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re: Fields isn't ready
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:23 pm to FooManChoo
Posted on 11/12/18 at 4:23 pm to FooManChoo
He's not playing because Kirby is a racist!
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:07 pm to FooManChoo
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That's an evidence, yes. If he were ready to take over, he'd either be taking over by now or he'd be splitting snaps with Fromm in big games, not just take a few here and there.
He's being eased into things because he's not there yet.
If you disagree, please explain what you think is the reason why he isn't getting more reps.
My opinion (and yours above is also opinion),
is simply Kirby is satisfied enough w/ Fromm's play that he doesn't feel the need to invite any type of distractions by playing Fields more. My opinion is that Kirby probably just wants to get Fields enough reps to gain confidence and only use him extensively when absolutely necessary (kind of like a fire axe behind glass).
Fields not only is a gifted athlete, he is very smart cookie as well. Made 29 on ACT and was top 20 in his class at Harrison HS. He's not "slow" and he is a student of the game. He was a throw-first/run 2nd QB in high school and played for a really good coach in Matt Dickman. Fields is not your average "dual threat" QB. Further, Fields was an early enrollee. I don't believe for one second he is struggling w/ reads and picking up the offense. Does he have it mastered as much as Jake Fromm who has had a year's head start and starter snaps as a Fresman? NO. And that is the point of my entire argument w/ the lot of you. FIELDS is ready, but FROMM is already in the #1 seat and doing well - if there was no such thing as Jake Fromm, Fields would already be the talk of the SEC - but FROMM is here and, for now, Fields is blocked. I expect 2019 to be wide open - if Fromm beats out Fields in the off-season, then maybe Fields transfers. However, next season, when Fields has had more time and practice, I expect him to seriously challenge Fromm for starter spot.
Bottom-line and back to the OP, there is no evidence that "Justin Fields isn't ready" - there is only the proof that Jake Fromm is.
The END.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 5:22 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 5:22 pm to Long Dawg
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Quick throws are predetermined. This is obvious on its face. When the ball comes out of the QBs hands within two seconds, that is not a play that was designed to go through a three read progression.
Again, you don't know where the play is determined to go unless you're in the huddle or calling the plays. He could have several options before the snap and maybe he's choosing the right one and maybe he's not. We don't know so you can't say he's doing EXACTLY as he's supposed to do. And not all of his throws are quick hitters.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:01 pm to Long Dawg
That ACT score would put his name on a plaque at Harrison right next to mine from 95 when the ACT was still difficult.
I'm honored!
I'm honored!
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:42 pm to deeprig9
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That ACT score would put his name on a plaque at Harrison right next to mine from 95 when the ACT was still difficult.
I'm honored!
would never have guessed that score for you!
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:45 pm to Long Dawg
Well, by all means, let's throw this season out the window because the kid got an okay score on the ACT! Who cares if he isn't even as good as the established QB right now.
I wish I could remember who came in here to vouch for you to be added. I bet that person is thrilled with your contributions thus far.
The end.
I wish I could remember who came in here to vouch for you to be added. I bet that person is thrilled with your contributions thus far.
The end.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 6:58 pm to Barstools
Oof. It was Fibonacci. Which is weird because he actually uses reason and facts to back up his stance. The complete opposite of your style.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:05 pm to Barstools
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Oof. It was Fibonacci. Which is weird because he actually uses reason and facts to back up his stance. The complete opposite of your style.
What's up is down and what's down is up?
My position is there is no proof that Fields isn't ready and all i get is anecdotes in return - this kid is better than the Cartersville kid lighting it up for Clemson. Whatever, I will drop it - take your shots and I won't return fire here in this thread anymore.
You guys are eating your own QB - not sure why.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:10 pm to Long Dawg
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better than the Cartersville kid lighting it up for Clemson.
There you go again...
Based on what?
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What's up is down and what's down is up?
