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Posted on 9/3/20 at 4:10 pm to
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41643 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 4:10 pm to
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So pro sports went political. The NBA is a joke. Viewership is way, way down. The NFL plays to empty stadiums. MLB is down. This trend continues to increase.

Can you not see a similar trend penetrating college sports? Does anyone think this is going to help college sports?
It's terrible for all entertainment. It was just as bad for the award shows that everyone made it political.

People watch these things to be entertained and diverted from reality, not to be shamed, embarrassed, or to "get woke" because we are otherwise bad people.

I reject the entire premise of wokeness.
Posted by HinesvilleThrill
Skidaway Island
Member since Sep 2012
3475 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 4:16 pm to
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And after 50 years it comes to an end. As


So you started your love affair when there was plenty of racist whites on the team and coaching staff?
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:13 pm to
If you can’t in good conscious watch the games I can’t talk you out of it. But let’s be honest, if you’ve been watching football for this long you’ve tolerated a lot of things worse than BLM.

UGA has a better track record than a lot of teams on this stuff but there is no doubt over the years you’ve rooted for people who have been violent toward women, driven drunk repeatedly, cheated academically etc.

Seems like you’re putting politics on too much of a pedestal if you tolerated all the other stuff but are just now not ok with the behavior of college athletes.

Either way, I’ll still be getting fired up for America’s oldest state school playing ball in America’s finest college town. How sweet it is!

Like the other guy said, later gator
Posted by retooc
Freeport, FL
Member since Sep 2012
7437 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 5:38 pm to
Mad Dawg said it all.

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That's what used to be so great about this country... we used to be a place where you could have a different opinion from someone else but still have respect for them.

For better or worse, the UGA football program and the institution itself will be around much longer than anyone currently involved in it.

If you want to make a stand and give up permanently on a program that has a temporary problem then more power to you, but the University of Georgia will remain bigger than any individual or group of individuals who are currently acting on its behalf.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:09 pm to
These folks aren't mad about the school supporting player protests or the greater movement. They're mad because they can see the country changing and they'd rather opt out than evolve.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14158 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:11 pm to
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am in no position to know what its like to be black in America


Let me give you a hint. If you commit crimes and resist arrest it feels exactly the same regardless of whether you are white or black. The statistics prove this out.

The whole BLM movement is based on lies that black unarmed men are shot by police disproportionately to white men. That’s not true. And at its core, supports principles that are racist, anti American and at worst outright Marxist. It’s all there for anyone that spends 30 mins actually looking into it.

These are the facts I was referring to when I said they probably don’t understand what they’re supporting but rather believe a false narrative....as do you apparently. But that’s not unexpected, this is a very popular and fashionable movement so a lot of people are jumping on board to virtue signal to the world.

That’s fine....free country.
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 6:39 pm
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2281 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:36 pm to
54 years here. They want to support those who will burn our flag and cities. It seemed appropriate to burn everything I owned with a G on it today which I did. I'm done with UGA and everything they stand for. It was a long time coming, but this was the last straw. I only hope I live long enough to watch them reap what they have sown.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30541 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:39 pm to


Your Marxists buddies aren’t changing anything. But whatever helps you sleep at night I guess
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14158 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 6:43 pm to
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they'd rather opt out than kneel


FIFY
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44690 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 7:22 pm to
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you’ve tolerated a lot of things worse than BLM.


There aren't many things worse to root for than a Marxist organization who puts pieces of shite like Jacob Blake on a pedestal.
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
1542 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 7:41 pm to
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There aren't many things worse to root for than a Marxist organization who puts pieces of shite like Jacob Blake on a pedestal.


A college student who gets worked up and potentially manipulated by an organization like BLM (which I’m not fond of) isn’t anywhere near as bad a college student who is violent with women.

If the picture of them on north campus was so triggering to snowflakes that they can never watch football again that’s fine. But if that’s the case you have to admit it’s absurd that the snowflake was ok with everything else college football players have been guilty of over the years.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49226 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 7:46 pm to
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The NBA is a joke.

NBA has a very large black majority why wouldn't they address BLM
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Viewership is way, way down.

Well that's false
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The NFL plays to empty stadiums.

Again false
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MLB is down

MLB's downwrad trend has more to do with a super long season, cord cutting, end of steroid era, and the rise of the NBA and MLS
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Can you not see a similar trend penetrating college sports?

I mean streaming will certainly hurt it and as watching home becomes enticing with ticket prices and home theaters there maybe a drop but it's not the end like you like to think it'll be
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Does anyone think this is going to help college sports?

