement of him as a person.

Our passing game is bad if he's in the game, and it's been true for long enough now to call a spade a spade, and I'm not being a bad fan for stating it. It's honestly sickening to have to make a post like this, as this thread was started as just an interesting stat, nothing more, but it ends of devolving into this "you shouldn't be saying that" shite with everyone having to defend positions they shouldn't have to defend.

The reason the horse keeps being beaten is some of you just can't handle criticism of that position and that player. It's/He's special for some weird reason. And I'm sick of it.

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I don't know what it will take for Jalen to come off the cross with this fan base.

Which is odd cause both natties he left our defense to die for his "sins."

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Cold. Blooded.

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Which is odd cause both natties he left our defense to die for his "sins."

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Jalen's game deserves criticism, but for a freshman in the Natty, he played pretty well. I wouldn't lay that game at his feet.

Sark and his desire to continue to run the hurry up with a stalling offense and the LEAD in the second half will always bear the loin's share of the blame. That and Bo Scarborough's leg bones.

I hear ya, but a word of advice for enjoying more jokes in the future: many jokes require that you do not take them literally.

Here are 2 examples courtesy of Norm MacDonald's SNL news desk:

“After grisly photos of the murder of Nicole Brown Simpson were shown in court, O.J. turned his head away and wept. It was at that moment that he realized he would never be able to kill her again.”

“In a sworn deposition this week, O.J. Simpson claimed that he never beat, choked, or hit his ex-wife with a closed or open fist. Luckily for O.J., lawyers forgot to ask if he had ever cut her head off.”

Do you see how "the absurd" is part of the gag?

I obviously don't need you to think I'm funny, but your reasoning for critiquing the joke is that it doesn't work when taken literally, which is a ridiculous critique of comedy.

I just don't think it works figuratively

It's okay, we can disagree.

Two below average passers - and the one that played in an era where short passes near the LOS was normal and threw the ball away on almost every play has the lower YPA.

Shocking.