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re: No QB battle updates after a few practices in full pads?

Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:25 pm to
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7002 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 8:25 pm to
The three most important attributes for a QB are ball security, accuracy and decision making. Hutson Mason excelled in all three of those areas. I already miss Hutson.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:01 pm to
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There is no advantage to keeping Eason completely out of action next year. How much Jacob plays depends on his relative performance. I hope he lights up scoreboards like a Christmas tree.


This is what scares me about the whole thing. Say our QB situation is a cluster frick this year. Brice never gets his head in it, Lambert acts more like Hoo, and Bauta proves to be one dimensional. And we then go with Eason in 2016. What I don't like about that is we waste the next 2 years of Chubb and Carter. Not waste but we don't fully utilize two of the most talented freshman in a while. It'd be par for the course but it'd kill me to see Chubb have to run with 3 or more QBs in his tenure.
Posted by JimDawginTexas
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20336 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:27 pm to
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The three most important attributes for a QB are ball security, accuracy and decision making. Hutson Mason excelled in all three of those areas. I already miss Hutson.

Yet none of our quarterbacks have shown enough to say they don't have all of those attributes and more. It's hard for Ramsey to prove himself when he hasn't taken one meaningful snap in 2015 yet and you are already riding him .
Posted by dhuck20
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Member since Oct 2012
20336 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:30 pm to
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This is what scares me about the whole thing. Say our QB situation is a cluster frick this year. Brice never gets his head in it, Lambert acts more like Hoo, and Bauta proves to be one dimensional. And we then go with Eason in 2016. What I don't like about that is we waste the next 2 years of Chubb and Carter. Not waste but we don't fully utilize two of the most talented freshman in a while. It'd be par for the course but it'd kill me to see Chubb have to run with 3 or more QBs in his tenure.
Or

shudder

We have all the pieces in line for 2016 and have a legitimate shot at a NC and Spurrier retires and SC's first call is Pruitt....
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7899 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:45 pm to
I never really considered the possibility that our QB play could be worse than last year. Now I'm depressed.
Posted by dhuck20
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/10/15 at 9:52 pm to
I see it more as high risk/high reward vs. Low risk/low reward.

Hutson was certainly the latter... he never lost us games and he never won us games.
This post was edited on 8/10/15 at 9:53 pm
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:22 pm to
well he won us the tech game but...
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:32 pm to
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I never really considered the possibility that our QB play could be worse than last year. Now I'm depressed.


How quickly we forget the Joes. Tereshinski and Cox hold a special place in Bulldog hearts everywhere.
Posted by GDawg1
Member since Mar 2014
935 posts
Posted on 8/10/15 at 10:47 pm to
Love those Joes
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 5:17 am to
Joe Cox did a lot considering his Oline and the play of his defense. Switch him with the Bama QB and he is in the running for Heisman...
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 6:45 am to
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QB play would be worse than last year


21 TD'S,4 PICS,67% COMP PCT and QB Rating of 155.7 (2nd in SEC)

You really need to start paying attn a little more.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 6:49 am to
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Joe Cox did a lot considering his Oline and the play of his defense. Switch him with the Bama QB and he is in the running for Heisman...


Dude was a turnover machine. He was better than we give him credit for, at least better than Joe T (who isn't) but he's still the worst QB of the Richt era besides Corey Phillips and Joe T.
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21 TD'S,4 PICS,67% COMP PCT and QB Rating of 155.7 (2nd in SEC)

You really need to start paying attn a little more.

He was efficient in terms of turnvoers, yea. He was good at not hurting Georgia. But his inability to make anything happen beyond 9 yards was a pretty damn big liability in it's own right. He isn't the worst QB Georgia has had under Richt but he is definitely hanging out with Joe T and Joe Cox at the bar.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:13 am to
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Hanging out at the bar with Joe T


Not even close...Mason did what was asked of him and
the threat of our passing was enough to open up our running game. Joe T?Have you ever looked at his numbers?Productivity?Have no idea how the guy was even a top prospect in HS...guess his name carries a little weight.

Lets see how everything pans out next year but theres no doubt he'll be missed.
Posted by bulldawger
Fish Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2010
2883 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 7:48 am to
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What I don't like about that is we waste the next 2 years of Chubb and Carter. Not waste but we don't fully utilize two of the most talented freshman in a while. It'd be par for the course but it'd kill me to see Chubb have to run with 3 or more QBs in his tenure.


And this my friends, is Richts career in a nut shell.

The inability to build an "entire" team for multiple years in a row is my only complaint against Richt.

One year it's QB issues, next year we don't have an offensive line, the next year the defense is learning a new scheme, the next year we have no DBs. It seems as though every year, save 2002 & 2005, that there have been major talent holes somewhere on the team that has prevented some otherwise really good teams from reaching their potential.

Having said all of that,

I feel like recruiting has taken a major turn in emphasis on creating the entire team. Is it the Pruitt influence?
I have no doubt that it is.

I feel like this year we have excellent numbers across the board. The only problem is how quickly the new and/or inexperienced QBs and DLs contribute quality minutes.

This could be an excellent year, but I'm already betting on next year.
Posted by FinleyStreet
Member since Aug 2011
7899 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 8:34 am to
Apples and oranges. Yes, Mason did what was asked but he was lucky to even get the opportunity to start. My point is, if we have a highly recruited kid like Brice, and he can't even measure up to Mason (who wasn't highly recruited) then well...that sucks.

I don't know about the rest of y'all, but I have higher expectations for brice than for hutson. So yes, I will be disappointed if he isn't better than Hutson.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20336 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 8:59 am to
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Not even close...Mason did what was asked of him
Of course, but Richt knew our offense was limited with him. He was what he was, a highly effecient guy but with him we had no downfield threat at all. If the right QB was in place we have had a very good passing game. It wasn't the case last year. 90th in country to be exact.
This post was edited on 8/11/15 at 9:00 am
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 9:22 am to
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Dude was a turnover machine. He was better than we give him credit for, at least better than Joe T (who isn't) but he's still the worst QB of the Richt era besides Corey Phillips and Joe T.



Again, he was a turnover machine because he was playing from behind and was put in a lot of 2nd and 3rd and long situations.

If he had a strong Oline and only needed to pass the ball 20 times and score 20 points, he would have been in Heisman contention.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
4370 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 9:40 am to
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If he had a strong Oline and only needed to pass the ball 20 times and score 20 points, he would have been in Heisman contention.


Would he have been averaging 15 YPA on those throws. No non-mobile quarterback who throws 20 times a game will ever win the Heisman in today's game. You can take that to the bank.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 8/11/15 at 12:07 pm to
Bama went 14-0 in Cox's Sr season. Their QB had a very similar completion % , less TDs and less ints. He was a Heisman contender.

He also had the Heisman RB, like 3 of them, and a defense that only allowed one SEC team to score more than 20 points.


Compare those stats and ask yourself if Cox would have had to make the same throws at Bama with that line and defense. Pretty much always playing ahead and second and third and short.

I don't think Cox was a Heisman QB. I think he was smart enough and good enough to manage a game. I think McElroy was better, but if he was on the 2009 UGA team, he would be spoken of in the same conversations as cox...
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