Considering the a majority of the recuits are pro BLM and pro police reform yes sorry if they're not pandering to the angry Trump voting boomer
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49226 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 7:50 pm to
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Marxists buddies

Yall really don't understand what that word means do yall? Just a term you can throw out in lieu of any actual subsentive argument.

The average person marching or protesting isn't some evil commie that wants to destroy America. Just normal people that want change in a broken system that intentional or not disproportionately hurts black people.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25537 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:02 pm to
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change in a broken system that intentional or not disproportionately hurts black people.


Disproportionately?
Posted by DawgHolliday
the 'cloven-land', ga
Member since Sep 2012
4979 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:24 pm to
No one seems interested in looking at the actual numbers. Most of you folks claiming the whole “disproportionately affected” notion would do well to listen to Coleman Hughes, Glen Louwry or John McWhorter. They are all 3 black men and I think they are all 3 Democrats...but they all say the problems are socio-economical, not racial in nature.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49226 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:41 pm to
I'm not saying they're racial in nature in the way the media portrays it but it certainly can seem that way given how many minorities are in lower income urban areas. People seem to focus way too much on if there is or isn't systemtic racism instead of focusing on how to end it if it does exist.

Ending the war on drugs, reforming the police such as higher standards when it comes to hiring and wages for cops, making it to where if a cop with a checkered past applies to another district his record of misconduct is easily available, demilitarisation of the force, ending private prisons, relasing non violent drug offenders, and legalizing marijuana would help tremendously
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44690 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 8:46 pm to
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I'm not saying they're racial in nature in the way the media portrays it but it certainly can seem that way given how many minorities are in lower income urban areas. People seem to focus way too much on if there is or isn't systemtic racism instead of focusing on how to end it if it does exist.

Ending the war on drugs, reforming the police such as higher standards when it comes to hiring and wages for cops, making it to where if a cop with a checkered past applies to another district his record of misconduct is easily available, demilitarisation of the force, ending private prisons, relasing non violent drug offenders, and legalizing marijuana would help tremendously


None of that will work if that culture doesn't want to fix their problems from within.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14158 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:05 pm to
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Ending the war on drugs, reforming the police such as higher standards when it comes to hiring and wages for cops, making it to where if a cop with a checkered past applies to another district his record of misconduct is easily available, demilitarisation of the force, ending private prisons, relasing non violent drug offenders, and legalizing marijuana would help tremendously


I agree with a lot of what you’re saying and appreciate your rational approach to this.

The other side of this though lies in the community recognizing they need to stop creating a hostile and dangerous environment for police and look at the societal problems that exist in these communities which promote violence and resistance to traditional family structure, obeying the law, obtaining an education, staying way from drug abuse and other factors that have led to this downward spiral.

This is the side that is never mentioned.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41643 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:13 pm to
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The average person marching or protesting isn't some evil commie that wants to destroy America. Just normal people that want change in a broken system that intentional or not disproportionately hurts black people.
The term “useful idiots” comes to mind.

Those who seek change without understanding the problem usually wind up making everything worse, as we are seeing today with riots and cancel culture that are breaking more bonds than they are making.
This post was edited on 9/3/20 at 9:15 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49226 posts
Posted on 9/3/20 at 9:37 pm to
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Those who seek change without understanding the problem usually wind up making everything worse, as we are seeing today with riots and cancel culture that are breaking more bonds than they are making.

You have a point but I think simply dismissing an entire movement as Marxist or evil is just ignorance. What BLM needs is an actual leader instead you have a bunch of vocal minorities shouting different things.

In some parts you have the ACAB people, the anarchists, and yes some communists. However you also have BLM people calling for police reform and other related things. I think BLM has overall good intentions despite some people in the group but I think they're starting to lose focus on how to solve the problem
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look at the societal problems that exist in these communities which promote violence and resistance to traditional family structure, obeying the law, obtaining an education, staying way from drug abuse and other factors that have led to this downward spiral.

There is certainly a culture change that needs to happen although you could same the same for trailer parks or any low income areas.

I think ending the WOD on legalizing marijuana would certainly help. Cutting off the supply of money for the dealers and of course drug lords would help significantly.

With gang violence that all stems from people feeling unsafe and joining a gang because it gives them a feeling of safety. Trying to clean up the areas is a momunteal task for sure but if you can make people in those areas feel safer as well as cut down on pretty much all dryg trade you'd deal a blow to gang culture.

As for the cops vs blacks perception, it's going to be a long road to recovery. You still have blacks that lived through the 60s and 70s passing down their hatred and those pass down their hatred to their kids and so on. This isn't a problem that can fix itself in 10 years it'stake far longer unfortunately.
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