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re: Fields isn't ready

Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:35 am to
No, that’s not it. The situations were different. That’s the difference.

If you take the Fromm scenario last year, flip it to Fields this year - Fromm goes down for a month and Fields plays four games and every snap, it might have played out similarly.

Fields will be successful when his time comes.
Posted by MacDawg
Austin, TX
Member since Nov 2015
362 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 11:55 am to
He hasn't looked great. I hope he gets to play the entire 2nd half or more next week. And then maybe a good amount of playing time against Tech. That will all depend on the score.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2046 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:05 pm to
He hasn’t looked great? He comes in, picks up first downs when he is only allowed to run, has only been allowed to throw the ball twice last night, completed one and got a PI call on the other.

When Fields comes in, the defense knows it’s a run play.

On the season, Fields has completed in vicinity of 70% of his passes and no interceptions and no fumbles.

Fields gets almost no play at all but does OK on his limited play. Kirby is not allowing Fields to look great given the play calls.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:11 pm to
Why do you think the play calling has been limited?
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2046 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 12:35 pm to
Why do you arse-ume you know?
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 1:01 pm to
You’re right...CKS is leading this conspiracy to make Fields look bad. CKS is sending Fields into games so he can fail and look bad. Makes perfect sense....fire kirby now!
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63958 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 1:15 pm to
I was looking at stats this morning..

If you remove Tua from the equation, Fromm is:

#1 in completion percentage
#2 in yards per attempt
#1 in qb rating
#1 in TD/INT ratio

This includes his shiiiiit game vs LSU.

Speaking of which, think about that game in hindsight.

Fromm had a bad day, and the whole offense suffered. Severely.

It can be extrapolated that Fromm is more than just a game manager. He makes plays. When Fromm doesn't make plays, we lose.

Why would you take snaps away from him and give them to Justin?


Something else I noticed... purely anecdotal and could just be a coincidence..

My liberal friends seem to be on the Fields train, and my moderate and republican friends all seem to be on the Fromm train.

Other than "republicans are racist", why is this? I have a theory. It's the same reason they commit voter fraud and hate rich people. Liberals have something in their brain that makes them think everything is rigged, success only comes through luck or cheating, so rich people deserve to have their money taken away, and Fromm deserves to sit because his success was just luck from Eason getting hurt, and it's the rest of the team that made him more successful, not his own effort/work/ability...obviously Fields is just as good or better because of his ratings in HS, et cetera. But it's just a theory.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 1:17 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9418 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

My point is simply there is no way to know if he is ready or not by the way he has been used in games.


Based on what we've seen from him in games, it's obvious why he wasn't given more chances against LSU, UF or UK. He's just not there yet. It's really not hard to see.

quote:

Fields has not been given chunks of games not even entire series. So now on this game he gets 3-4 plays in a row that don’t go well and here comes the. “Fields isn’t Ready”. - that analysis is made by a person who has seen Fields play ZERO in practice and a handful of plays in games where Fields is brought in to do a zone read or QB keeper.


Clearly, that's all they trust him to do. What did you see from him yesterday that suggest he deserves snaps over Fromm?

quote:


Saying “Fields isn’t Ready” is armchair analysis with no knowledge


Give one example of how he showed he was ready to take over for Fromm? One.

quote:

Furthermore, the goal line series where Fields takes the sack, the play before was pass interference where, had there been no PI, it was a TD, the pass was perfect.



I agree there was PI and JJ might have caught it if it wasn't but you're arguing things that didn't actually happen. That's not reality.

In reality, Justin Fields has shown, in games, he's not quite ready to take over for Fromm. Give him time.

And give it a rest.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6944 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

My purpose is simply to point out there is NO EVIDENCE that Fields isn’t ready


Do you believe that the coaches haven't watched every practice play Fields has made, and observed him in the QB meetings and watched film of his practices? I'm betting Kirby and Chaney have the evidence they need to make the decisions they make.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 2:00 pm to
I’ve noticed that most of the “pro Fields” guys we’re guys that never played a snap of football in their lives. The guys that are “pro Fromm” get that he’s plain and simple ahead of Fields today.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2046 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 2:50 pm to
Fields doesn’t look BAD.

So let’s start there jackwagon.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2046 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 2:52 pm to
If this were a court of law, the case would be dismissed because you have NO EVIDENCE at all. All you have is conjecture.
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2046 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 3:20 pm to
It’s a dumb theory. I am more conservative than anyone in this thread. I don’t believe there is any conspiracy against Fields. I believe Fromm deserves to retain his starter’s job.

However, I part company with you or anyone that is promoting this that somehow Fields is not capable of starting and even excelling right now. Fields is blocked by an incumbent QB who played very good his freshman year and has played mostly good this year.

None of the above is an indictment of Justin Fields ability to take the reigns and guide the offense and the team to success. YES, he lacks the experience at this level but that can only be gained by playing with the full playbook at your disposal.

Don’t make this political. The ones making it political are the “Fields isn’t Ready” crowd.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

Kirby is not allowing Fields to look great given the play calls.




This is perhaps the dumbest thing I have ever read on here.

Fields is struggling with the playbook. Straight out of a player's mouth.
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6132 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 3:42 pm to
quote:

Kirby is not allowing Fields to look great given the play calls.


Your comment makes no sense. Did you even watch him play last night? I could tell last night that the kid can't read the defense very well at all. He needs to work on that along with many other things. He's just not ready yet. College football, especially SEC football is a whole new ball game from HS football.
Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
2021 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS
Member since Sep 2012
6619 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 3:58 pm to
I can tell you from first hand experience that coaching a dual threat QB at the HS level can be a test of patience. Like breaking a bronco you have to get rid of their first instinct which is to pull and run. You have an offensive game plan that you have put hours into and all the sudden you have kid going all improvisation on the field. When it works then you look like a genius.

However when it doesn't its bad. We've had receivers that will be like "frick it" I'm not running my route 100% because he isn't going to stand in the pocket and throw it to me anyway. So they will start to lose faith in the QB. You'll start getting 3 and outs, stalled drives.

Don't get me wrong I love dual threat QBs and the wrinkle that they can bring offensively, and I want Fields to be that guy eventually but understand coaching them is a different kind of beast.
This post was edited on 11/11/18 at 4:03 pm
Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6132 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 4:52 pm to
quote:

I love dual threat QBs


I'm ok with the dual QBs but the way Kirby and Cheney are using it, sucks.
Posted by ugastreaker
South Ga
Member since Jun 2015
4105 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:10 pm to
Well CJC sucks anyway. The game has long passed him by. He can’t adapt and adjust plays to the players of today.
Posted by howieshoodlums
Member since Dec 2016
940 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:14 pm to
[quote]He hasn’t looked great? He comes in, picks up first downs when he is only allowed to run, has only been allowed to throw the ball twice last night, completed one and got a PI call on the other.[/quotep]

How do you know he is only being allowed to run the ball, how do we as fans know that an rpo was called on several of these plays and he didn't take the passing option. You don't know, I don't know, but I guarantee you the coaches know.

Posted by Dawgirl
Member since Oct 2015
6132 posts
Posted on 11/11/18 at 5:24 pm to
Yep. His red zone and goal line plays suck shite. And this run, run, pass crap has to stop too. Not only that, when they are stacking the LOS with 8-9 guys, why is the fatass taking our RBs up the middle? Fricking no game play imagination whatsoever. Hope Kirby fires his arse next year.
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