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re: "All Lives Can't Matter Until Black Lives Matter" - UA Football Video
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:43 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 6/25/20 at 10:43 pm to The Spleen
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So does the white community.
Every community should condemn criminal activity. I'm not in Law Enforcement, but I am in the military. I work with people from every race on a daily basis. In the Air Force we have 3 simple core values that would do wonders for our country:
1. Integrity first.
2. Service before self.
3. Excellence in all we do.
In my experience, people are inherently "good" across all races. We stopped holding individuals accountable for their actions a while back and started projecting them across entire communities and that is tragic.
Are we not all on the same team here? We're all Americans. I mean, frick, why is it so Goddamn hard to get along?
ETA: I just realized I wasn't being totally honest in my post. I don't work with a Native American on a daily basis.
This post was edited on 6/25/20 at 10:49 pm
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 11:03 pm to JustGetItRight
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I get that, I really do but to emphasize one without looking at the other is at best hypocritical. They're joined at the hip.
As long as you can continue to hear the news of a murder with absolutely no other information, assume a black guy did it and be right more than you're wrong there will be problems.
There are organizations and efforts in crime ridden black areas like Chicago. They just don't get the same support and attention. They also aren't loud enough.
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Posted on 6/25/20 at 11:05 pm to stomp
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They also aren't loud enough.
That’s the problem with social media and the media in general
Only the loudest voices get heard whether or not they are justified causes
Posted on 6/25/20 at 11:11 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 6/25/20 at 11:13 pm to 1BamaRTR
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That’s the problem with social media and the media in general
Only the loudest voices get heard whether or not they are justified causes
I get this and I do agree, but to only blame media is letting the people off the hook.
Those articles came from simple google searches for information that cable/social media don't provide. At some point "We the People" have to exercise some person responsibility and discipline over what we consume.
CNN/FOX/etc aren't the only sources of information out there. We could all use a cable & social media fast for a while.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 11:47 pm to YStar
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What you state isn't facts, it's blind one-sided rhetoric.
All you've done is attempt to paint the black community as inhuman which is nonsense and speaks to who you are as an individual that you would even see things so slanted.
No. What you state aren’t facts, and is just just one-sided rhetoric.
All you’ve done is attempt to cover for race baiters, which is nonsense, and speaks to you as an individual that you would see things so cynically.
Posted on 6/25/20 at 11:55 pm to Cobrasize
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What Cal is doing is heroic, in my opinion. Imagine if Sharpton or Jackson would use their platform to promote people like Cal and others, instead of chasing cameras and capitalizing on division
There's no money in real difference making. Those guys made their living off being the faces of a movement that would have probably been better off without their antics. It took away from the real work done to clean up the drug era.
Birmingham and other larger cities were ransacked by the crack era of the 1980s. Crack is what loaded up prisons with black men who would have otherwise been working for a living and providing for their families. Our solution was knee jerk...the 1994 crime bill and mandatory minimums. Killed the black culture that birthed Jazz, Blues and Gospel. We went from Miles Davis to street glorification in less than 20 years!! 1965 to 1985.
Now here we are. How do we fix this for good? This is America, we can do anything. We have to fix this stuff AND dirty policing. They are both fires that need to be put out.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 12:21 am to stomp
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Now here we are. How do we fix this for good? This is America, we can do anything. We have to fix this stuff AND dirty policing. They are both fires that need to be put out.
It would help if we had more people that truly wanted to help issues instead of stoking the fires and creating chaos. The real problems get drowned out by the people that just want anarchy and chaos. This isn’t a white or black problem, it’s a white and black problem. There’s so many scrawny white folks out there that don’t care about the issues, they just come out to push their own agendas and try to disguise it.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 12:23 am
Posted on 6/26/20 at 1:24 am to RollTide4Ever
They need to shut up and play football.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 3:24 am to saban n bear
You’re just a troll and this should be the final straw with the mods. You aren’t a Bama fan and I hope people realize it.
Edit: maybe I’m being too harsh, but damn.
He has wanted Saban fired because of recruiting. Wanted to keep Avery Johnson. I just don’t know
Edit: maybe I’m being too harsh, but damn.
He has wanted Saban fired because of recruiting. Wanted to keep Avery Johnson. I just don’t know
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 3:28 am
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:14 am to saban n bear
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They need to shut up and play football.
You too... but since you don't play football, just do the other one really well.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:24 am to TideSaint
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I get that, I really do. The video was nicely done and I'm glad the University put it out there.
However, no one seems to protest about black lives mattering until it involves the police or a white person committing the murder.