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:05 pm to Long Dawg
You say people aren’t using facts then go and make a claim that literally can’t be backed up by facts at this point. Unreal
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:07 pm to Long Dawg
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My opinion (and yours above is also opinion), is simply Kirby is satisfied enough w/ Fromm's play that he doesn't feel the need to invite any type of distractions by playing Fields more. My opinion is that Kirby probably just wants to get Fields enough reps to gain confidence and only use him extensively when absolutely necessary (kind of like a fire axe behind glass). Fields not only is a gifted athlete, he is very smart cookie as well. Made 29 on ACT and was top 20 in his class at Harrison HS. He's not "slow" and he is a student of the game. He was a throw-first/run 2nd QB in high school and played for a really good coach in Matt Dickman. Fields is not your average "dual threat" QB. Further, Fields was an early enrollee. I don't believe for one second he is struggling w/ reads and picking up the offense. Does he have it mastered as much as Jake Fromm who has had a year's head start and starter snaps as a Fresman? NO. And that is the point of my entire argument w/ the lot of you. FIELDS is ready, but FROMM is already in the #1 seat and doing well - if there was no such thing as Jake Fromm, Fields would already be the talk of the SEC - but FROMM is here and, for now, Fields is blocked. I expect 2019 to be wide open - if Fromm beats out Fields in the off-season, then maybe Fields transfers. However, next season, when Fields has had more time and practice, I expect him to seriously challenge Fromm for starter spot. Bottom-line and back to the OP, there is no evidence that "Justin Fields isn't ready" - there is only the proof that Jake Fromm is. The END.
I scored higher and I couldn’t process the field like other players. It’s part gift and part experience. Some people grab it quicker than others. If Kirby was “satisfied” Fields would be on the bench or red shirting. He is in the unique situation of having a top tier QB on the roster and trying to keep another one on the roster.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:12 pm to Long Dawg
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his kid is better than the Cartersville kid lighting it up for Clemson.
That's your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. I coached against both of them during 7v7 and summer camps. Lawrence is definitely more polished and had a head start since he was starting since the middle of his freshmen year. Not to mention they say his spin and velocity is already higher than most NFL qbs. By the time they leave Fields may catch up to him but Lawrence is just more ready right now.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:18 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
Hell Trevor Lawerence may have been the best QB in the state of Georgia last year...up to and including Matty Ice. Kid is a freak and I’ve been on the opposite side of him twice and it didn’t turn out well either time.
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:29 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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That's your opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. I coached against both of them during 7v7 and summer camps. Lawrence is definitely more polished and had a head start since he was starting since the middle of his freshmen year. Not to mention they say his spin and velocity is already higher than most NFL qbs. By the time they leave Fields may catch up to him but Lawrence is just more ready right now.
Well Fields and Lawrence were neck and neck in the recruiting rankings, and Fields won the 7v7 vs Lawrence at the Elite 11 Camp.
I do value your opinion, but it is one of many other opinions I value.
Trevor played behind a mediocre QB. Easy decision for Dabo to make. Trevor now the starter.
Fields plays behind a really fricking good QB.
Their two situations are totally different.
Fields vs Trevor is great barber shop talk but is truly irrelevant at this point.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 7:05 am to deeprig9
All I can say is...I'm glad I didn't get involved with this one for a change.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:06 am to DawgCountry
Taking that big loss at the goal line proved he isn't ready yet. He is relying too much on his legs to get him out of trouble. Playing QB at this high level requires brains, arm strength and legs to get you through the league.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:18 am to Dawgsfan81
I’d say that play meant he has some lessons to learn before he is at the football level of Fromm. I’m sure Fields will learn from that play and be better for it in the long run. Luckily, Dields s isn’t having to learn these lessons as a starter with a game on the line. Part of the reason why Smarts approach seems to make sense as best as the situation dictates.
Posted on 11/13/18 at 8:20 am to Peter Buck
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Part of the reason why Smarts approach seems to make sense as best as the situation dictates.
Oh no. HT and SJW wont like this. Not one bit
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