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re: At what point does Greg Byrne's seat start getting hot?
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:17 am to KingOfTheWorld
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:17 am to KingOfTheWorld
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He’s one of if not the best AD in the country. Bama’s sports teams are currently ranked #5 in the Learfield Director’s Cup, which measures a school’s strength across all athletic teams. That’s ahead of every other SEC school.
I don't disagree with any of that. But being good at sports is only part of the job.
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Give him a chance to right the ship.
Agree - like I said, not looking to fire him tonight or anything.
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Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:20 am to SummerOfGeorge
I love you, but this is a clown take and i'm not afraid to say it
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:21 am to UhOhOreo
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this is a clown take and i'm not afraid to say it
And I'm not afraid to accept it
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:26 am to SummerOfGeorge
People don’t want to hear it but Saban’s program about the only major men’s sport not embarrassing the entire university right now.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:32 am to Diego Ricardo
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People don’t want to hear it but Saban’s program about the only major men’s sport not embarrassing the entire university right now.
Golf is still pretty solid.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:34 am to RollTide33
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Golf is still pretty solid.
Feels like that program has taken several steps back over the past 6-7 years.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:35 am to SummerOfGeorge
Balancing the success that Byrne has had in other areas to the scandals of the last 12 months... I'm not sure it rises to the level of firing Byrne just yet. But I agree, the seat ought to be hot. There needs to be major turnover in several areas, starting with the PR department but in other places too.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:38 am to Bham Bammer
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He's not had a good year at all, and of the people he has hired, Oats is the only one that has been a real home run, and even that has come with some black eyes for the program.
How many coaches has he hired? Football, Softball, both Men and Women's golf and tennis (although women's tennis just retired), and track and field all have the same head coach that they had when he took over. The gymnastics and volleyball coaches just finished their first seasons, his rowing coach took the program to the NCAA championships for the first time ever in 2021, swimming coach seems to be doing ok...
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:38 am to Crimson77
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I'm not sure it rises to the level of firing Byrne just yet. But I agree, the seat ought to be hot. There needs to be major turnover in several areas, starting with the PR department but in other places too.
Well said - agree
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:41 am to BamaDude06
I think Byrne has made good hires on the balance. The basketball situation he and his media people should have handled that better. I don’t know what he can do about Bo doing unethical betting other than accept investigation findings and make the termination.
It’s just a bad trend. Our athletic department looks like the wild west right now.
It’s just a bad trend. Our athletic department looks like the wild west right now.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:44 am to SummerOfGeorge
I hear you, and probably agree with you.
I just don’t know what he was supposed to do differently here with the baseball stuff. Has Greg straightened everything out if zero coaches are involved in gambling scandals moving forward?
If he wasn’t fired for the Miller decision, I don’t see why he needs to go after this.
I just don’t know what he was supposed to do differently here with the baseball stuff. Has Greg straightened everything out if zero coaches are involved in gambling scandals moving forward?
If he wasn’t fired for the Miller decision, I don’t see why he needs to go after this.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
Almost all of this stems from the heat of the Miles thing imo. That was on Miles and he was obviously kicked off the team immediately (duh). The media irresponsibly flamed the shite out of those flames and I refuse to give those fricks the time of day or satisfaction of what they want - to cast a shadow over the entire athletic program for what Miles did.
Bohannon? seems like people are jumping to conclusions that this was some big gambling ring or something. But, again, dude, is apparently getting fired immediately which is all the AD can do. Unless more comes out, I'm not blaming Byrne for this at all.
What else?
Burton? I would have liked to have seen him suspended a game and I don't think Saban's comments about it were great. Could argue Byrne should have wielded some influence here. But we also know the characterization of what he did was blown WAY out of proportion.
The admin with a domestic violence charge? Sounds bad, but I don't know the details. Probably should wait and see as third degree domestic charge with a $200 bond screams charges are getting dropped because there wasn't much there but police felt like they should do something since they were called out. Obviously if dude hit his wife not in self defense he should be fired.
Again I think the media fueled frenzy of the Miles situation is coloring all of this imo.
