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re: Take on G-Day game

Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:50 pm to
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6944 posts
Posted on 4/19/21 at 10:50 pm to
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But he does get the superstar talk often. It isn't warranted.


Cook averaged 6.73 ypc rushing in 2020 and 14.06 receiving. He only played in eight games due to injury and still had 528 total yards.
Imagine him playing in 12 season games and 2 or 3 playoff games (including the SECCG). He could easily have a 1000 total yards season.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 4:59 am to
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If I were Lew Dawg I would ban Red Five.


But you’re not. Cry harder bitch.
Posted by gulfportdawg
Gulfport, Ms.
Member since Sep 2012
729 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:34 am to
It's a controlled scrimmage. There's no take away for me. My concerns are still the OL on offense (especially left tackle), the DB's on defense and injuries. As of today, I would think that until UGA beats Clemson, they will be the under dog.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8431 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 7:54 am to
Thanks for your "no take" on a "take" thread. SMH
Posted by gulfportdawg
Gulfport, Ms.
Member since Sep 2012
729 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 8:34 am to
Can you honestly say UGA is going to be all world after watching the spring game? If you don't think there is much to work on, I question your reasoning. I stand by my post. Opening with Clemson is a high risk, high reward game. Everyone knows that.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:18 am to
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when are we gonna stop talking about cook like he's a super star?


On here?

He was getting shite on in this place on regular basis up til this season. Myself and another poster were the only folks defending em.

2020 was the first time he was fully healthy and we also had a OC that knew how to use em

Wouldn't call em a "superstar" but he'll play on Sundays and there's no doubt he was missed big time in our bowl game.Dont think the game is close if he plays.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:26 am to
He definitely looked better last season than the ones prior. I thought his balance and ability to make defenders miss improved last season. He wasn't a "super star" in our backfield but he got the job done. He should be really good in our passing game, too, as it evolves this season.
This post was edited on 4/20/21 at 10:27 am
Posted by Lucius Clay
Member since Sep 2012
3420 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 10:50 am to
A few thoughts...

Stating the obvious: With McIntosh back in fall, this team has a punishing set of running backs. Milton, White, McIntosh, Edwards, Cook... Might as well keep Carroll at CB for now and see what comes of it. He's definitely not needed at RB at this point.

There's no rationalizing away the loss of Pickens but I do think it's going to be mitigated by: 1) The insane TE trio of Washington, Fitzpatrick, and Bowers. Bowers seems as close to being a WR as a TE can be. 2) Adonai Mitchell - yes, he'll be a force by the time we get into the season with all the reps he's gotten. Nice size and speed. 3) Justin Robinson - I know he was held out as a precaution but he looked great all spring and seems to have put it together. Another big receiver who can win at the point. 4) Return of Rosemy and Burton - both showed what they could do at times in 2020.

I know our DL is pretty awesome but the OL still looked like a work in progress. Not too worried as it was still spring experimentation to an extent. I think Ratledge has more upside than Shaffer and may take over that job during the season.

On the topic of the DL, up and coming: Stackhouse, Mitchell, and Logue. We've got some serious depth at DL.

I know Jordan Davis is huge and he looked huge. But maybe a little too huge? I remember reading that he is supposed to have an ideal playing weight around 325 but he looks like he's 350 or 360. I don't know...what makes him special is his mobility for someone so massive but if he's that big, it's like having a giant plug-up-the-middle nose guard.

Regarding Beck: Okay, did I miss something as far as all the post-scrimmage hype? I mean, he looked better but still saw a bunch of outright misses on his throws. The media keeps talking about how impressive he was. Maybe I'm not enough of an expert to notice the subtleties but how was he so amazing?

Not related to talent but what is up with Vandagriff's outlaw biker hair? Then again, maybe a sign of swagger?

I think Kimber and Ringo will be good CBs. Maybe they'll be All SEC CB's in 2023. But it was impossible to not see the drop from a set of high-pick NFL prospects. With 2 open slots under 85, please tell me that Kirby is scanning the transfer portal or putting out feelers. Surely there's an All American at some program a tier below UGA who wants to finish his career with a championship possibility?

Not much to say about linebacking. Yeah, Monty Rice is gone but I see no drop off. If anything, I think the inside and outside linebacking will be equal or better.
Posted by claydawg09
Covington
Member since Sep 2013
1806 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:16 am to
I think with Davis you have to give him a break on 2 accounts. One it’s spring so he may not be walking around where he plays and will be a bit more trim by the season. Second he’s one of the few on this current team that has proven themself enough to be a high draft pick in 2022. It really is a luxury he came back. So I’m sure he’s not worried about busting his arse in the spring game.

I agree about Beck. Looked ok. Nothing special. I would guess by the time BVG has grasped the playbook and had more reps he’ll overtake him.

Offensive line wise I liked Ratledges size and athleticism over Schaffer but he’s clearly lacking the experience. Gonna be hard to supplant a guy who’s been starting 2+years.

