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re: Herschel Walker considering 2022 senate run

Posted on 4/16/21 at 7:06 am to
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 4/16/21 at 7:06 am to
I was born and raised in stone mountain. Ive lived in dekalb, gwinnett, clarke, fulton, forsyth, and dawson counties.

Add work in Cobb and Cherokee.

Outside of the occasional 70 year old making ill informed remarks based in ignorance or fear, the most prejudice i had seen was from families up in illinois (chicago suburbs) talking openly in their living room about "the blacks" moving into their community.

My conclusion is that areas in close proximity with diversity have the least amount of ignorance (racism). It is 2021 in Georgia. Rants about racism down south are rooted in perceptions held 40 and 50 years ago.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 7:21 am to
I agree with assessment. My grandmother was a racist but she grew up in the south during the depression and it was a cultural norm. I grew up with the Cosby Show and the Fresh Prince of Bel-Air and didn’t think anything different of the black classmates, little league teammates, or Church congregants because I was taught that there are only two kinds of people: sheep and goats (elect and reprobate) and they come in all colors.

I was taught to be color blind and to treat everyone as image-bearers of God, yet the paradigm of today’s culture that is influenced by the racist critical race theory is that we need to see color, we need to treat people differently based on color, and we need to vilify entire groups of people based on arbitrary distinctions. It is racist, un-Christian, and I reject it wholly.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 9:32 am to
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Nope. Not what i said.


You said:

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Ive lived all over Georgia.
There are morons everywhere.
But not white supremacists and neonazis.



Maybe my command of English has slipped and there are other meanings of words of which I am not aware, but you said "there are ... not white supremacists and neonazis."

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I was at UGA in the 90s and i say you are full of shite.


You were on the 10-year plan?? Legendary, bro! Or were you one of those old creeps who would come back to their fraternity house many years after graduating to hit on young girls? In any event, here you go LINK. Or are these more of your time-traveling journalists planting a story in the R&B to make meansonny look bad in an online argument?

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You have nothing to base this in which is why i accused you of pulling it out of your arse.

I have life experience to base this on. Every movement, belief, or institution has levels of devotion. This includes, for example, Islam, Christianity, UGA football, golf, partisan politics, video games, drug use, and white supremacy. You have a comparatively small, inner circle of hardcores, and you have more people who get progressively more casual until you reach the outer rim of normies. That's all I'm saying; are you actually going to argue with me on this point? LINK

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OKeefe

Is a performance art troll. Maybe he's correct on whatever you posted because even a broken clock is right twice a day, but he's a Republican version of Borat, only he isn't funny. The guy is a chameleon on policy. If you recall, he first made a name for himself in the mid-2000's by making ambush videos of prominent Democrats secretly saying they were against the Iraq War, back when being against the Iraq War made you "a pussy liberal who should move to France." And now O'Keefe, like many Trump-age Republicans are now "all about peace" and "no more Mideast wars." Rank hypocrisy.

But most importantly he is a ginger, and gingers don't have souls.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 9:33 am
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12414 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 9:52 am to
I don’t know much about that dude, but even if he is an opportunist, are the videos unture?
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
589 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 10:03 am to
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I don’t know much about that dude, but even if he is an opportunist, are the videos unture?

Alot of his videos are edited to the point of being falsehoods, i.e., cutting out half of a sentence to completely change its meaning. But to the extent they are true, my issue is that he finds one person who says something asinine and then tries to paint it into "all Dems/libs/etc. are involved in a conspiracy!"
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12414 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 10:05 am to
So, he is basically CNN?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:04 am to
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Maybe my command of English has slipped and there are other meanings of words of which I am not aware, but you said "there are ... not white supremacists and neonazis."
I could be wrong, but I think the emphasis was on the word "everywhere".

As in, while there are morons everywhere, white supremacists and neo-nazis are not everywhere.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25550 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:09 am to
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You said:

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Ive lived all over Georgia.
There are morons everywhere.
But not white supremacists and neonazis.




Maybe my command of English has slipped and there are other meanings of words of which I am not aware, but you said "there are ... not white supremacists and neonazis."


I want to give you credit for not falsifying my quote. But the ... sure does leave out some words. You are reminding me of the 80% of the main street media :)
Look at my quote and think real hard. LOL
"Not white supremacists and neonazis" what? Maybe the previous line can fill in the what.

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You have nothing to base this in which is why i accused you of pulling it out of your arse.


I have life experience to base this on. 

Judging by this thread... you are the time traveler. All of your life experiences are over 30 years ago and nothing since.

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performance art troll. 

