Started By
Message
re: UGA to open 2016 Season against UNC in Chickfila Kickoff game.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:46 pm to UGAalum08
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:46 pm to UGAalum08
quote:
Money (more ticket sales & do not have to pay cupcake $1mil for a W),
Ticket sales? Playing UNC we'll get what, 30K allotted for the school? Opposed to playing southern at home where we'll have 85K tickets.
Yes there is a payout, but it's not that much. We pay GSU $525K for the game, not a million.
quote:
recruiting,
Playing UNC in teh dome will likely not produce any recruiting advantage opposed to a home game against southern. It's a "bigger" game, but no kid is going to either come to UGA or go elsewhere based on who our opening opponent.
quote:
quality matchups are way more interesting to watch than cupcakes
this has literally nothing to do with winning titles
quote:
higher final ranking,
1) If you win maybe. What if you lose? Playing a cupcake is a guaranteed win
2) After going through an 8 game SEC schedule, tech, and an SECCG, our spot in the rankings probably isn't going to hinge very much on whether we beat UNC or beat southern.
quote:
stronger SOS
Wins are more important than SOS. If by some miracle there are like 10 teams all vying for 4 spots it might matter, maybe...but I can assure you that if win the SECCG and have less than 2 losses we're in good shape regardless of our OOC.
quote:
more respect from other fan bases,
who gives a frick
quote:
exposure,
how much more "exposure" could UGA have? Are there voters or media outlets out there that don't realize we're a good football program?
quote:
better TV network (national vs Pay-per-view).
this one has a tiny bit of merit. All that matter are wins and losses, not nielson ratings. True some west coast voter may see 1 more game of ours than had we played southern, but in December when our resume is getting compared to others' us beign on TV in week 1 isn't really going to matter.
4
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:49 pm to SquatchDawg
Really? You're asking me to read the minds of a freaking selection committee for something that hasn't even happened yet?
Hell,we could sweep the east and lose an OT game to Bama and the committee still might have us under consideration...who freaking knows what's gonna happne year to year in CFB
Hell,we could sweep the east and lose an OT game to Bama and the committee still might have us under consideration...who freaking knows what's gonna happne year to year in CFB
This post was edited on 2/20/15 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:54 pm to WG_Dawg
WG: The question asked was "what advantages do a UNC win have over a GA Southern win"
The fact that we have to pay GA Southern to come completely negates home ticket sales. Overall, far more revenue flowing through playing UNC.
Recruiting: May not help a whole lot, but it certainly doesn't hurt. What I know for a fact would hurt would be continuously scheduling cupcakes. The kids like to see if they'd have the opportunity to play marquee matchups out of the conference. Is it a dealbreaker? Absolutely not. Neither is IPF, OC, conference, city, grounds, etc...but all of these contribute, and anything we can do to make the decision easier on recruits (in a good way), is a good thing for recruiting. The occasional strong OOC matchup does this. Cupcakes do not.
Honestly, I was responding directly to the question at hand, which was assuming a W.
ESPN vs Pay-per-view. More exposure. Exposure is always good when you win.
The fact that we have to pay GA Southern to come completely negates home ticket sales. Overall, far more revenue flowing through playing UNC.
Recruiting: May not help a whole lot, but it certainly doesn't hurt. What I know for a fact would hurt would be continuously scheduling cupcakes. The kids like to see if they'd have the opportunity to play marquee matchups out of the conference. Is it a dealbreaker? Absolutely not. Neither is IPF, OC, conference, city, grounds, etc...but all of these contribute, and anything we can do to make the decision easier on recruits (in a good way), is a good thing for recruiting. The occasional strong OOC matchup does this. Cupcakes do not.
quote:
What if you lose?
quote:
Wins are more important than SOS
Honestly, I was responding directly to the question at hand, which was assuming a W.
quote:
How much more "exposure" could UGA have?
