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re: "All Lives Can't Matter Until Black Lives Matter" - UA Football Video
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:54 am to bamameister
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:54 am to bamameister
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That's because it works well enough for you. And pretty much the same reason you are unqualified in summing it up for others.
It works fine for everyone. Hate it for ya. Saying things like "pretty much the same reason you are unqualified in summing it up for others" outs you as one of the useful idiots who isn't capable of actually discussing it honestly.
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Careful, your emotional predisposition is showing again.
Facts are scary for you, huh?
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:58 am to imjustafatkid
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It works fine for everyone. Hate it for ya. Saying things like "pretty much the same reason you are unqualified in summing it up for others" outs you as one of the useful idiots who isn't capable of actually discussing it honestly.
Let me compliment you on your avatar choice. Never has a picture said so much.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 12:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
frick BLM until they address black on black crime. They cant cry they dont matter if a white person does something but silent at the rate they are killing themselves. Thats some bullshite
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:23 pm to Bobby OG Johnson
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CHILD KILLED: 1-year-old Sincere Gaston was shot & killed traveling in a car with his mother when someone shot into their car in the 6000 block of S Halsted, South Side on June 27, 2020. Seen/heard anything tip at https://cpdtip.com. Our condolences. #chicagostreetcrime
Posted on 6/28/20 at 1:26 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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frick BLM until they address black on black crime.
Fair point.
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silent at the rate they are killing themselves.
Which organizations that address black-on-black violence do you support? Or, any organization that addresses unnecessary violence against any person?
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Thats some bullshite
This retort has been used, incessantly. Yet, I have not seen unfettered support for the organizations and individuals that are working, tirelessly, toward a less violent society.
I do not believe that US is such an awful place, where racism supersedes rationality. The majority of people have enough going on in their own lives that they are indifferent toward others with whom they do not share a close relationship. If we are being honest, most people have an inherent bias. It's not right or wrong. It's more about we tend to make decisions based upon on our comfort levels.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 5:32 pm to calgrad
That is the point of BLM right? But do you see them protesting in the street for the victims in Chicago? frick no. Its only when a white cop kills a black person period. There were not protests for the black retired officer that was in the pawn shop. Guess his life didnt matter, nor did the child that was shot in Chicago. How can they scream BLM but not say shite about them? bullshite.
If this was 2021, this shite wouldnt be what it is. Period. Its getting traction because of 2 things
1) They are getting funded by Soros and Democrats to incite shite so they can try to get Trump out since the best they can do is Dementia Joe. Democrats would rather see America burn that 4 more years of Trump
2) Democratic admin in the cities handicapping their own police force so they cant take action. Plain and simple.
If this was 2021, this shite wouldnt be what it is. Period. Its getting traction because of 2 things
1) They are getting funded by Soros and Democrats to incite shite so they can try to get Trump out since the best they can do is Dementia Joe. Democrats would rather see America burn that 4 more years of Trump
2) Democratic admin in the cities handicapping their own police force so they cant take action. Plain and simple.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:04 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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That is the point of BLM right?
Wrong. That was never the point of the BLM Organization. It was never about "all black lives."
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Its only when a white cop kills a black person period.
That's, precisely, why the group began, and that is their credence.
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There were not protests for the black retired officer that was in the pawn shop. Guess his life didnt matter, nor did the child that was shot in Chicago. How can they scream BLM but not say shite about them?
Again, BLM the organization is not looking to uplift black communities. This is from their website, "a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism."
Any argument about them not protesting black-on-black violence is irrelevant, because that has not, nor will it ever be, paramount to their success or their mission.
What we are witnessing is an unorganized "Marcus Garvey mixed with Elijah Muhammad Movement."
