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re: "All Lives Can't Matter Until Black Lives Matter" - UA Football Video

Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:35 am to
Posted by Robot Santa
Member since Oct 2009
44349 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:35 am to
Y'all keep throwing that statistic out there like it counteracts anything. It really doesn't. The cops don't deserve to be assaulted, much less killed, just for doing their jobs, nor does someone who is unarmed and harmless deserve to be hurt or killed by the cops. For whatever reason there seem to be a ton of people who either believe that there are no problems at all and there's nothing to see here, or that American law enforcement is constantly playing a legal version of The Most Dangerous Game with black people. Neither is even remotely true.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75847 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:39 am to
Then you have people like this:

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Another resident, Mitchell Erickson, said he regretted calling 911 when two black teenagers cornered him a block away from his home, held a gun to his chest and demanded his car keys. Erickson said he mistakenly handed over his house keys, and the frustrated teens left him only to steal another car a few blocks away.

“Been thinking more about it,” Erickson said in a text message to a reporter. “I regret calling the police. It was my instinct but I wish it hadn’t been. I put those boys in danger of death by calling the cops.”

“Yeah I know and yeah it was scary but the cops didn’t really have much to add after I called them,” he continued. “I haven’t been forced to think like this before. So I would have lost my car. So what? At least no one would have been killed.”


LINK

So don't alert the police to two individuals holding people at gun point to steal their property because the cops might kill them. Just completely ignore the fact that those two criminals could have killed the next person they tried to rob.

Jesus.

ETA: I don't give a damn what race someone belongs to, if they point a gun at my chest demanding my property the cops will be called. I'd post this even if the criminals mentioned were white. I can't believe the utter lunacy coming from that guy.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 8:44 am
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13977 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:45 am to
quote:

Are you serious? The Speaker of the House gave his family an American flag. Is she going to be giving one out to the families mentioned in the article I linked? Hell no.



Given my entire comment was a single thought that you partly agreed with let me say I must have framed some of it poorly.

Saying this is not a black movement and that George Floyd is not the single motivation for why all the protesters around the globe are able to sustain this fever pitch is one and the same for me.

quote:

It's a political thing.


Semantics. People are pissed and they want their pound of flesh. The sudden power shift has no doubt taken the protesters as much by surprise as anyone else.
Posted by phil4bama
Emerald Coast of PCB
Member since Jul 2011
11454 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:51 am to
The one thing I see that makes me crazy from BLM, Sharpton, the white supremacy groups, and even the foreign subversives working to undermine our society is they all have one thing in common: they aren’t working to heal divisions, bring us all together and to solve the problems. On the contrary, they are working to keep us divided and at each others throats because that’s how they gain and maintain their power and their funding. And we fall into their trap E V E R Y T I M E!
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
16985 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 9:39 am to
I’ll start this with saying I’ve had African American (AA) leaders while serving, AA subordinates etc. never ever had a single race issue ever come up. However, when I started work in Federal LE the stats simply do not lie.

The FBI UCR is the golden standard of criminal analytical studies. Table 43 which highlights murder and a myriad of other crimes simply point to a violent Small percentage of the population.

With that all that said, and someone made this point I think. It only seems like BLM pops out when a white cop, kills or harms a black person. The masses of AA folks killed or shot daily or weekly is totally brushed over.

Simply put, you have a better chance of being struck by lighting than being killed by police if a black man.
Posted by Golgi Apparatus
Member since Sep 2009
2553 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:00 am to
quote:

It's a political thing.


It’s a political movement that’s using wordplay in an absolute genius manner to shame/control the populace into a guilt that we as a society should have longe since passed.

This situation appears to be another rehashing of the age old war between individualism and collectivism.

In this iteration collectivist thought appears to have abandoned the proletariat for group identity via postmodernist critical theory.

This is something I abhor and will never support in any fashion, regardless of what slogan/shield that collectivism hides itself behind.

Lastly, I think the overwhelming majority of people (99% or more) know black lives matter. Why wouldn’t they matter? It’s an absurd statement to even make in 2020.






Posted by 14&Counting
Eugene, OR
Member since Jul 2012
37598 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:15 am to
quote:

The one thing I see that makes me crazy from BLM, Sharpton, the white supremacy groups, and even the foreign subversives working to undermine our society is they all have one thing in common: they aren’t working to heal divisions, bring us all together and to solve the problems. On the contrary, they are working to keep us divided and at each others throats because that’s how they gain and maintain their power and their funding. And we fall into their trap E V E R Y T I M E!


Divide and conquer. BLM and Antifa are the Democrats foot soldiers in their grab for power.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
13977 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:21 am to
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Lastly, I think the overwhelming majority of people (99% or more) know black lives matter. Why wouldn’t they matter? It’s an absurd statement to even make in 2020.




No reason why they shouldn't matter. 99% would be highly optimistic. It's why history keeps repeating itself.
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 10:46 am to
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ou say you get it, but then couch that understanding with a "but" to criticize them for not focusing on something YOU think they should focus on. If that issue is important to YOU, get off your arse and form a movement to draw attention to it. That tells me you that you don't actually "get it", and just want to armchair quarterback their movement from the comfort of your home.



I've been getting off my arse and doing something about it for 22 years - the first 20 of it for free.

I've responded to everything from a 4 year old girl sleeping beside her mom who was killed by a 7.62x39 fired through a wall by relatives to a guy shot by his friend over a poker game. They and every single other person I've helped treat that was shot by someone else intentionally and the person that shot them had one thing in common.