ESPN vs Pay-per-view. More exposure. Exposure is always good when you win.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 1:02 pm to UGAalum08
quote:
The question asked was "what advantages do a UNC win have over a GA Southern win"
Well, I think a more appropriate question would be "playing UNC vs playing southern". I mean c'mon, obviously if a win is already implied in the question, we should schedule the #1 team in the country. That's not real life though.
quote:
What I know for a fact would hurt would be continuously scheduling cupcakes
We are in a different boat than bama, lsu, tennessee, and many others because we have an in state OOC game already built in. Auburn is playing louisville next year..I"m sure they were praised for scheduling a non-scrub OOC. Guess what, we play a Louisville-equivalent every year.
quote:
The kids like to see if they'd have the opportunity to play marquee matchups out of the conference.
Win the SEC and they'll get to play two top 4 teams in January for a national title. That's not marquee enough?
quote:
The occasional strong OOC matchup does this.
Define strong? I've already said I love the UNC matchup, it's the perfect combination of a name brand school that isn't that great at football. Win/win.
quote:
I was responding directly to the question at hand, which was assuming a W.
Well hell if we're counting it as a win then let's schedule oregon, fsu, and oklahoma as our 3 OOC.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 1:08 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
Well hell if we're counting it as a win then let's schedule oregon, fsu, and oklahoma as our 3 OOC.
It's more realistic to assume a win over UNC than those 3. Believe me, by no means do I think it's a gimme, in fact I'm sure I'll still be worried going into the game come August 2016...but you gotta agree UNC and Oregon/FSU/OU are on 2 very different levels. It would be reasonable to see us favored 7 over UNC but OU/FSU/Oregon favored by 3 over us. Big difference.
I hate huge openers and UNC is about as big as I'd want to see. I do like to see the occasional strong OOC matchup. Clemson and ND are good examples, but I'd still rather not play them as openers.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 1:12 pm to UGAalum08
More respect from other fan bases? You really listed that as something you desire? I can agree with most of your other reasons but....damn, that one is embarrassing.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 1:28 pm to Dick Leverage
quote:
More respect from other fan bases? You really listed that as something you desire?
"desire" might be a stretch. Of everything there, I definitely care about it least. Doesn't mean it isn't a pro though. When some B1G or ACC tard is screaming in my face about their W's, it'd be nice to remind them that we drug one of the conference mates through the mud.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 1:46 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
1) If you win maybe. What if you lose? Playing a cupcake is a guaranteed win
Tell that to Michigan, Alabama and Florida, who lost to, I think, App. St., Louisiana Tech and Ga. Southern.
There are NO guaranteed wins! While I don't want to open with a top 10 opponent every year, I do like playing a name team versus a cupcake.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 1:50 pm to GeorgiaBoy
The day we lose to a 1AA team is the day that I'll worry about starting to play them.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 2:07 pm to UGAalum08
quote:Uh...You may want to look into how much we bring in per game before saying this.
The fact that we have to pay GA Southern to come completely negates home ticket sales
quote:Have they said how much we'll get paid for playing this yet? Link?
Overall, far more revenue flowing through playing UNC.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 2:13 pm to GeorgiaBoy
quote:
Tell that to Michigan, Alabama and Florida, who lost to, I think, App. St., Louisiana Tech and Ga. Southern
Bama lost to LA Monroe in 2006 and not in a fluke way. 21-14 game in which La Monroe stoned most of Bama's 2nd half drives.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 2:22 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
You may want to look into how much we bring in per game before saying this.
Yeah, $45/ticket times 82,000 seats (I'll be extremely kind and say that GSU would get 10K seats, which they absolutely would not) comes out to $3,690,000. That's not even including the money per game breakdown from season ticket contributions as well. And as mentioned we pay GSU $525,000 for the game.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 2:27 pm to WG_Dawg
I'm starting to believe he's saying stupid shite just to mess with us. 
Posted on 2/20/15 at 2:27 pm to Croot
I knew it was one of the Louisiana schools, just couldn't remember which one.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 2:32 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
Uh...You may want to look into how much we bring in per game before saying this.
Per McGarity, we bring in about $2.25 million on average per home game. I assure you this is not thanks to GA Southern type opponents who bring this average way down. I bet (and I don't have numbers to back it up), take home pay after those games is somewhere like $1 million after taking out the half million we pay them to come.
