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re: Setting the record straight on Mizzou and the Big 10
Posted by LOTOTiger on 5/14/25 at 8:08 am
quote:This is 100% accurate. I too have lived here forever. It was night and day excitement for the SEC vs the Big10. For most, the Big10 felt like a way out of the Big12, but the SEC was that with a whole lot of upside and opportunity. When Mizzou fans realized it was a real possibility there was so much more support for SEC vs Big10.
The excitement when the SEC became interested was night and day different. Among the fans.
I still believe Mizzou had some good fortune on their side that wasn't really due to their own actions - but that really doesn't matter, what does matter is they saw they opening and ran through it like Cody Schrader through a Tennessee defense.
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re: Setting the record straight on Mizzou and the Big 10
Posted by LOTOTiger on 5/14/25 at 7:57 am
quote:Just curious on the statistical process used to come up with 30%
there was less than a 30% chance of an invite
re: Setting the record straight on Mizzou and the Big 10
Posted by LOTOTiger on 5/14/25 at 7:55 am
quote:Yeah - i'm with you on the Basketball disappointment, believe me. Things fell apart for basketball when we were still in the Big 12 though. Sure, we won the last Big12 tourney, Haith and Anderson had some good teams - but those were outliers. Too many scandals and missteps with hiring once the Norm Stewart years were over and Quinn Snyder was just too young and immature at the time (led to some of those scandals). We still have the potential there - jury is still out on Gates.
he disappointing thing to me was the decline of your basketball program
As far as the Big10 invite... The way these seem to work is "back channel" communications are used to determine mutual interest and hash out details, but no invitations are given and no applications for membership are made unless both parties know the outcome. So - it is possible the money was discussed and hypothetically offered in the back channels - we will never know for sure. All I know is it lost a lot of steam when Nixon opened his yapper. And Mizzou never formally applied and Big10 never formally offered. Turned out alright though!
re: Setting the record straight on Mizzou and the Big 10
Posted by LOTOTiger on 5/13/25 at 5:34 pm
I agree that Mizzou fans were not necessarily clamoring for the Big 10. We all were kind of luke warm on it at best, but honestly I do think Mizzou fans would have been happy to go there to get out of the Big12. In the end - we were fortunate that Gov Jay Nixon ran his big mouth saying the Big10 would be foolish not to invite us. That soured the Big10 on Mizzou and they only invited Nebraska (Mizzou was never offered partial money or full money - it was no money as there was no invite at all).
That of course left us available when the door opened as Texas pissed of aTm one time too many (read R. Bowen Loftin's book "The 100 Year Decision"). I have no illusions that we had much leverage at that point, and freely admit we were fortunate the SEC wanted a second school when adding the Aggies . I don't think the SEC was really on many Mizzou fan's radar as a possibility - nor was Mizzou on the SEC's. But once it was - as you say - it was practically unanimous and obvious that Mizzou fans wanted to go to the SEC (other than a few still holding out for the KU rivalry) - the excitement was everywhere once it became a real possibility. As for the SEC, when they took a look at the potential in adding Mizzou (TV Markets, Alumni base, donor potential, academics, etc) it was really an easy decision.
Sometimes, things happen for a reason - Nebraska has all but disappeared in the Big10, and Mizzou's profile is so much higher in the SEC than it would have been in the Big10 or ever was in the Big12. To many's surprise Mizzou has held their own in football - even over achieved. We have seen, and continue to see, many improvements in our facilities and significant high $ donations. Other programs are rising (see Softball and Gymnastics). Admittedly, basketball has been up/down - but that was happening before joining the SEC. We still have a way to go in other areas (baseball comes to mind), and championships have been elusive - but anyone that thinks we aren't able to compete in the SEC and don't belong is not paying attention - and that's ok.
That of course left us available when the door opened as Texas pissed of aTm one time too many (read R. Bowen Loftin's book "The 100 Year Decision"). I have no illusions that we had much leverage at that point, and freely admit we were fortunate the SEC wanted a second school when adding the Aggies . I don't think the SEC was really on many Mizzou fan's radar as a possibility - nor was Mizzou on the SEC's. But once it was - as you say - it was practically unanimous and obvious that Mizzou fans wanted to go to the SEC (other than a few still holding out for the KU rivalry) - the excitement was everywhere once it became a real possibility. As for the SEC, when they took a look at the potential in adding Mizzou (TV Markets, Alumni base, donor potential, academics, etc) it was really an easy decision.
Sometimes, things happen for a reason - Nebraska has all but disappeared in the Big10, and Mizzou's profile is so much higher in the SEC than it would have been in the Big10 or ever was in the Big12. To many's surprise Mizzou has held their own in football - even over achieved. We have seen, and continue to see, many improvements in our facilities and significant high $ donations. Other programs are rising (see Softball and Gymnastics). Admittedly, basketball has been up/down - but that was happening before joining the SEC. We still have a way to go in other areas (baseball comes to mind), and championships have been elusive - but anyone that thinks we aren't able to compete in the SEC and don't belong is not paying attention - and that's ok.
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