Don't sit there and tell me I don't get something I've seen with my own eyes and worn home on my clothing for over two decades.

I get that there's a perception that minorities - particularly black people - are being killed by the police. The one that triggered where we are now most certainly was but when groups say that one life matters but refuse to even acknowledge the other thousands that die every year they aren't credible.

There are voices in the wilderness but overall nobody's calling out the people doing those things, demanding change, painting slogans, etc for those victims. Now that I think about it you're right. It isn't hypocritical at all it's insulting.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 1:15 pm
Posted by Bama54
Neverland
Member since Nov 2011
5021 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:05 am to
quote:



We do have members of other fan bases who can post here.

I've seen some on the Rant already jealous of the potential impact on recruiting this video will have.



And most of them are LSU fans
Posted by TidalSurge1
Ft Walton Beach
Member since Sep 2016
36467 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:43 am to
Former players react to Alabama video calling for racial justice (BamaOnLine)



This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 11:44 am
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
10342 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 11:43 am to
quote:

It’s a political movement that’s using wordplay in an absolute genius manner to shame/control the populace into a guilt that we as a society should have longe since passed.

This situation appears to be another rehashing of the age old war between individualism and collectivism.

In this iteration collectivist thought appears to have abandoned the proletariat for group identity via postmodernist critical theory.
This is exactly right. It's genius, but also incredibly frightening. We are literally at a point in history where anyone who doesn't support or use the phraseology of Marxist critical theory revolutionaries (systemic oppression, white/cisgender/hetero "privilege" and "supremacy", etc.) is shouted down, labeled as every kind of "-ist" and "-phobic" word under the sun, and not uncommonly assaulted or terminated by an employer who doesn't want to deal with PR issue of wrongthink.

It's all fun and games until you're in the crosshairs of someone higher than you on the intersectional totem pole.
Posted by AlaBayouBama
surrounded by corndogs
Member since Jan 2013
174 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:59 pm to
Twitter is the head coach of your favorite college football team

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Yes, even at Alabama. Nick Saban is no longer in charge. He answers to Twitter. The 68-year-old winner of six national championships is one disgruntled-player tweet from disavowing all that he believes and running his team in accordance with Twitter bylaws.



Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75847 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

I get that there's a perception that minorities - particularly black people - are being killed by the police.


There's that word again.

Perception.

Not reality, perception.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75847 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:19 pm to
Official Statement from the UC Berkeley Chancellor

quote:

Some of you are aware of the tragic death earlier this week of third-year UC Berkeley student Seth Smith. Seth was walking near his off-campus apartment on Dwight Way on Monday evening when he was shot and fatally wounded.

Seth was 19 years old, majoring in economics, and was due to graduate in spring 2021. He came to UC Berkeley from Clarksburg, CA.

This is a senseless tragedy that affects all of us as a campus where the growth and development of our students underpins our entire mission. We offer our deepest sympathy to Seth’s family, friends, teachers, fellow students, and our community.

This news will undoubtedly raise concern about community safety. UCPD and the Berkeley Police Department (BPD) have responsibility for patrolling campus property and the city, respectively, and share a deep commitment to public safety. BPD is investigating the incident and is offering a $50,000 reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of all responsible suspects. BPD asks anyone with information about Seth’s killing to call the Homicide Unit at (510) 981-5741 or the department’s 24-hour non-emergency line at (510) 981-5900.

We realize this is a difficult time for those of you who knew Seth. It is important to know that individuals may express their grief differently and we need to respect the different ways people react and support each other in the days and weeks ahead. Many of you may have had a close relationship with Seth and are feeling a sense of loss and disbelief. Others, like many of us, are experiencing stress, grief and anxiety related to the coronavirus pandemic and the recent murders of George Floyd, Riah Milton, and other Black Americans.


Unbelievable.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 1:20 pm
Posted by calgrad
Westlake Village, CA
Member since Dec 2018
106 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:12 pm to
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Unbelievable.

There was an email sent out about this a couple of days, ago. Sad. In my opinion, East Bay is overrated. Berkeley has Richmond to the North, Stockton to the East, and Oakland to the South. Any one from that area can tell you how shitty those communities are. South Bay into Palo Alto is a much safer place.
Posted by saban n bear
Member since Aug 2013
2987 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

You’re just a troll and this should be the final straw with the mods. You aren’t a Bama fan and I hope people realize it. Edit: maybe I’m being too harsh, but damn. He has wanted Saban fired because of recruiting. Wanted to keep Avery Johnson. I just don’t know


Oh, sorry bro, did someone say something that you don’t agree with? You’re not old enough to understand how opinions work? Maybe you should go protest or break a window or something like the rest of the Democratic Party does when they don’t get their way, or, they just flat out grew up to be loser & piece of trash, and need someone to blame it on.
Posted by Bobby OG Johnson
Member since Apr 2015
24733 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Thomas Sowell
@ThomasSowell
Some Americans will never appreciate America, until after they have helped destroy it, and have then begun to suffer the consequences.
Posted by IB4bama
Pelham
Member since Oct 2017
1977 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:13 pm to
You guys can go to termlimits.com and do something about it.

I know there are pros and cons on this issue, but I dont see how it could be any worse than it is now.

Do something! It only takes a couple of minutes
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by JustGetItRight
Member since Jan 2012
15712 posts
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:37 pm to
I fully and completely support term limits for elected officials at all levels but literally nobody gives a single shait about online petitions.

Elected officials don't care. If you want term limits you've got to elect people that will vote for them - which is hard because once they get in power they want to stay in power.
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