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lewis and herschel
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
Don't remember Lawrence playing much VS TAMU, the one TD was more on the WR than Lawrence...


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Crowknowsbest
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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Freshman QBs make mistakes....or is Fields immune to that as well?

All QBs make mistakes
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Do you guys really think Fields is a better QB than Fromm? Yes or no.

I don't know. What I do know is that we have zero chance to beat Alabama with the offense we saw yesterday.


Dawgsontop34
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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So why is Lawrence beating out Bryant vs shitty teams?


Probably because he's better.

Here are Kelly Bryant's stats last year (his junior season): 65% passing, 13 tds, 8 ints; 6.8 yards per attempt

Here are Jake Fromm's stats last year (his freshman season): 62% passing, 24 tds, 7 ints; 9.0 yards per attempt

We need to stop acting like the two QBs are the same level.


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SquatchDawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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Of course Fields is better


Really? Based on what? All of the time you spent watching the two compete in practice? Or are you just going by his HS film and composite rating?


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SquatchDawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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All QBs make mistakes


Yes...but I’m pretty sure it’s an established fact that freshman QBs are more prone to mistakes.

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Do you guys really think Fields is a better QB than Fromm? Yes or no. I don't know


Bull shite. Go back and watch the Rose Bowl and get back to me. You damn well know who the better QB is right now.

Not potential...not physical tools...not talent...right now.


Crowknowsbest
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I’m pretty sure it’s an established fact that freshman QBs are more prone to mistakes.


Some of them are. Not all of them. All players are different.
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Bull shite. Go back and watch the Rose Bowl and get back to me. You damn well know who the better QB is right now.

I genuinely do not know that.

Jake Fromm is playing well enough to beat the vast majority of teams. I do not think he is playing well enough for UGA to hang in a potential shootout vs. Tua. That is a completely different animal and will require a more dynamic offensive effort in general, not just from the QB position.

As an aside, I'm not sure why it's so controversial to want to see what we have in a potentially dynamic player.
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lewis and herschel
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
Kirby had no problem playing Fromm over Eason even after he recovered. If Fields gives us the best chance to win, he would do it again.

Kirby knows light years more than a bunch of trolls on a forum.

Watching the highlight package, Fromm played very well overall. The int was on Mecole.


SquatchDawg
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genuinely do not know that.


I have no idea how you can make this statement after last year...and from what we’ve seen of Fields thus far....or based on the coaches being pretty clear about Fromm being the #1 guy.

If Fields was better he wouldve won the job.

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I'm not sure why it's so controversial to want to see what we have


Because it’s the complete opposite concept from putting your best players you have right now on the field. It’s “everyone else has to earn their spot except this guy” and that’s not the right way to do it.

As soon as Fields shows he can run the offense and perform at a higher level that Fromm I’m sure he’ll be in there. But just wanting to “see what we have” is not the way to do it. Make him earn it.


Long Dawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
Yeah those with an axe to grind against Fields are suspect. Fields hasn’t had a bad showing yet in a game - looked good in spring practice, against AP and MTSU - granted against lower level competition.

To me, it’s not a “Fields vs Lawrence “ thing as much as it is that both the reality and the politics of both situations are markedly different.

1) UGA: Fresh/Soph, Clemson: Sr/Fresh
2) UGA’s tenured starter is better than Clemson’s
3) UGA schedule and division is not a walkover like Clemsons
4) UGA defense not as veteran and stable as Clemson’s

To me, all four of those factor into the difference in how Kirby handles his QBs versus how Dabo does.

I would expect Fields to continue to get 2nd halves of games in blowouts and get mixed in from time to time in 1st half.

Fields role will likely expand some as we progress through the season. Against AU defense and presumably BAMA in SECCG, Dawgs will need Fields skill set and dual threat.

Further, I would imagine Fields family and Fields himself desires to get enough playing time this year so Fields can go into 2019 offseason believing he is seasoned enough to legitimately compete for starting position.

As good as Fromm is, Fields is more talented and he deserves the chance to compete on equal footing in 2019 - to do that, he’s got to be presented with earned opportunities (in practice) to play more than cursory amount the rest of the way - if he feels he isn’t being given a fair shot, he will just transfer.


Long Dawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
Should also be noted that the playbook opens up with Fields - it doesn’t contract. Fields can make all the throws Fromm can - while still providing the dual threat- he just needs game experience.


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SquatchDawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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Kirby had no problem playing Fromm over Eason even after he recovered.


Exactly. But even last year there were a number of people that wanted Eason back because he has the “arm talent” and can “make all the throws”.

Never mind that Fromm looked like he had better awareness of what was going on in his first start than Eason did the whole previous season.

And I am NOT a Fromm homer...I just want the QB that gives us the best chance of winning back there and I don’t think Fields is there yet.


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Crowknowsbest
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I have no idea how you can make this statement after last year...and from what we’ve seen of Fields thus far....or based on the coaches being pretty clear about Fromm being the #1 guy.

If Fields was better he wouldve won the job.

I can make that statement because I haven't seen Justin Fields play that many meaningful snaps.
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Because it’s the complete opposite concept from putting your best players you have right now on the field. It’s “everyone else has to earn their spot except this guy” and that’s not the right way to do it.

I think the opposite. If a player at any other position on our team plays like Fromm did in the first half yesterday, they're going to sit on the bench for a little bit. He was bad. He played a lot better in the second half.


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Crowknowsbest
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The int was on Mecole.

This is nonsense. Fromm misread the coverage and threw a buddy pass into double coverage. The two most likely possibilities were INT or Mecole gets blown up and drops it. Turns out both happened.


djsdawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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Also you have to remember that we’re living in Fields world and exist solely for him to gain experience so he can win the starting role. If we need to take a loss so we can insert a freshman into a tight SEC game then thats a small price to pay.


Do to think it would be stupid to get a backup ready to play to the best of his abilities?


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HTDawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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Watching the highlight package, Fromm played very well overall. The int was on Mecole.


Fromm was utter crap in the first half.


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HTDawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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So what if Fields plays poorly when he comes in. Then we go back to Fromm and ruin both the QBs' confidences?


Funny how Clemson and Alabama didn't have that mentality with their freshman QBs. Look at them now. It's also laughable how you automatically assume that Fields is just going to be terrible if we bring him in. I suspect it has nothing to do with that and more to do with the fact that you love Fromm and will defend him no matter what.

If Fromm was playing lights out, this wouldn't even be a discussion. His performance in the first half of the only two real games we played were just garbage.
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BranchDawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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Freshman QBs make mistakes....or is Fields immune to that as well?


Fromm sure as hell ain't immune to it.


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djsdawg
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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What drive did you want the freshman QB in where an int or fumble wouldn’t have been a big deal?


Why assume anything that bad would occur? Nevermind, we know why. You have made that clear.


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FinleyStreet
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re: Did Trevor Lawrence progress faster than Justin Fields?
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Funny how Clemson and Alabama didn't have that mentality with their freshman QBs.


Lawrence is the clear better player at Clemson; I don't think that's the case in our situation.

Saban had the same mentality as Kirby until the bitter end last year. Tua didn't play in a meaningful game until the NCCG.


djsdawg
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Saban had the same mentality as Kirby until the bitter end last year. Tua didn't play in a meaningful game until the NCCG.


Yea, and Saban screwed that up. He held Bama back by doing that.


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