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Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:47 pm to
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:47 pm to
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The real question here is what team does OState have on the schedule that has above average cover guys and LBs so we can really see how Fields responds?


The real question is how long are you guys going to come up with bullsh*t excuses to explain away his stellar play? Probably from now until the end of his career.

Yes, people will continue to talk about this if Fields continues to be hugely successful. If he was a bust, nobody would give a damn.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3027 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:01 pm to
I don't suppose it would be too much to ask if you would take a moratorium on this harangue until, say, late in the season when he's played more and slightly better competition? Who knows, maybe everyone will be in agreement by then. Or maybe you won't be quite so certain that his stellar play wasn't mainly due to scheduling. Ohio State frequently starts the year by crushing weak teams, so their offensive output isn't exactly out of the ordinary yet.

The main hallmark of a troll from another team is the incessant sniping about one thing after another. Just give this a break for evidence, or at least consider changing your team logo to a Yellow Jacket or Tiger or something a bit more honest. No one will think any less of you for doing that.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42523 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 7:02 pm to
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The real question is how long are you guys going to come up with bullsh*t excuses to explain away his stellar play? Probably from now until the end of his career.


How is bringing up his schedule an excuse? Even Danny Kanell, who hates everything about the SEC found it laughable when people were comparing OSU’s big win over Nebraska to UGA’s win over ND as if OSU has been that much better.

Fields has been awesome this year so far, but I don’t think it’s unreasonable to want to see him perform against a half-way decent defense before anointing him as a top 3 QB in college football.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 8:02 pm to
I can't think 1 QB in history with a better first 5 starts.

Might be tough for some to admit, but all signs point to stardom.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
3027 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 8:51 pm to
I'm sure there are dozens, hundreds who've had extremely good first 5 starts against vastly overmatched competition. It's when they play talent that is more closely matched that the truth is revealed. Fields will have a few opportunities this year to show his stuff, but zero so far. He may turn out fantastic, but this debate is silly right now.

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Might be tough for some to admit, but all signs point to stardom.


Might be tough for some of Fields' acolytes to admit, but it's perfectly reasonable to contend that the signs are too premature to draw any such conclusions.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
17476 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 6:26 am to
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Might be tough for some to admit, but all signs point to stardom


Come back when he plays defenses with more than a pulse.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:54 am to
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I can't think 1 QB in history with a better first 5 starts.



All of these players had a better first 5 games or a similar start to Fields.

Philip Rivers
Shea Patterson
Chad Kelly
Deshaun Watson (if you take out the two injury games)
Kellen Moore
Matt Barkley
Corey Robinson
Johnny Manziel
Jameis Winston
JT Barrett


quote:

Might be tough for some to admit, but all signs point to stardom.


He's definitely on track to be a star
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
59823 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 8:59 am to
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He's definitely on track to be a star


Is anyone really debating his potential/ability? Those of us who soured on him did so because of the nature of his departure and how he handled it.

That's the crux of the bad taste, at least for me.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 9:15 am
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:04 am to
I'm not. I still want to see him perform against some better defenses though.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 9:51 am to
quote:

All of these players had a better first 5 games or a similar start to Fields.

Philip Rivers
Shea Patterson
Chad Kelly
Deshaun Watson (if you take out the two injury games)
Kellen Moore
Matt Barkley
Corey Robinson
Johnny Manziel
Jameis Winston
JT Barrett


quote:
Might be tough for some to admit, but all signs point to stardom.


He's definitely on track to be a star


I knew you didn't check so I just did the first one for you.

Justin Fields
81/116 70%% 1092 Yards 16 TD 0 INT
46 Rush 222 Yards 4.8 Avg 7 TD

Phil Rivers
118/217 54% 1701 Yards 16 TD 4 INT
34 Rush -34 Yards -.1 Avg 0 TD

Which is better?

Manziel was good, but he had a lower completion % and interceptions. Barkley wasn't even in the same stratosphere. Winston was comparable but had interceptions. I remember all of those guys, but I skimmed a few and Fields was better than all that I checked.

