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Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:49 pm to IB4bama
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:49 pm to IB4bama
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Do something! It only takes a couple of minutes
Do you actually think the House and Senate are going to vote to impose term limits on themselves?!
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Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:00 pm to JustGetItRight
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I fully and completely support term limits for elected officials at all levels
I think a mandatory retirement age would be far more productive. Then you wouldn't have a DC retirement community that is making decisions they won't be around to suffer the consequences of. It's absolutely fricking ridiculous that the two guys we are forced to pick from this November are in their mid to late 70s. John McCain being 70 during the 2008 campaign was a huge problem, but Trump being 74, obese, and anti-exercise and Biden being 77 and clearly in the onset stages of dementia is apparently no big deal.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:15 pm to Robot Santa
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For whatever reason there seem to be a ton of people who either believe that there are no problems at all and there's nothing to see here, or that American law enforcement is constantly playing a legal version of The Most Dangerous Game with black people. Neither is even remotely true.
RESPECT!
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:20 pm to phil4bama
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The one thing I see that makes me crazy from BLM, Sharpton, the white supremacy groups, and even the foreign subversives working to undermine our society is they all have one thing in common: they aren’t working to heal divisions, bring us all together and to solve the problems. On the contrary, they are working to keep us divided and at each others throats because that’s how they gain and maintain their power and their funding.
Riches and power are seized when the cries of injustice and tyranny are at their loudest. Both sides use the same argument, "let us help you, we're the only ones that care."
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:30 pm to Robot Santa
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I think a mandatory retirement age would be far more productive.
Not really. People very often get elected to the House in their 30s. Even if you made a 65 mandatory retirement age that's still 10-15 terms.
President gets 2 elected terms/8 years. Limit the House to 8 terms and the Senate 2.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 4:34 pm to RollTide1987
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Do you actually think the House and Senate are going to vote to impose term limits on themselves?!
There are a few that would but nowhere near enough.
One option would be the states do it via a constitutional amendment they initiate (never happened but the mechanism exists).
The second one - which could have a .05% or so chance of happening if there were a really big public outcry for limits would be an amendment that grandfathered in current officeholders. If you're in the House or Senate at the time of ratification you can continue to hold office as long as you're re-elected but the limit applies to your successor.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:13 pm to JustGetItRight
They would be much, much, much more likely to term limit their successors.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:23 pm to Robot Santa
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Neither is even remotely true.
Well that’s the internet and general public sentiment for you. And that extends to even outside of politics and social issues to things like entertainment and events. A lot of things are either overrated or underrated, best ever or worst ever, but rarely in between in.
People in general seem to like speaking in extremes. I guess because it’s easier to view things all or nothing and not the muddiness that is the grey area.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 1:54 pm to 1BamaRTR
Posted on 6/27/20 at 4:25 pm to TidalSurge1
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Posted on 6/27/20 at 8:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I support the message and video. This is hardly the place for any positive debate, and honestly, these platforms have only made things worse. Social media in general. Too many knee jerk reactions whether it be politically or emotionally driven. All I can say to everyone is keep an open heart and mind, try to understand, and be civil. Roll Tide.
Posted on 6/27/20 at 10:29 pm to 1BamaRTR
Words said by a US Congressperson on the House floor two days ago:
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"Black Lives Matter is a mandate from the people. It's time -- pay us what you owe us. “
Posted on 6/28/20 at 2:53 am to TideCPA
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Words said by a US Congressperson on the House floor two days ago:
Eventually all the people acting like Black Lives Matter is a worthy organization and a needed movement will either wake up, or out themselves as the totalitarian tools they are.
ETA: This movement has very little to do with "police brutality" and everything to do with power. Opposing what this movement is trying to accomplish is far more important than football. Coach Saban should have kept the team out of this.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 2:56 am
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:02 am to imjustafatkid
As always, personal opinions vary, but there are a few legitimate things on the table that have materialized as a result of BLM.
The power of police unions and the debate about "Qualified Immunity" for government officials are being seriously scrutinized. Given that "excessive force" by the police is indeed the elephant in the room, and affects all races, I'm all for taking a closer look.
Since the ongoing debate has been about wrongly shielding aggressive police through these entities, black and white citizens should welcome a serious look into something that so many have complained about over the decades.
