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Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:21 am to DawgsLife
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It would be a great game to see as a fan
Not me. Yeah it's cool getting to go to new places, but every UGA fan out there is all saying "what the hell did we schedule them for?" if we lose.
If we want to see fun matchups like with FSU/Oregon/OSU and the like...we'll see em in the playoffs. That is the #1 goal, make the playoff. To do that, we have to win as many games as possible. And adding yet ANOTHER tough game, in addition to our SEC gauntlet and tech, does not help achieve that goal.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:25 am to WG_Dawg
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Yeah it's fun to look at the schedule and see a school you recognize, but there simply isn't any justifiable reason to schedule them.
Couldn't be farther from the truth.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:35 am to HinesvilleThrill
There are positives and negatives but the negatives far out way the positives. Imo, at least.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:39 am to HinesvilleThrill
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Couldn't be farther from the truth.
well....??
-IF you win (we're talking a premier opponent like oregon or fsu) you get to jump in polls
-YOu get more money
That's about it. However, as to point 1 there is typically a 50/50 at best chance at winning a game like that, and the consequences of losing are greater than the advantage of winning. Point 2, let's be honest we don't need a few extra thousand. Money should be irrelevant to the conversation.
So let's hear the multitude of reasons it would be beneficial for us to schedule an Oregon instead of a mid-tier (like UNC) or a scrub.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:40 am to Porter Osborne Jr
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There are positives and negatives but the negatives far out way the positives
This. I exagerrate sometimes so yes there may be one or two reasons it'd be good. But as you said, the negatives are far more plentiful.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:41 am to Porter Osborne Jr
Yeah there are pros and cons but to say, "isn't any justifiable reason" is just ignorant.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:47 am to HinesvilleThrill
Key word being "justifiable". There are 'reasons' to do everything. As I said above there are 2 reasons why scheduling a top 5 team would technically make sense.
But when you talk about justifiable, as in...reasons that are so convincing that they overrule the negatives, there are none. There are many more negatives, and many more important negatives.
But when you talk about justifiable, as in...reasons that are so convincing that they overrule the negatives, there are none. There are many more negatives, and many more important negatives.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:48 am to WG_Dawg
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So let's hear the multitude of reasons it would be beneficial for us to schedule an Oregon instead of a mid-tier (like UNC) or a scrub.
I'll admit that I didn't read the whole thread and just saw this comment near the end. I think UNC is the perfect OOC team for 2016. But I do think sprinkling some upper echelon teams every now and then does have a net positive. Playing ND is going to do great things for the Athletic Department and donations will surge to make sure people will be able to get tickets (assuming we stay on an upswing). Playing a say, Michigan, in Dallas gets us recruiting inroads in that state. Lastly, a win in a big OOC game could be crucial in the new playoff system. The thought process has to change post BCS system.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:51 am to RD Dawg
The SEC East kind of has the market cornered:
USCe - Clemson
UF - FSU
UK - Louisville
UGA - GT
More proof, the West is bullshite.
USCe - Clemson
UF - FSU
UK - Louisville
UGA - GT
More proof, the West is bullshite.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 10:58 am to DawgsLife
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Do you think we never play a good OOC Schedule?
Never said that. In fact, in the quote you used from me, I actually said I was looking forward to ND in '17 and '19.
My comment about boredom in no good OOC matchups was targeted to people in this thread who feel that we should not schedule strong OOC opponents given our current SEC and GT rotation. I also said this earlier:
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you again seem to be uninterested in ever playing a quality OOC opponent with our current SEC + GT rotation. It would be a sad state of affairs if our AD agreed with you. Fortunately with Clemson and ND as evidence, they don't.
I actually do think we do a pretty good job scheduling OOC matchups as well. UNC isn't a great one but it's not awful. The location is a nice change of pace. There are people here who flat out do not want to schedule strong OOC opponents.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 11:08 am to HinesvilleThrill
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I think UNC is the perfect OOC team for 2016
I think UNC-like teams are excellent as well. I said near the top of the thread I love this matchup.
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I do think sprinkling some upper echelon teams every now and then does have a net positive.
we'll just have to disagree, because I don't. When was the last time we went undefeated in the SEC? It was 1982. That's a long fricking time. In addition to the fact that our SEC schedule (if the last 30+ years of data tells us anything) is likely not going to be gotten through unscathed, we already have a better than average OOC game built in, plus a potential SECCG against a likely top 7ish team, plus a playoff against a top 4 team, plus the championship against against another top 4 team. To add another top 5/10 team in our opener is insanity.
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Playing ND is going to do great things
ND isn't a top 5 team. They're a better UNC with an all-timer of a name.
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Playing a say, Michigan, in Dallas gets us recruiting inroads in that state
speculation. You dont' know if it will or won't. It's not like we don't already recruit texas either. And what if we lose by 3 touchdowns in that game? That would actually hurt the hell out of our recruiting there one would assume.
