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re: Herschel Walker considering 2022 senate run
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:24 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 4/12/21 at 9:24 pm to FooManChoo
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A significant portion of this country knows the election was stolen.
An even bigger portion know that it wasn't.
Including judges in at least 63 courts all over the country that heard the claims of fraud in which no credible evidence was provided and ruled against those attempting to keep the fascist Trump in power at all costs. Ironically, many of the judges were appointed by Republicans. Not to mention Trump's own Attorney General, who came to the same conclusion.
We just spent 4 years with a President who was not remotely interested in anything but dismantling democratic processes, feeding his gargantuan ego, and monetizing the Presidency for his own gain. Never mind the fact that it's laughable to mention the term "moral compass" in this context. The man is likely a sociopath.
If you think there was some sort of coup, well, I guess you can always storm the Capital again.
Oh wait...weren't those were Antifa dressed up and pretending to be Trump supporters.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 2:18 am to Lucius Clay
quote:There are certainly a lot of ignorant people who trust the lies they are fed by the MSM, yes. Fortunately truth isn’t determined by consensus.
An even bigger portion know that it wasn't.
quote:The courts dismissed the suits for lack of standing and mootness. The Texas lawsuit, for example, provided a host of evidence, including the unconstitutional changes to election laws in the battleground states made by governors and AGs that had no authority to make such changes yet the lawsuit was tossed for reasons other than merit. The SCOTUS simply didn’t want to cause chaos by overturning an election. It had nothing to do with the evidence.
Including judges in at least 63 courts all over the country that heard the claims of fraud in which no credible evidence was provided and ruled against those attempting to keep the fascist Trump in power at all costs. Ironically, many of the judges were appointed by Republicans. Not to mention Trump's own Attorney General, who came to the same conclusion.
And like I said, there are still fights going on today in some of those key states regarding audits that Democrats are stonewalling at every turn to prevent the truth from coming out. If Biden really won handily, that truth would be confirmed. Transparency isn’t in the left’s best interest.
quote:Such as? If I recall correctly, it is the left that wants to change all our historic norms regarding filibusters, majorities vs. supermajorities in Congress and expanding the SCOTUS while purposefully preventing election integrity. But please explain how Trump was such a dictator that he put up with constant attacks and multiple bogus impeachments. Worst tyrant ever.
We just spent 4 years with a President who was not remotely interested in anything but dismantling democratic processes,
quote:He certainly has a big ego but if he went into politics to feed it, he had no idea what he was in for because he was attacked nonstop. Not something an egomaniac deals with on purpose.
feeding his gargantuan ego
quote:lol he gave away every paycheck he earned as President. But let’s talk about Joe Biden and using his son to make a buck or two in a few select countries if you want to talk about monetizing the (Vice) Presidency. The Trump brand took a major hit from his Presidency, considering how many hypocritical leftists gushed over him until he came out of the closet as a Republican and then threw baseless accusations at him constantly, hoping something would stick.
and monetizing the Presidency for his own gain.
quote:He is no saint, for sure, but Republicans didn’t vote for him because of his sexual purity; we voted for his economic and social stances. He delivered on most of his promises, too, which is something most Presidents can’t claim. And that was with everyone in D.C. fighting against him. It is incredible, really.
Never mind the fact that it's laughable to mention the term "moral compass" in this context. The man is likely a sociopath.
But on that note, he literally created peace in the Middle East and no one reported on it except in passing because it was during an election year and the MSM didn’t want to give him credit.
quote:Nah, most of us are law-abiding individuals who don’t act on emotion like leftists.
If you think there was some sort of coup, well, I guess you can always storm the Capital again.
quote:Most of the trouble makers, yeah. But at least Conservatives weren’t trying to burn anything down like ANTIFA was doing all last Summer. Some idiots ran all round the Capital and took selfies while Trump was still giving his speech.
Oh wait...weren't those were Antifa dressed up and pretending to be Trump supporters.
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 2:20 am
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:53 am to FooManChoo
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significant portion of this country knows the election was stolen.
