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re: Caleb Downs

Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5799 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:01 pm to
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It dawned on me im recent years that I loved CFB just as much when Bama sucked than I do when Bama wins every game. I wouldnt trade those 17 years for anything


fricking A!!
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24266 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:04 pm to
Yes LsU had a ton of kids and were down to 35 scholarship kids. Played a bowl game with 50 players. This is what CFB is now.
Posted by footstepsfalco
Member since Sep 2018
789 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:06 pm to
Can we use Proctors NIL to retain C Downs?
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5959 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:09 pm to
quote:

Can we use Proctors NIL to retain C Downs?



I think Caleb Downs is gone less because of the money and more because he and his family don't like the DB coach hire tbh. He didn't enter the portal after the DC hire, he entered the portal after the DBC hire.
Posted by Woody4daTide9
Member since Sep 2022
377 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:09 pm to
Makes sense. Prolly didn’t have any relationship with the guy at all
Posted by UhOhOreo
Los Angeles
Member since Jul 2014
1783 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:14 pm to
Non competes are generally illegal in many states, and many non competes can only extend to book of business (client relationships)

You can’t blackball someone out of a job
Posted by Bear88
Member since Oct 2014
13281 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:16 pm to
Been brewing long before DC/DB hires
Posted by hnds2th
Valley of the Sun
Member since May 2019
3050 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:16 pm to
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we don’t have the NIL funds other schools do


I don’t get this narrative. We have the most loyal, obsessive fanbase in America. I grew up in New Orleans, graduated from Alabama, lived in California and now Arizona. Both Southern California and Phoenix have huge alumni groups. We support, financially, scholarships for local kids to go to Alabama, why would we not support athletes?

Nick made Alabama a national brand and I have no reason to believe alumni across the country won’t continue to support the university. Being an alumnus doesn’t leave you when you move to another state, we are Alabama until the end.

Alone, if every former athlete donated (just look at the number of nfl players), we should be in great shape.

Rich people are rich usually because they are shrewd business people. They won’t throw good money after bad, they want return on investment. Donating to nil is much different than making a donation to get your name on a building.

I’ll also say this, in the end it is just a sport. If the worst thing that happens to you today is for a player to enter the portal, consider yourself blessed and fortunate.

Perspective people
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5959 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Non competes are generally illegal in many states, and many non competes can only extend to book of business (client relationships)

You can’t blackball someone out of a job



The only way to contractually lock-in players to a program will involve classifying them as employees, striking out some kind of anti-trust agreement like the NFL with the federal government (will probably involve unionizing revenue-generating sport athletes), working out something with the DoJ/DoEd to shell game things around so this all doesn't cause Title IX issues, and getting a sport built on petty fiefdoms to all agree to come together and create a unified front to standardize contracts with the player's union.

To amend my post from earlier...not an "easy fix" in practice, just conceptually. Once they're employees instead of amateurs, a whole slew of things become possible that simply are not in the current half-measure, worst-of-all options arrangement.
This post was edited on 1/17/24 at 12:21 pm
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
22541 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:46 pm to
quote:

I don’t get this narrative. We have the most loyal, obsessive fanbase in America. I grew up in New Orleans, graduated from Alabama, lived in California and now Arizona. Both Southern California and Phoenix have huge alumni groups. We support, financially, scholarships for local kids to go to Alabama, why would we not support athletes?

I mean a lot of schools have this. But some of them have the uber wealthy backing them too. A single billionaire who’s heavily invested in the football program can easily outspend entire alumni groups.

I didn’t mean Alabama’s NIL is poor but there are certain programs we will never be able to outspend. Before we had Saban’s promise of development and success to off set things. Now we don’t

And yeah maybe some of them will stop donating to the teams as much if the results aren’t there but as of right now those schools have insane amounts of NIL offers to throw around
quote:

I’ll also say this, in the end it is just a sport. If the worst thing that happens to you today is for a player to enter the portal, consider yourself blessed and fortunate.

Very true. Plenty of people in the world with worse worries
Posted by captainFid
Vestavia, AL
Member since Dec 2014
4777 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Like I said, I bought a Downs jersey. My mistake. I can't wear it if he leaves, and I'll be very unlikely to buy one in the future.

Not your fault.. but this is one of the reasons my family tends to purchase them during their senior/junior year.
Posted by hnds2th
Valley of the Sun
Member since May 2019
3050 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 1:15 pm to
Someone please contact

Rece Davis
Hannah Brown
Justin Thomas

and ask them to pony up Your university needs you.

Maybe we can start a “go fund me”?, we could all claim pstd (post SABAN traumatic syndrome)
Posted by Crimson_Chaos
Alabama
Member since Oct 2023
1488 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:08 pm to
quote:

Not your fault.. but this is one of the reasons my family tends to purchase them during their senior/junior year.


I thought about that, and my logic was: "Let me get one that will be relevant for 3 years... "

Posted by Woody4daTide9
Member since Sep 2022
377 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:20 pm to
Or asking the wrong people
Posted by ETT2001
Member since Dec 2020
722 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:22 pm to
But he doesn’t have relationship with anyone excep TROB. Who’s his relationship at Ohio Staye?
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16995 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:26 pm to
Apologies for my earlier outburst everyone. That one hit a nerve.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28634 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

It dawned on me im recent years that I loved CFB just as much when Bama sucked than I do when Bama wins every game. I wouldnt trade those 17 years for anything, but CFB is a shell of what it was when I first got hooked in 1996



Dude. I could not agree more! Being a Bama fan does not revolve around wins and losses for me. There was so much forging thru fire and earning our crimson back then.

I will say, ironically, I do worry about my fandom as this sport is about to be players being paid more than coaches... all the behavioral problems this is going to fan the flames to etc... I hope I'm wrong, and I hope college football somehow magically continues to have all the magic it always has. And no doubt, I'll give it a while before I ride off into the sunset....

I used to daydream about being as epic as USC when Carrol was there. Or, of course, be like Bama was under Bear. I love the idea of dynasties. I wanted to be a part of one SO bad. And I got to LIVE that shite.

Now, I'm not so sure we will see dynasties ever again. I don't mean that in a hyperbolic way..
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5799 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:35 pm to
quote:

But he doesn’t have relationship with anyone excep TROB. Who’s his relationship at Ohio Staye?


It's all about the Benjamins.
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11670 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:53 pm to
Professor Terguson: Good answer. Good answer. I like the way you think. I'm gonna be watching you.
Posted by Islander
Orange Beach, AL
Member since Aug 2012
177 posts
Posted on 1/17/24 at 2:55 pm to
You obviously took that one as personal betrayal. Those are tough.
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