Per Chick-Fil-A kickoff's website, the average payout is $2.5 million, and I'm not even sure this includes the 30k or so tickets UGA is given. WVU and Bama will each get $3.2 million this year for their game in the dome.
LINK
LINK
LINK
Posted on 2/20/15 at 2:46 pm to UGAalum08
Do we bring in or clear that much. WG's numbers say we clear that much.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 2:57 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
quote:
WG's numbers say we clear that much.
What I posted is just what we would bring in, and only from ticket sales. Obviously we have to pay money out as well. I don't have Mcgarity next to me but I mean it's simple math. We know what the face value of a ticket is, we know how many seats it holds, I just did the multiplication.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 3:00 pm to UGAalum08
Let me try to make this simple...
The assumption is the primary goal is to make the playoffs and win the natty. All of this other stuff about recruiting, money, "hype" etc. are all valid ... but I'm talking strictly about making the playoffs.
Given the current environment, if we win all of our SEC games including the SECCG will UGA make the playoffs?
I believe the answer is YES.
Then any game outside of our required SEC schedule has more of a chance of hurting our chances to make the playoffs than helping (given our chance of making them is 100% if we just take care of business in our own conference).
You minimize this risk by playing the easiest OOC possible and focusing on the games you have to play.
The assumption is the primary goal is to make the playoffs and win the natty. All of this other stuff about recruiting, money, "hype" etc. are all valid ... but I'm talking strictly about making the playoffs.
Given the current environment, if we win all of our SEC games including the SECCG will UGA make the playoffs?
I believe the answer is YES.
Then any game outside of our required SEC schedule has more of a chance of hurting our chances to make the playoffs than helping (given our chance of making them is 100% if we just take care of business in our own conference).
You minimize this risk by playing the easiest OOC possible and focusing on the games you have to play.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 3:00 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
My numbers are profit. WG's are ticket revenue. There's more to it than ticket revenue like parking, concessions, and TV deals, but that stuff is peanuts compared to ticket revenue. There's no "contribution per game" like WG stated.
When all is said and done, it looks to me like we profit around $2.5 million for the Chick-Fil-A kickoff and $1 million for a home vs GA Southern. Yeah my numbers might be a little off, but not enough where that GA Southern is even close to UNC in Atlanta. Obviously if both were at home, we'd still bring in way more with UNC. The $2.5 million figure assumes $3 million payout minus half a million for who knows what - travel?
WG assumes all tickets are sold at face, which they aren't. There's students. There's family/staff. Again, I don't have numbers to back this up, but I bet UGA only sells 50,000 or so tickets at face. The rest are students or given away to "privileged".
When all is said and done, it looks to me like we profit around $2.5 million for the Chick-Fil-A kickoff and $1 million for a home vs GA Southern. Yeah my numbers might be a little off, but not enough where that GA Southern is even close to UNC in Atlanta. Obviously if both were at home, we'd still bring in way more with UNC. The $2.5 million figure assumes $3 million payout minus half a million for who knows what - travel?
WG assumes all tickets are sold at face, which they aren't. There's students. There's family/staff. Again, I don't have numbers to back this up, but I bet UGA only sells 50,000 or so tickets at face. The rest are students or given away to "privileged".
Posted on 2/20/15 at 3:01 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
Ticket sales? Playing UNC we'll get what, 30K allotted for the school?
quote:
The school will get 42,921 tickets for the game from Peach Bowl, Inc., ranging in price from $50 for student seats to $205 for a “super suite” ticket. More than 23,000 tickets are priced at $85 on the upper level.
quote:
Georgia will get a $4 million guarantee for playing North Carolina in the Chick-fil-A Kickoff Game in 2016 as well as complimentary hotel accommodations and $50,000 in a scholarship donation back to the university, according to a term sheet for the game obtained from UGA in an open records request.
ticket prices...
.
Page 5 of 7
Latest Georgia News
Popular
Back to top
Follow SECRant for SEC Football News