Expect it wasnt, there was absolutely no evidence of mass fraud. A the court cases were thrown out, the Supreme Court, and his own AG said there's no evidence of such.
What is didiving the country is digging deeper into the conspiracy theory hole just because certain people refuse to accept reality or want to take advantage of others
Posted on 4/13/21 at 7:56 am to FooManChoo
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he literally created peace in the Middle East
In what world are you living in? The dude sold weapons to the Saudis so they could continue their genocide in Yemen
Posted on 4/13/21 at 8:50 am to FooManChoo
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FooManChoo
Brilliant response. These leftists are living in a different world.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 10:52 am to FooManChoo
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Fortunately truth isn’t determined by consensus.
Yes, but when there is a consensus it is almost always the truth. Cable news, on both the right and left, has done grievous harm to our democracy and civil discourse. Right-wing media, just like the left-wing media, is driven by the same profit motives which results in the sensationalizing of the truth, if not creating outright lies. If we go out and talk with people in our communities with whom we might have disagreements, we will find we agree on far more than we disagree.
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The courts dismissed the suits for lack of standing and mootness.
Many were dismissed substantively, as well. I'm still waiting to see this "evidence."
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historic norms regarding filibusters
The historic norm regarding the filibuster is that (1) it was extremely rare to use and (2) a Senator actually had to speak on the floor. After Obama's election in 2008, the frequency of use by the filibuster tripled overnight. If you recall, McConnell said that his main legislative priority was "making Obama a one-term President." The GOP would filibuster bills they agreed with just to deprive Obama a win. That degree of obstruction is not the intent of the filibuster.
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he literally created peace in the Middle East
I genuinely give Trump a TON of credit for helping to normalize relations between Israel and two Arab countries, but to call it "peace" is not really true because Israel was never at war with the UAE and Bahrain. Most contrary to your claim is that under Trump, the United States joined Saudi Arabia's war (arguably genocide) in Yemen. Just because we don't have ground troops in Yemen (though we do have ground troops on the Saudi side of the border treating their wounded soldiers and refueling their planes) doesn't mean it's not a war. A remotely guided thermobaric missile is just as bellicose as an 11B discharging his M4.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:23 am to baconwaffle
Like Trump or not, he did more positive than any other POTUS in a very short period of time. You guys need to stop mouthing the same words our failed media are mouthing. I don't like Trump very much, but I did like his policies. He set out to accomplish everything he said he would do as a candidate. He kept his word.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:41 am to gulfportdawg
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he did more positive than any other POTUS in a very short period of time
Hardly, the best accomplishment he could brag about was not starting another war but even then he tried to bait Iran into going to war.
He was extremely divisive and lashed out any criticism regardless of it being warranted or not. He continues to peddle the false belief that the election was stolen which creates further division
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:47 am to dawgfan24348
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Hardly, the best accomplishment he could brag about was not starting another war
Trump is antiwar you fool.
There is no baiting iran. He was withdrawing the financial support/access afforded by obama.
Iran wasnt going to do anything about it like they hadnt done anything previously the past 20 years. It was continuing a previous policy.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:48 am to dawgfan24348
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creates further division
Is that a concern of the democratic party?
Seriously?
You want to stand on this hill while the board shoots you down?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:49 am to meansonny
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Is that a concern of the democratic party?
Both are to blame for creating division however that doesn't take away from Trump lying about the election
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:50 am to dawgfan24348
Lowest unemployment for blacks, hispanics, and women in forever. He helped to create millions of jobs, and reduced stupid regulations. Energy independence, no new wars, he got Arabs and Israel to come to the table, quieted little Korea, got China to the trade table with mixed, but mostly good results, lowered your taxes, and there's more. Now, once the china flu hit, all bets were off. But, remember, he did all this while taking no salary, and the media and democrats lying and cheating his arse off to bring him nothing but trouble. You have GOT TO BE KIDDING ME, right? I already know the reason for your post, so don't bother. Oh yeah, I left a few good things out because I can't remember all of them.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:53 am to dawgfan24348
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rom Trump lying about the election
There is documented fraud.
The mainstream media is afraid to even admit this but hide behind judicial mandates that the fraud may not have overturned the results (both points can be factually true).