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:07 pm to calgrad
Thats why they will never accomplish anything meaningful. If they dont value their own lives outside of a very small number of very isolated incidents then they're building upon sand
This post was edited on 6/28/20 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 6/28/20 at 6:18 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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they dont value their own lives
Which is why our communities continue to struggle.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 8:29 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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Thats why they will never accomplish anything meaningful
They already have. This marxist, anarchist rabble has already accomplished far more than I would have thought possible. They are dictating the politics of this country and will directly affect this election....and its not looking good. These protests demonstrate a level of coordination and sophistication that is impressive.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:11 pm to 14&Counting
Mississippi legislators just agreed to take down their Confederate state flag. Freakin Mississippi! For a movement that is supposedly not accomplishing much, that's some serious change.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:13 pm to Lucky_Stryke
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Thats why they will never accomplish anything meaningful. If they dont value their own lives outside of a very small number of very isolated incidents then they're building upon sand
Question.
What does the violence level in black communities have to be in order for black people to address black people dying at the hands of the police?
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:16 pm to bamameister
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Mississippi legislators just agreed to take down their Confederate state flag. Freakin Mississippi! For a movement that is supposedly not accomplishing much, that's some serious change.
If they had allowed the people to vote on it like they did 20 years ago it wouldn't have been taken down.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:37 pm to TideSaint
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If they had allowed the people to vote on it like they did 20 years ago it wouldn't have been taken down.
That's the thing. No political movement or outside pressure has ever moved these rednecks from Mississippi to do anything but what they are inclined to do. Well, until now.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 9:39 pm to bamameister
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Mississippi legislators just agreed to take down their Confederate state flag. Freakin Mississippi! For a movement that is supposedly not accomplishing much, that's some serious change.
It depends on how you define meaningful. I could not care less about the Mississippi or Confederate flag, because neither of those pieces of cloth have affected my life. They are about as relevant to me as the flags of Portugal and Tanzania.
How I define meaningful change is: opportunities or detriments that are presented due to a change in circumstances or factors that lead to the ultimate success or failure of a group or subset. Meaningful change in the AA community would be better financial literacy, more emphasis on all levels of education, two-parent involvement, better health/health care, better diets, and more lasting community involvement. Those groups can tear down as many statues, as they like. March and riot until they get blisters on their feet, but none of it will lead to long-term change until the root-causes are addressed.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:25 pm to calgrad
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It depends on how you define meaningful. I could not care less about the Mississippi or Confederate flag, because neither of those pieces of cloth have affected my life. They are about as relevant to me as the flags of Portugal and Tanzania.
I define meaningful as in never happening before in the history of Mississippi. Each person can decide for themselves how it applies to them. I suspect the older you are the more symbolic today's gesture would get.
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How I define meaningful change is: opportunities or detriments that are presented due to a change in circumstances or factors that lead to the ultimate success or failure of a group or subset. Meaningful change in the AA community would be better financial literacy, more emphasis on all levels of education, two-parent involvement, better health/health care, better diets, and more lasting community involvement. Those groups can tear down as many statues, as they like. March and riot until they get blisters on their feet, but none of it will lead to long-term change until the root-causes are addressed.
I have no idea what ultimate longterm changes come from any push or pull from society. There's nothing new under the sun. But it does denote a level of unrest and dissatisfaction from people in general and on a level that is really unprecedented in my lifetime. Do I think it's "meaningful" enough to actually accomplish the social issues you mentioned? If it does, it will be the first time.
Posted on 6/28/20 at 10:25 pm to calgrad
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How I define meaningful change is: opportunities or detriments that are presented due to a change in circumstances or factors that lead to the ultimate success or failure of a group or subset. Meaningful change in the AA community would be better financial literacy, more emphasis on all levels of education, two-parent involvement, better health/health care, better diets, and more lasting community involvement. Those groups can tear down as many statues, as they like. March and riot until they get blisters on their feet, but none of it will lead to long-term change until the root-causes are addressed.
Let me preface this by saying that this goes for whites and blacks. A home with two parents that actually “parent” goes a long way. I was raised by a single mother, so I know what I’m talking about. Two parents, that want better for their child, and put forth effort, would stop a bunch of crime. It always starts at home.
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