ETA: It does suck that this stuff has happened in a short amount time, and there is the whole "buck stops with me" that a highly paid chief executive does have to live with so I get it. But I truly believe it's been a run of random shite that Byrne had no ability to control. However, if there is a way to set a different tone going forward it's up to him to figure out how to do it even if none of what's happened was within his control to do anything about.
Bohannon? seems like people are jumping to conclusions that this was some big gambling ring or something. But, again, dude, is apparently getting fired immediately which is all the AD can do. Unless more comes out, I'm not blaming Byrne for this at all.
What else?
Burton? I would have liked to have seen him suspended a game and I don't think Saban's comments about it were great. Could argue Byrne should have wielded some influence here. But we also know the characterization of what he did was blown WAY out of proportion.
The admin with a domestic violence charge? Sounds bad, but I don't know the details. Probably should wait and see as third degree domestic charge with a $200 bond screams charges are getting dropped because there wasn't much there but police felt like they should do something since they were called out. Obviously if dude hit his wife not in self defense he should be fired.
Again I think the media fueled frenzy of the Miles situation is coloring all of this imo.
ETA: It does suck that this stuff has happened in a short amount time, and there is the whole "buck stops with me" that a highly paid chief executive does have to live with so I get it. But I truly believe it's been a run of random shite that Byrne had no ability to control. However, if there is a way to set a different tone going forward it's up to him to figure out how to do it even if none of what's happened was within his control to do anything about.
This post was edited on 5/4/23 at 11:52 am
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:50 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Hard to disagree with this. But are we going to fire him is the volleyball coach gets in a drunken fight at a bar next?
I'm not sure it rises to the level of firing Byrne just yet. But I agree, the seat ought to be hot. There needs to be major turnover in several areas, starting with the PR department but in other places too.
I understand that the folks at the top take heat and get fired for things outside of their control sometimes. It seems like y’all are saying he’s close to SHOULD be fired.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:52 am to ReauxlTide222
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I understand that the folks at the top take heat and get fired for things outside of their control sometimes. It seems like y’all are saying he’s close to SHOULD be fired.
No - I don't think he's close to should be fired. I just think that after multiple instances there has to be some heat turned on his office as well in terms of "this is becoming a theme, how are we going to turn this around?".
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But are we going to fire him is the volleyball coach gets in a drunken fight at a bar next?
Don't speak that shite into existence
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:54 am to SummerOfGeorge
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don't disagree with any of that. But being good at sports is only part of the job.
Correct, but hiring good coaches who put a winning product on the field is job one. Handling controversy and scandal- which comes with the territory of college athletics - with tact and professionalism is also a huge part of the job. He’s got a lot of fires to put out. Let’s see if he can do it. It’s mixed at the moment.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 11:56 am to KingOfTheWorld
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Correct, but hiring good coaches who put a winning product on the field is job one. Handling controversy and scandal- which comes with the territory of college athletics - with tact and professionalism is also a huge part of the job. He’s got a lot of fires to put out. Let’s see if he can do it. It’s mixed at the moment.
100% agree. Hopefully we see some improvement/better "luck"/whatever moving forward.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 12:15 pm to Bham Bammer
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Feels like that program has taken several steps back over the past 6-7 years.
That tends to happen when a multiple major winner and a couple tour regulars aren't in the program any longer.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 12:16 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Was there ever any administrative punishment for Golding’s DUI last year that was announced publicly? I don’t ever remember seeing anything.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 12:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Correct, but hiring good coaches who put a winning product on the field is job one. Handling controversy and scandal- which comes with the territory of college athletics - with tact and professionalism is also a huge part of the job. He’s got a lot of fires to put out. Let’s see if he can do it. It’s mixed at the moment.
100% agree. Hopefully we see some improvement/better "luck"/whatever moving forward.
Inconsistency is not acceptable when it comes to professionalism. Mistakes can be made and excused, but when it comes to his responsiveness to the situations that he's been recently presented, he's found himself on the back foot and responded poorly.
I don't want him gone, he's done well with some of his biggest priorities, but he definitely needs to be held accountable and improve the consistency of how he responds moving forward. It's hard to recruit new coaches into a mess of an overall program.
Posted on 5/4/23 at 12:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Bill O'Brien and Pete Golding get defended on here for years yet Greg Byrne's seat should be hot over a couple months of issues?
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