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:58 am to gulfportdawg
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Lowest unemployment for blacks
Majority of those jobs were under $40k that statement isn't a good as you think it is
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He helped to create millions of jobs,
See point one
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reduced stupid regulations.
Regulations are inherently bad just doing away with regulations isn't always a good thing and can be harmful
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Arabs and Israel to come to the table
The weren't at war so this isn't some amazing accomplishment like getting Isreal and Palestine to end their war
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lowered your taxes,
And that ends in a few years meanwhile his friends don't have an end date to their cuts
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while taking no salary,
He's a billionaire I'm sure he didn't need it anyway
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media and democrats lying and cheating his arse off to bring him nothing but trouble.
I mean sure you have some point here but he brought a lot of hate upon himself too
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already know the reason for your post, so don't bother.
Because I don't worship him? Hey champ not everyone is going to like your man sorry to say it
Posted on 4/13/21 at 11:59 am to meansonny
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There is documented fraud.
No there isn't, every time this gets brought to courts it gets shot down. That isn't come crazy conspiracy it's just reality
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:10 pm to dawgfan24348
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There is documented fraud.
No there isn't, every time this gets brought to courts it gets shot down. That isn't come crazy conspiracy it's just reality
Lol
So in the entire country out of all of the votes, you contend that there was zero fraud?
Will you take a signature/avatar bet that there were no convictions for fraud from last year's elections?
I dont mean pending cases.
If i show a conviction, you let me design a new signature and avatar for you?
Posted on 4/13/21 at 12:16 pm to dawgfan24348
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Lowest unemployment for blacks
Majority of those jobs were under $40k that statement isn't a good as you think it is
The majority of all jobs is under $40k.
Which do you define as better?
Job or no job?
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away with regulations isn't always a good thing and can be harmful
Any specific trump deregulations that are harmful?
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Arabs and Israel to come to the table
The weren't at war so this isn't some amazing accomplishment like getting Isreal and Palestine to end their war
How many middle eastern countries had officially confirmed (ever) the existence of israel prior to the accord.
Acknowledging that israel has a right to exist isnt groundbreaking in the middle east?
As for war... they didnt believe that israel existed. How many declared wars are there against fake countries? You can bomb a fake country without acknowledging its existence. But once you declare war, you are declaring it against the nation.
Who told you "no declared war" was a good talking point with regard to trump's peace accords? I honestly would love the source of this point you made (i dont think you are smart enough to come up with such a dumb point on your own).
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lowered your taxes,
And that ends in a few years meanwhile his friends don't have an end date to their cuts
Anyone who can take advantage of the standard deduction got a tax cut. Do you want to guess how many households that includes?
As for corporate cuts, do you believe that tax revenue increased despite the cuts?
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while taking no salary,
He's a billionaire I'm sure he didn't need it anyway
He donated it. It wasnt just "not taken". One quarter, all of it went to national parks. You dont have to like the guy. But you cant say anything nice about donating his quarterly salary to nonprofits and agencies in need?
This post was edited on 4/13/21 at 1:11 pm
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:31 pm to meansonny
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He was withdrawing the financial support/access afforded by obama.
You mean the frozen money that wasn't ours?
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There is no baiting iran.
There 100% is and the US has been doing it for a long time now
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Iran wasnt going to do anything about it like they hadnt done anything previously the past 20 years
Because Iran knows it wouldn't win
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It was continuing a previous policy.
And this is a good thing how? America had been in Iran's shite since the 50s.
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Trump is antiwar you fool.
Oh yeah all those drone strikes and deals with the Saudis says otherwise
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:37 pm to dawgfan24348
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Lowest unemployment for blacks
Majority of those jobs were under $40k that statement isn't a good as you think it is
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He helped to create millions of jobs,
See point one
Why is this not as good as he thinks? A job paying $40,000 a year is better than no job that was available.
Posted on 4/13/21 at 1:46 pm to meansonny
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So in the entire country out of all of the votes, you contend that there was zero fraud?
There is no evidence of mass fraud certainly not enough to win an election
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