The one that stood out was Mims. Black team LT. He looks like a 30 yr old in the NFL. If we were starting the season against the sisters of the poor for 2-3 games I may say by that time he’d be ready to trial by fire it as the starting LT but against Clemson idk.

For some reason I think the secondary will be ok. I guess I just trust Kirby and Lanning to figure out the defense enough that if our offense isn’t stuck in the stone ages like 2019 or 2020 pre-Daniels then we’ll be ok.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:41 am to
Cook is one of the more versatile athletes in the country coming out the backfield. He will be a big part of Monken's offense. He reminds me of a lighter Alvin Kamara.


Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 11:45 am to
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I know Jordan Davis is huge and he looked huge. But maybe a little too huge? I remember reading that he is supposed to have an ideal playing weight around 325 but he looks like he's 350 or 360. I don't know...what makes him special is his mobility for someone so massive but if he's that big, it's like having a giant plug-up-the-middle nose guard.

Davis has had the issue of gaining weight during the offseason since he's been here. He has always worked hard during spring and fall training to get in shape.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41669 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:26 pm to
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Regarding Beck: Okay, did I miss something as far as all the post-scrimmage hype? I mean, he looked better but still saw a bunch of outright misses on his throws. The media keeps talking about how impressive he was. Maybe I'm not enough of an expert to notice the subtleties but how was he so amazing
I think the hype was in relation to the search for the backup. Beck actually played pretty well overall and looked mostly polished out there. He threw for 230+ yards and had a couple of TDs and had the best stat line of the potential backups. The comments I've heard/read were mostly in relation to Beck being in good shape if Daniels goes down rather than competing for the starting job, so I interpret the hype within that context.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:31 pm to
JT Daniels is going to be a first round pick. He's more mobile than I expected and his game resembles Justin Herbert.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44830 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:42 pm to
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JT Daniels is going to be a first round pick. He's more mobile than I expected and his game resembles Justin Herbert.


Herbert is flat out fast though. Daniels can't run like that.

If you're looking for a big, strong QB with a rocket launcher for an arm and underrated mobility, Joe Flacco is the best comparison I can think of.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 1:58 pm to
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JT Daniels is going to be a first round pick. He's more mobile than I expected and his game resembles Justin Herbert.


Does that mean you think he's a legitimate Heisman candidate?
Posted by Kimsey
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2013
1318 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 2:16 pm to
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I think with Davis you have to give him a break on 2 accounts. One it’s spring so he may not be walking around where he plays and will be a bit more trim by the season. Second he’s one of the few on this current team that has proven themself enough to be a high draft pick in 2022. It really is a luxury he came back. So I’m sure he’s not worried about busting his arse in the spring game.

I agree about Beck. Looked ok. Nothing special. I would guess by the time BVG has grasped the playbook and had more reps he’ll overtake him.

Offensive line wise I liked Ratledges size and athleticism over Schaffer but he’s clearly lacking the experience. Gonna be hard to supplant a guy who’s been starting 2+years.

The one that stood out was Mims. Black team LT. He looks like a 30 yr old in the NFL. If we were starting the season against the sisters of the poor for 2-3 games I may say by that time he’d be ready to trial by fire it as the starting LT but against Clemson idk.

For some reason I think the secondary will be ok. I guess I just trust Kirby and Lanning to figure out the defense enough that if our offense isn’t stuck in the stone ages like 2019 or 2020 pre-Daniels then we’ll be ok.


I agree about Beck, he looks okay nothing stand out-ish. BVG is essentially a suped up version of Murray. Bigger, faster, stronger arm etc. His mental makeup is what will determine how high his ceiling is, but yeah he usurps Beck sometime during the season.

General thought about Cook, there should be no debate about his standing in the depth chart. Teams openly gameplan against him. He makes the wr corps better by more eyes on him.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 4/20/21 at 3:01 pm to
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Does that mean you think he's a legitimate Heisman candidate?

I don't think we'll air it out enough for him to get the stats needed to be a Heisman finalist, but he has the tools.

He even has the slight bit of social awkwardness that Herbert has.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 4/21/21 at 11:33 pm to
quote:

I'm just hoping that every 1st down play isn't a run up the middle.


Why mess with a winningish tradition?
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
13233 posts
Posted on 4/22/21 at 7:54 am to
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If you're looking for a big, strong QB with a rocket launcher for an arm


I need to see more. Maybe he does have a good arm but there hasn’t been enough games to determine that. He also wasn’t healthy so we’ll see.

Edit: Justin Herbert lol? Not like no like not a chance in fricking hell no

Maybe Tannehill... but Herbert is a giant leap. Herbert and Lawrence are clones.

And I know you didn’t say he was Justin Herbert VA... just responding.
This post was edited on 4/22/21 at 7:55 am
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8431 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 10:13 am to
Who said they were all world? I said compared to themselves in years past this is the best team in the last 20 spring games watched.

And who cares if you open with a high risk game. That has no correlation with talent on a team.

I question your ability to reason in a debate. Smh
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