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Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:06 am to BranchDawg
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:06 am to BranchDawg
Eagles Landing should not be allowed to play in 1A private. they beat teams by 50 almost every week.
last year our school (Prince Avenue) and Athens Academy got destroyed but were two of the elite teams in 1A private.
Sadly ELCS will win by 40 again. I dont know how that is entertaining for them to beat every team they play in that league by 50.
last year our school (Prince Avenue) and Athens Academy got destroyed but were two of the elite teams in 1A private.
Sadly ELCS will win by 40 again. I dont know how that is entertaining for them to beat every team they play in that league by 50.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:10 am to LSUHobNailBoot
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Eagles Landing should not be allowed to play in 1A private. they beat teams by 50 almost every week.
I was reading about in Alabama to prevent that if you win 2 state titles in a row as a private school the following year you are reclassed one level higher.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:10 am to LSUHobNailBoot
Yeah, it's reminiscent of Buford in 2A and 3A in the 2000's and early 2010's.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 8:43 am to Alapaha
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Propst runs that program like a college program … and that's no joke. I'm friends with Dextra Polite who is the strength & conditioning coach at Colquitt. The dude is a lot like Scott Cochran as far as intensity and drive. During Fall Camp … Propst has those kids out on the practice field at 5:30 in the fricking morning grinding away. I guess you could say they are like a high school version of Alabama.
Let’s not forget also they play in the toughest region top to bottom in the State -albeit 5 teams- and play some darn good out of region competition each season too. They are battle seasoned come playoff time.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:07 am to BranchDawg
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Yeah, it's reminiscent of Buford in 2A and 3A in the 2000's and early 2010's.
Or Thomas County Central in the 90s. There are actually quite a few comparisons you can use in GHSA history.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 9:10 am to MeatCleaverWeaver
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Let’s not forget also they play in the toughest region top to bottom in the State -albeit 5 teams-
It's 4 teams and ALL get an automatic playoff birth before the season starts.It's also gives them am advantage of scheduling potential playoff opponents throughout the regular season.
Have no idea how you fix it but you need to play more than 3 games that count in the regular season and you can't have an auto playoff birth without taking a snap
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:12 am to DoubleDawg22
What's your interaction with Etowah Valley? I ref soccer for them and know those guys well.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:20 am to RD Dawg
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It's 4 teams and ALL get an automatic playoff birth before the season starts.
That's not technically true.
Any classification that has a four-team region replaces that region's 4-seed in the bracket with an "at-large" bid that goes to the team that didn't otherwise qualify with the highest power rating.
The problem with that is that the power rating is a formula that's almost entirely decided by SOS, and since the teams in 1-7A are great and they get 7 non-Region games to schedule, they can basically schedule their way to that at-large bid.
That said, it's hard to argue that the 4 teams in 1-7A don't deserve to be there. The 4th place team there this year was Tift County who damn near beat Archer in the quarterfinals.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:28 am to RD Dawg
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The state's toughest region, according to the computer Maxwell Ratings, is 1-AAAAAAA. The four-team region has a rating is 79.49. That means the average 1-AAAAAAA team is nearly 12 points better than the average team in the next-best region, which is 3-AAAAAAA, rated at 67.82. That's not surprising considering that 1-AAAAAAA houses three top-10 teams (No. 1 Colquitt County, No. 8 Lowndes and No. 10 Tift County, plus 6-1 Camden County).
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:43 am to BranchDawg
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and they get 7 non-Region games to schedule, they can basically schedule their way to that at-large bid.
Still a huge advantage to have that much flexibility in
your scheduling amd defecto auto playoff births.
I think they just need to go back to 6 classifications and yes South Ga folks will bitch but you just can't have only 4 7A teams in entirety of South Ga.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 10:44 am to RD Dawg
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South Ga folks will bitch
South Ga folks bitch no matter what happens
It's not easy stuff to sort out, I'll say that.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:31 am to BranchDawg
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South Ga folks bitch no matter what happens
South Ga. has a reason to bitch. Take Region 1-AAAAA, for example.