In that these changes are now being hotly debated politically, that otherwise would not have without BLM, why not appreciate how everyone in the communities might stand to benefit from a new set of fundamental standards on how police do business?
The power of police unions and the debate about "Qualified Immunity" for government officials are being seriously scrutinized. Given that "excessive force" by the police is indeed the elephant in the room, and affects all races, I'm all for taking a closer look.
Since the ongoing debate has been about wrongly shielding aggressive police through these entities, black and white citizens should welcome a serious look into something that so many have complained about over the decades.
In that these changes are now being hotly debated politically, that otherwise would not have without BLM, why not appreciate how everyone in the communities might stand to benefit from a new set of fundamental standards on how police do business?
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:55 am to bamameister
As someone who is fiercely protective of civil liberties I absolutely welcome the discussion about police reform. It’s long needed and I was admittedly caught up in the initial wave of support for BLM because of it. The problem is, that’s a small component of what the organization stands for, which is basically burning down our constitutional form of government and casting as evil every traditional American cultural figure and norm. Embracing the movement isn’t worth the potential tangential benefit of police reform.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 6:56 am
Posted on 6/28/20 at 8:33 am to TideCPA
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As someone who is fiercely protective of civil liberties I absolutely welcome the discussion about police reform. It’s long needed and I was admittedly caught up in the initial wave of support for BLM because of it. The problem is, that’s a small component of what the organization stands for, which is basically burning down our constitutional form of government and casting as evil every traditional American cultural figure and norm. Embracing the movement isn’t worth the potential tangential benefit of police reform.
I wouldn't even begin to try to answer what this movement actually means for everyone involved. But much like this thread, the BLM debate continues to be framed through the activities of the police department. Actually discussing those specifics would seem like time well spent.
No one race has exclusive rights to feel that the criminal justice system, at times, is willing to walk through people's constitutional rights to get what they want. Minorities, poor people, and others have taken exception to it forever. Bad cops should have nowhere to hide.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:27 am to TideCPA
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As someone who is fiercely protective of civil liberties I absolutely welcome the discussion about police reform. It’s long needed and I was admittedly caught up in the initial wave of support for BLM because of it. The problem is, that’s a small component of what the organization stands for, which is basically burning down our constitutional form of government and casting as evil every traditional American cultural figure and norm. Embracing the movement isn’t worth the potential tangential benefit of police reform.
Yep. Police reform is the carrot they dangle, because there is at least some need for police reform even if it isn't as dire as the picture they paint.
I agree with ending ALL public sector unions and no knock raids, and Tim Scott's Senate Bill was a reasonable bill I could agree with. However, Dems wouldn't vote for it (ensuring no legislation will be passed) and one even called it "token" legislation. Did y'all see the calls for the resignation of those who blocked it? No?
These hypocrites deserve no one's support. They don't want any actual change. They want power for Marxist and leftists. Nothing more. The useful idiots protesting are witless tools.
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 9:40 am
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:36 am to imjustafatkid
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Yep. Police reform is the carrot they dangle, because there is at least some need for police reform even if it isn't as fire as the picture they paint.
I agree with ending ALL public sector unions and no knock raids, and Tim Scott's Senate Bill was a reasonable bill I could agree with. However, Dems wouldn't vote for it (ensuring no legislation will be passed) and one even called it "token" legislation. Did y'all see the calls for the resignation of those who blocked it? No?
These hypocrites deserve no one's support. They don't want any actual change. They want power.
So you're saying that the political and criminal justice system is broke. So are the protesters.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:42 am to bamameister
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So you're saying that the political and criminal justice system is broke.
Nope. There are some things that could be improved or need changed, but it mostly works just fine. There is no need for defunding police or shifting to community policing or any of that other pure crap.
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So are the protesters.
The protestors are anti-Trump. He is the only president to pass a criminal justice reform bill in decades. The protestors are morons.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:50 am to imjustafatkid
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Nope. There are some things that could be improved or need changed, but it mostly works just fine. There is no need for defunding police or shifting to community policing or any of that other pure crap.
That's because it works well enough for you. And pretty much the same reason you are unqualified in summing it up for others.
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The protestors are anti-Trump. He is the only president to pass a criminal justice reform bill in decades. The protestors are morons.
Careful, your emotional predisposition is showing again.
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