This is what people should be rioting over:
They are. No one does anything without a personal motive. And frankly, a single killing of a man isn't enough to create a worldwide feeding frenzy we are watching. This is not a black movement. It's a people thing. The demographics are screaming it.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:26 am to stomp
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There's no money in real difference making. Those guys made their living off being the faces of a movement that would have probably been better off without their antics. It took away from the real work done to clean up the drug era.
Birmingham and other larger cities were ransacked by the crack era of the 1980s. Crack is what loaded up prisons with black men who would have otherwise been working for a living and providing for their families. Our solution was knee jerk...the 1994 crime bill and mandatory minimums. Killed the black culture that birthed Jazz, Blues and Gospel. We went from Miles Davis to street glorification in less than 20 years!! 1965 to 1985.
Now here we are. How do we fix this for good? This is America, we can do anything. We have to fix this stuff AND dirty policing. They are both fires that need to be put out.
The only part of this I disagree with is the 1994 crime bill and mandatory sentencing. It only covered federal crimes which is a very small part of the overall US prison population.
Also, I don't know your age but we're 30 years removed from the crack wars. If you can't remember that time, it's hard to imagine just how much worse things were. That era made today's murder rate look like a garden of Eden.
Chicago gets called ChIraq sometimes these days because of their murders. They recorded 490 in 2019. In 1994 they had 937 - two and a half murders a day. New York had 289 murders last year. In 1994 they had 1,561- more than 4 a day. Los Angeles had 253 last year but 850 in 1994.
There were certainly some things that were wrong with that crime bill (like the disparate sentencing guidelines for crack vs powder cocaine) but it wasn't the cause of the increase in incarcerations nor was it knee jerk, it was a reaction to the massive increase in violent crime that had occurred over the prior two decades.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 7:36 am to SummerOfGeorge
Watch and listen to Sam Harris telling the truth about this false, manufactured crisis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmgxtcbc4iU
Trigger warning - contains statistics!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vmgxtcbc4iU
Trigger warning - contains statistics!
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 7:55 am
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:05 am to stomp
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Turn OFF the cable news for a while and you might see what's really going on in this country.
Anecdotal evidence doesn't help your case my friend. These are all articles that were published anywhere from 1-3 years ago and have nothing to do with what's going on now. Also...I don't have cable.
This post was edited on 6/26/20 at 8:06 am
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:08 am to JustGetItRight
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I get that, I really do but to emphasize one without looking at the other is at best hypocritical.
You say you get it, but then couch that understanding with a "but" to criticize them for not focusing on something YOU think they should focus on. If that issue is important to YOU, get off your arse and form a movement to draw attention to it. That tells me you that you don't actually "get it", and just want to armchair quarterback their movement from the comfort of your home.
Every single organization that works to affect change doesn't put equal focus on tangentially related issues. I work with an HIV/AIDS non-profit that gives just passing attention to other STD's. That doesn't make them hypocritical in the least.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:12 am to RollTide1987
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Anecdotal evidence doesn't help your case my friend. These are all articles that were published anywhere from 1-3 years ago and have nothing to do with what's going on now. Also...I don't have cable.
Cut the bullshite.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:21 am to bamameister
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They are.
No, they aren't.
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And frankly, a single killing of a man isn't enough to create a worldwide feeding frenzy we are watching.
Are you serious? The Speaker of the House gave his family an American flag. Is she going to be giving one out to the families mentioned in the article I linked? Hell no.
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This is not a black movement.
This is an accurate statement. This movement is being fueled by people who want to destroy our society as we know it. Most of the people tearing down statues and monuments are white.
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It's a people thing. The demographics are screaming it.
It's a political thing.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:29 am to TideSaint
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Larry Elder
@larryelder
In 2017, over 60,000 cops were assaulted. More cops are killed by suspects in the line of duty each year than are unarmed blacks killed by cops.
Posted on 6/26/20 at 8:32 am to Bobby OG Johnson
BREAKING: 80-year-old man killed by stray bullet in SW Atlanta
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What are the odds of more protests and riots stemming from this senseless act of violence?
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An 80-year-old man was found shot dead Friday morning when police were asked to do a welfare check at a southwest Atlanta home.
The victim was discovered shortly before 4 a.m. at the home on Meadow Park Drive. He was identified by his family as Clarence Knocks, Channel 2 Action News reported.
Investigators do not believe the man was the intended target of the gunfire, Atlanta police spokesman Officer Steve Avery told the news station.
“Detectives believe the male may have been an unintended victim of a drive-by shooting,” he said in a statement. According to police, the shooting happened sometime Thursday night, but homicide detectives were not called to the scene until Knocks’ body was discovered Friday morning.
Officers collected as many as 20 shell casings in and around the home, Channel 2 reported.
What are the odds of more protests and riots stemming from this senseless act of violence?
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