There's only 2 schools South of Warner Robins that are 5-A. Bainbridge, and Thomas County. As a result, our region goes all the way from Harris County, thru Warner Robins, and South to BBGE and Thomasville. So...BBGE and TCC are traveling 200 miles sometimes to play a region game, if the game is in Harris County. It's ridiculous, and it needs improvement.
HS football in this state is becoming watered down due to having 7 classes. The 1-AAAAAAA region is a prime example. Only 4 teams. If there were only 6 classes, that region would be something to behold...Colquitt, Lowndes, Tift, Valdosta, Lee Co., Coffee, Camden, and NS Warner Robins. Whoever came out of that unscathed would have faced a ton of great teams.
On another note, Bainbridge became one of only 3 teams in Ga. HS football history to go 5-5 and still win a state title last night. The other 2 are 1965 West Rome, and 1992 Thomas County Central.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:38 am to UnderDog68
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HS football in this state is becoming watered down due to having 7 classes.
You're in luck. They are proposing going back to 6a in two years.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:45 am to Porter Osborne Jr
If that does happen (6 classes) we will see if Propst is the wizard that he claims he is, because he wasn't able to go unbeaten when he had to play the above mentioned teams week in and week out back when there were 5 and even 6 classes.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 11:47 am
Posted on 12/12/18 at 11:48 am to LSUHobNailBoot
My kids go to Prince. Small world.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:00 pm to UnderDog68
I agree that there's things that are a disadvantage to South Ga, but there are plenty of schools across the state that deal with disadvantages for a number of reasons. The loudest complaints have always come from South Ga folks, and that's been constant through a number of re-arrangements of classifications, etc. through the years.
Hell, Colquitt fans whine every year about having to drive to Atlanta, but they were still bitching when the snow came in and sent it to home fields and the toss sent them N. Gwinnett. Can't be pleased.
Thats fine, but it tells you that you can't take every complaint as a sign that some major change is necessary. You have to take all schools into account.
There's over 400 schools, each with different locations, demographics, numbers, enrollment standards, rivalries, etc. It's really damn hard to figure out a solution that fits everybody, and the bottom line is, any system you put in place is going to be advantageous to some and disadvantageous to others. Doesn't mean any old system is good, but you have to remember that.
Hell, Colquitt fans whine every year about having to drive to Atlanta, but they were still bitching when the snow came in and sent it to home fields and the toss sent them N. Gwinnett. Can't be pleased.
Thats fine, but it tells you that you can't take every complaint as a sign that some major change is necessary. You have to take all schools into account.
There's over 400 schools, each with different locations, demographics, numbers, enrollment standards, rivalries, etc. It's really damn hard to figure out a solution that fits everybody, and the bottom line is, any system you put in place is going to be advantageous to some and disadvantageous to others. Doesn't mean any old system is good, but you have to remember that.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 12:02 pm
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:09 pm to LSUHobNailBoot
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Eagles Landing should not be allowed to play in 1A private. they beat teams by 50 almost every week.
Even when they're "bad" they're good.
The 2014 team made it to the state finals against Mount Paran, but had a regular season record of 4-6 or 5-5 if I remember correctly. Mt. Paran blew them out 49-7, but that was an ridiculously good MPC team and an off Eagles Landing team. It legit takes an all-time team going up against a below average ELCA to even have a hope of beating them now.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 2:02 pm to BranchDawg
Playing in the dome, whether or not it's a lifetime experience, is a disadvantage to South Ga. schools. Funny thing, though....It was never an issue to the GHSA to play the games up there until the 90s, when South Ga. was dominating football. The wheels were set in motion after the 1994 season when the South schools won 3 of the 4 classes. After that, it became an issue. The semis began being played there, and eventually, the title game. At any rate, it's all about the GHSA filling up the money coffers. They could care less about anything else.
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