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We're all part of a huge clinical trial. People that get vaccinated are the experiment group. Those that do not are the control group. Let's see how it works out ... whose limbs start falling off first.

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Epidemiologists say that herd immunity is achieved around 75%. Mutations occur on transmission, and I really don’t want to have the government shut shite down again if a more virulent and resistant strain develops. Please get the vaccine, folks.

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I am not sure why people are not paying attention. A variant strain has already popped up. Not only that, if every person in the US could get vaccinated and if the rest of the world is not, that strain that is not covered by the vaccine would still travel across the world and come here anyway. (Read the linked article and it says the variant is already here) The current vaccine does not prevent the new variant...further the vaccines apparently are causing Myocarditis and Pericarditis.....Myocarditis was the reasoning used by the BIG 10 to shut down their football season originally. The thought was that Covid might cause Myocarditis in young athletes, therefore it was too dangerous for the BIG 10 to play their season. How ironic that they now believe that the vaccine causes Myocarditis after telling everybody they should/must take the vaccine.

More Than 20% Of New COVID Cases In The U.S. Can Be Traced To The Delta Variant

I am not saying people should or should not get vaccinated. That is a matter of personal choice. I will say I believe the shutdown was due to politicians playing politics. The left shut down everything and kept it locked down in spite of the fact that infection rates were almost identical to states that opened things up. The left wanted to hurt Trump and it backfired.

Amazing that the left wants personal choice in so many aspects of our lives yet want to control our health, eating habits and so many other aspects of our lives.

Typical vaccine trials are 5 years. This was, what, 3 months. Also, prior MRNA vaccine trials in animals caused a lot of problems, even death through Kytocline (sp?) storms. I assume the scientists/ doctors learned a lot through those trials and hopefully those lessons have been applied here.

But to say the science is settled and that the vaccines are without risk is naive. Healthy people have already died from the Myocarditis and others have significant health problems they might have to live with for the rest of their lives. And those are just the short term side effects that have been noticed. Long term? Who knows.

People have to decide ... is the chance of a side effect from the vaccine worth protection from the virus. That is a personal decision that should be respected. Period. Full stop.

Who could downvote that post?

Hence the approx 95% effectiveness. The vaccine doesn’t make you invincible. It is 95% effective against getting the virus but more effective against getting a serious case.

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Hence the approx 95% effectiveness. The vaccine doesn’t make you invincible. It is 95% effective against getting the virus but more effective against getting a serious case.

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How many players on a baseball team? How many NC State players still got the virus? Does it sound like it is 95% effective?

Fauci has admitted he lied to the American people once because "I did it for their own good."

Then e-mails were revealed how he mislead and helped cover up the origins of the virus. Does it sound like we are getting the truth from those who are leading the "fight" against Corona?

Washington Examiner

So no, the evidence did not change, but don't take my word for it. Instead, listen to none other than Fauci, who conceded that he willfully lied to the public to prevent shortages of masks for healthcare workers.

"We were concerned, the public health community and many people were saying this, were concerned that it was at a time when personal protective equipment, including the N95 masks and the surgical masks, were in very short supply," Fauci said in June of last year. "And we wanted to make sure that the people, namely, the healthcare workers, who were brave enough to put themselves in a harm way, to take care of people who, you know, were infected with the coronavirus and the danger of them getting infected."

And make no mistake about it....this wasn't the last time we were lied to about Coronavirus by Fauci. His e-mails proved that.

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That was the NCAA trying to punish NC State because NC State had unvaccinated players.

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Bullcrap. NC State admitted they had several players in protocol.
You guys have to quit listening to "news" on the Rant.

Sports Illustrated
NC State announced Tuesday that eight of its players tested positive for the Delta variant of COVID-19.

The university reported that an unspecified numbers of those who tested positive were previously vaccinated.

"We understand the results. Believe me. There’s no questioning the results,” NC State chancellor Randy Woodson said Tuesday. “We understand the gravity of eight players testing positive and the fact that this was the Delta variant, which is super contagious and is quickly emerging in the country as potentially another wave of infection. So we understand. That’s of concern.”

They were infected by the variant. No amount of vaccination would have prevented that.

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My doctor has strongly advised me not to get the vaccine. He told me that since I had KungFlu earlier this year, I have natural antibodies that should last for a year. He also said that something he and his colleagues have noticed is that people who already had KungFlu and then get the vaccine tend to have much stronger adverse reactions to the vaccine.

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My doctor advised me not to get it because he said they had not had enough time to test it properly.
Gee. Now they are finding that the vacine itself might be causing Myocarditis. Imagine that.

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So no, I'm not getting it and posters like baconwaffle can go frick themselves. My body, my choice. Right?

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I agree with you 100%. It should be up to the individual.

Here's the 77 page PDF from the UK gov.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/993879/Variants_of_Concern_VOC_Technical_Briefing_15.pdf


Here's a screenshot of a table from the pdf-




Looking at the top line-


33,206 total "Delta" cases.

Only 1785 of those were from fully vaxxed people.

Only ~7500 were from partially vaxxed people.

19573 were from unvaxxed people.

The leftover difference of 4289 I assume is they couldn't determine the vax status. Meaning they probably weren't vaxxed or they'd be in the data base.


The data seem to show the vaccine works against Delta. Maybe not 100%, but a hell of a lot better than no vaccine.

And you know this because you spent a lifetime in virology or listened to an eight minute segment about it on Morning Edition.