I wont disagree with your terminology on OKeefe.
The performance is how he infiltrates CNN, Google, DNC, etc..
But he is nothing like Borat.
He will release unedited entire videos (not edited or altered and out of context like Borat. You either are being disengenuous with your comparison or you are ignorant).
The message is only the message caught on tape by his victims (a full unedited video/audo/email is not hypocritical. It is truth. If Dems change their positions, then the video/audio/email will change as well).
The dishonesty from Okeefe and his staff is how they get into organizations. They are con artists in that regard. And they do not highlight good visions, missions, and employees (which i am sure they witness. There is always that 20%). OKeefe highlights the execs, VPs, and policy decisions which are downright deceiptful and unethical.
And he hasnt done this once or twice. He breaks major news all the time (every year at least). The director of programming on CNN claiming to be fraudulent propaganda this week being one of the worst.

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make meansonny look bad in an online argument

Ive got no ego in this. Say what you want. Just try (lol... i laughed typing this) to be honest. I dont like mendacity.

I read your R&B piece. I didnt see it prove your claim that black children were hired to pick cotton balls in the 90s.
Im not an only child (i have older siblings). I wasnt on the 10 year plan, but i was drinking in Athens as a 16 year old and got a job in Athens in the mortgage business after school. I can at least say i was there.

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You have a comparatively small, inner circle of hardcores, and you have more people who get progressively more casual until you reach the outer rim of normies. That's all I'm saying; are you actually going to argue with me on this point? LINK

Yes. Im arguing. Your sam harris video is supposed to equate 60 year old ideologies in the south to 1,500,000,000 muslims? I dont think people look at race in the same fashion as religion (maybe the modern day marxists, but not normal people). I dont think people in the south in the 80s look at race the same as people in the 50s. I dont think people in the south in the 2020s look at race the same as people in the 80s.
You have a pretty theory, but it is still spewing out of your rear and not your brain. Neonazis and white supremacists are not rampant. Sympathizers are not rampant.

The only bone that i will throw your way is that the Diversity and Inclusion Marxist revolution that is sweeping the culture can piss a lot of people off. Opposing neomarxist theories is not neonaziism or white supremacy. Martin Luther King Jr was not a white supremacy sympathizor. But if people get pushed too far in this cancel culture, they can erupt (see the DC rioting or rodney king rioting. Rioting is never called for, but people will do things they normally wont do when fearful of systems).
That is not evidence of neonazis or white supremacists.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25550 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 11:20 am to
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Alot of his videos are edited to the point of being falsehoods, i.e., cutting out half of a sentence to completely change its meaning. But to the extent they are true, my issue is that he finds one person who says something asinine and then tries to paint it into "all Dems/libs/etc. are involved in a conspiracy!"


bullshite

On Twitter, he will publish snippets to get the point to social media AND he releases the unedited videos.

And his arguments are not about "all dems/libs/etc".
His arguments are that google is suppressing information which is bad to the democratic agenda (a public platform campaigning).
Google is pushing new definitions of words to support redefining US History and context.
Youtube has a blacklist of conservative viewpoints which was removing their ability to monetize outside of their contractual obligations with content providers.
CNN was purposefully pushing disinformation to get trump out of office.
CNN purposefully controls what they cover and dont cover to support national DNC narratives.
This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 11:21 am
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6940 posts
Posted on 4/16/21 at 10:47 pm to
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How about you actually present evidence of mass fraud and not just a bunch of conspiracies and excuses


May be evidence or not, but an Atlanta shelter that allows homeless people to occasionally stay there sent in their names for over 10,000 mail-in ballots. Who actually filled out and returned those ballots?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12414 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 7:58 am to
Democrats outspent Republicans by over $3 Billion in the 2020 cycle and the most $$ was spent in GA. Do you think for one minute these highly funded groups didn't take advantage of not needing any sort of ID to farm votes? The data shows unprecedented voter turn out in these areas. The data and the reaction most certainly paint a picture, though people see what they want to see.
Posted by Brick67
Member since Oct 2012
1303 posts
Posted on 4/17/21 at 2:18 pm to
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Alot of his videos are edited to the point of being falsehoods, i.e., cutting out half of a sentence to completely change its meaning.


Point to one...this talking point has been debunked to the point he has sued multiple entities and hasn't lost a case yet. O'Keefe is about to stick it the NY Times. To compare him to Borat is basically based on the parroted unfounded left talking points and not verifying what you're being told to believe.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
29645 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6940 posts
Posted on 4/18/21 at 7:13 pm to
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Second, to the extent there are people who hold white supremacist views, but aren't hardcore about them like neo-nazis, they aren't going to reveal their views with you unless they are your closest of friends or family.


I grew up in the South during the racial unrest of the 1950s and 1960s. I knew many kids and adults that considered themselves to be "white supremacists" and were very open about it. I know a couple of them now, and they don't hide their beliefs.
Your statement is as though you "want" to think there are vast numbers of "white supremacists" everywhere. My guess is there are probably not 20,000 of them in the entire country.
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