And I've watched the games. He can make every throw and he takes care of the ball like a veteran. Kid runs when necessary but doesn't take big hits. He has thrown into tight windows when it's there, but he almost never forces the ball and either hits receivers in stride or puts the ball where the defender can't get it. He hasn't been perfect by any means, but even his misses have been the type of misses where he won't hurt the team with a turnover.

Believe me, this isn't someone who's making it seem better than it is because I'm rooting for the kid. For the first 5 starts of his career, this shite is virtuoso.
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30548 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:15 am to
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And I've watched the games. He can make every throw and he takes care of the ball like a veteran.




calm down Mr Fields. its been 5 games against traditional powerhouses like FAU, Indiana, Cincy, Miani OH, and a bad Nebraska. We are just waiting to see him continue this pace against better competition before we call him the next Tom Brady like you have him at already.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:43 am to
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I knew you didn't check so I just did the first one for you.



I did check. Why else would I throw those names out there. I used Sports References game logs. I said similar or better. I'd say Rivers had a better start since he was at NCST and threw for 1700 yards vs Fields at OSU with a loaded team playing cupcakes.

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Barkley wasn't even in the same stratosphere.


Your bias is showing. Barkley threw for 1338 yards against Ohio State, Notre Dame, Washington St, and California. I'd say that's pretty close to what Fields has done.

quote:

Manziel was good, but he had a lower completion % and interceptions


He threw for more yards and ran for twice as many yards. He threw a whole 2 INTs against better competition.

I also like how you left out off JT Barrett who played in the same system and threw for more yards, tds, and ran for more yards.

In my opinion those three had a better first five games than Fields.


This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 10:49 am
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3941 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 10:44 am to
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He sure as hell hasn't had any difficulty throwing from the pocket or the run at OSU.
His pocket has been immaculate. They haven't played anyone with a pass rush.

I don't know if you legitimately didn't see the plays he bailed on last season or if you're ignoring them but they happened. Yes, he's looked elite this season. He may have improved. That kind of shite happens. That's why coaches make so much money.

Bottom line is your boyfriend left you. He's gone. He's not coming back. I don't really give a frick either way if Fields is the next Cam Newton or the next Christian LeMay. He's not Georgia's quarterback. Jake is and I'm more than happy with that. You can stay a bitter, scorned little bitch if you want. I don't have to come home to you. Neither does Justin.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44830 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:00 am to
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The real question here is what team does OState have on the schedule that has above average cover guys and LBs so we can really see how Fields responds? I don’t know that there is one.


They play Michigan State tomorrow. Michigan State's defense is salty.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:11 am to
Michigan State almost lost to Indiana and gave up like 30 points to them. Brackish at best.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44830 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 11:41 am to
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Michigan State almost lost to Indiana and gave up like 30 points to them.


I think Dantonio will have them ready tomorrow.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:34 pm to
quote:

Your bias is showing. Barkley threw for 1338 yards against Ohio State, Notre Dame, Washington St, and California. I'd say that's pretty close to what Fields has done.


quote:

I also like how you left out off JT Barrett who played in the same system and threw for more yards, tds, and ran for more yards.



Barkley threw 52% with 5 TD and 3 INT. He ran for a grand total of -22 yards. Forget the first 5 games, he only has 2 games the entire season without an interception - cupcake or no. Who's bias is showing exactly?

JT Barrett threw 16 TD 5 INTS and ran for 2 TDs.

I'm not going player by player, but you can maybe say some did as well, but none of those guys did better.

None of this is commentary on Fromm or Kirby or anyone. I just hate that the only people in the country who don't think Fields looks generationally good (so far at least) are some UGA fans. We have a great squad with excellent prospects. No reason for this fan base to be so petty.
This post was edited on 10/4/19 at 4:40 pm
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
30548 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

none of those guys did better.


Fields is tGoat

Can you get off his dick now
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
39994 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 4:40 pm to
Sounds like it’s a matter of opinion and we can agree to disagree then.
Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
1749 posts
Posted on 10/4/19 at 5:54 pm to
No joke. OSU aint played nobody.

Wake me up when he puts up big numbers against a legit team.
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