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Lastly, a win in a big OOC game could be crucial in the new playoff system.
Maybe, maybe not. The whole point is to make the playoffs by being a top 4 team. Our chances to do that improve exponentially by playign an average P5 team (like UNC) or a scub like Buffalo as opposed to oregon.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 11:22 am to Dawgsontop34
I'm cool with this matchup as long as we don't break out the Power Ranger unis again.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 11:38 am to FooManChoo
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as long as we don't break out the Power Ranger unis again.
After the backlash from 2011, I would be astounded if anyone in BM even considered for one second doing that again.
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:12 pm to WG_Dawg
This really a simple concept and I agree with you 100%.
If you take recruiting, bragging rights and the fun factor out of it, there is absolutely no reason to play any tough OOC games which could jeopardize your chance at the playoffs. Or, at least while the SEC Champ is almost a guaranteed spot in the playoff (unless they have 2 conference losses... which case the OOC game is irrelevant).
The only reason that I see for a challenging OOC is to boost your rankings if winning your conference by itself isn't enough to get you into the top 4.
Question to the masses...if UGA wins the SEC East and then the SECCG...what difference will it make if we also have a win over UNC vs. a win over, say, Ga. Southern?
If you take recruiting, bragging rights and the fun factor out of it, there is absolutely no reason to play any tough OOC games which could jeopardize your chance at the playoffs. Or, at least while the SEC Champ is almost a guaranteed spot in the playoff (unless they have 2 conference losses... which case the OOC game is irrelevant).
The only reason that I see for a challenging OOC is to boost your rankings if winning your conference by itself isn't enough to get you into the top 4.
Question to the masses...if UGA wins the SEC East and then the SECCG...what difference will it make if we also have a win over UNC vs. a win over, say, Ga. Southern?
This post was edited on 2/20/15 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:18 pm to SquatchDawg
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what difference will it make if we also have a win over UNC vs. a win over, say, Ga. Southern?
Money (more ticket sales & do not have to pay cupcake $1mil for a W), recruiting, quality matchups are way more interesting to watch than cupcakes, higher final ranking, stronger SOS, more respect from other fan bases, exposure, better TV network (national vs Pay-per-view). Need I go on?
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:34 pm to UGAalum08
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Money
Okay...we will make more from a Chickfila Kickoff. What if they beat us and we don't make the playoffs because of this?
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recruiting
A win over UNC vs. a nobody won't matter if we win the SECCG. That'll be long forgotten...
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quality matchups are way more interesting
I said take the "fun factor" out of it..
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higher final ranking, stronger SOS, more respect from other fan bases, exposure, better TV network (national vs Pay-per-view).
Again...if we win the SECCG a long past win over UNC will have no impact on any of these. Even recruiting (which I also said to set aside). I don't see the SEC Champion being shunned because we beat a cupcake in week 1....if we then go on to beat FL, AU, AL, etc.
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Need I go on?
Certainly
This post was edited on 2/20/15 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:36 pm to UGAalum08
SOS is also supposed to be one of the criteria used in selecting the final four.
A big 5 victory looks much better than mid-major victory (for the most part)
A big 5 victory looks much better than mid-major victory (for the most part)
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:38 pm to RD Dawg
Again...I said if we WIN THE SECCG. If not, its all a moot point.
Do you think that 1st Week win against UNC will really have a significant SOS impact if just swept the East and beat AL in the SECCG?
Do you think that 1st Week win against UNC will really have a significant SOS impact if just swept the East and beat AL in the SECCG?
Posted on 2/20/15 at 12:42 pm to SquatchDawg
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What if they beat us
Your scenario was:
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what difference will it make if we also have a win over UNC vs. a win over, say, Ga. Southern?
on recruiting:
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A win over UNC vs. a nobody won't matter
This is so incredibly wrong. Marquee games are gold for recruits.
On "higher final ranking, stronger SOS, more respect from other fan bases, exposure, better TV network (national vs Pay-per-view)."
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if we win the SECCG a long past win over UNC will have no impact on any of these. I don't see the SEC Champion being shunned because we played a cupcake in week 1
- SOS: UNC vs GA Southern. SOS is better, period. Cannot be disputed.
- Higher final ranking: If team A and B have identical pre-season rankings, identical schedules and identical W-L with identical margins, a win over UNC vs GA Southern places them higher in the final rankings, period. Cannot be disputed.
- More respect from other fan bases: Really? Have you never seen anybody make fun of a team for continuously playing cupcakes? Never done that yourself?
- Exposure: Tell me how a game on ESPN does not get us better exposure than a game on Pay-per view
on: Need I go on?
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Certainly
No.
This post was edited on 2/20/15 at 12:43 pm
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