Posted by
Message
Porter Osborne Jr
Georgia Fan
Member since Sep 2012
28291 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:

I'm positive that you understand Monken better than me.


I don't know if I'd go that far.

I'm just going off some research from the stats at his previous spot and what some USM fans have said.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
Crowknowsbest
Georgia Fan
Member since May 2012
22823 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:

You seem upset.

I'm not. I'm just saying that having a QBs splits be so dependent on one particular WR is not indicative of a healthy offense, and I don't buy that that sickness is entirely talent related.


Dawgholio
Georgia Fan
Bugtussle
Member since Oct 2015
9852 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
meansonny
Georgia Fan
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
10193 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:

I'm not. I'm just saying that having a QBs splits be so dependent on one particular WR is not indicative of a healthy offense, and I don't buy that that sickness is entirely talent related.



Every QB needs a security blanket to convert 3rd downs.
If you convert 3rd downs, everyone else on the team gets fed touches. If you dont convert, you punt.

Mecole had a better year at UGA than he did with the chiefs.
4 different targets in 2018 had 30+ catches (including Mecole). Three targets had 5 receiving TDs or more (including Mecole).

Those arent all backshpulder passes.

But take away a QBs third down conversions, and no one gets enough touches (including the running backs)


Crowknowsbest
Georgia Fan
Member since May 2012
22823 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:

Every QB needs a security blanket to convert 3rd downs.

Fine, but it's the coaches' and QBs job to find a new one when option A goes down. Big WR1 going down can't be an offensive death sentence.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
Peter Buck
Georgia Fan
Member since Sep 2012
8798 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:


I'm not. I'm just saying that having a QBs splits be so dependent on one particular WR is not indicative of a healthy offense, and I don't buy that that sickness is entirely talent related.


Could have been the play calls or could have been Fromm cheating progressions. It happens.

When you run PA out of the pistol or shotgun, you don’t have to turn your back to the field. One of the benefits of it. i’m not gonna argue stats, but it seemed like we did it regularly. My perception could be wrong.

The 3rd and long runs are not shocking to me. You may pop one, but at least get positive yards and lower chances of turnovers. It falls into Smart’s overall strategy really.


Crowknowsbest
Georgia Fan
Member since May 2012
22823 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:

The 3rd and long runs are not shocking to me. You may pop one, but at least get positive yards and lower chances of turnovers. It falls into Smart’s overall strategy really.

The stat was actually for 2nd and long runs, fwiw. In analytics world, that's not a strategy that leads to first downs at a high rate.


meansonny
Georgia Fan
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
10193 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:

The stat was actually for 2nd and long runs, fwiw. In analytics world, that's not a strategy that leads to first downs at a high rate.


I doubt there is a parallel to 2nd down runs and conversions for 1st downs.

A 2nd down incompletion is just as bad as a 0 yard run.

Getting anything positive on 2nd down avoids 3rd and long and keeps the playbook open (and the defense guessing).


Crowknowsbest
Georgia Fan
Member since May 2012
22823 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:

I doubt there is a parallel to 2nd down runs and conversions for 1st downs.

I haven’t run the numbers. That’s why I prefaced with “in analytics world.” I just know that the analytics folks are pretty adamant that that’s a bad tendency.

I think the logic would be that two passes to gain 10 yards is more likely than 1 pass to gain 7 or 8.

How bad of a tendency it is obviously depends on how well you run the ball, which is I think what the tweet was getting at when they said it was understandable in UGA’s case.
This post was edited on 1/14 at 3:07 pm


AllDawgCK
Georgia Fan
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
931 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
Soo.... about Monken...anything new?


SR SponsorSR Fan
USA
Member since 2001
Thank you for supporting our sponsors
Advertisement
VoxDawg
Georgia Fan
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
22031 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role


FlexDawg
Georgia Fan
Member since Jan 2018
2965 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
Brady has shown that a passing coordinator can make a world of difference. So I’m fine with Coley staying as long as they are mimicking what LSU is doing with Ensminger and Brady.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
20
Dawgsontop34
Georgia Fan
Member since Jun 2014
29754 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:

It seemed like Pickens stayed out there pretty much the whole time vs Baylor (whether due to development or necessity or both), and the results seemed generally positive for the offense as a whole.


Pickens is a good blocker too. We should have him out there almost every play.


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
BeefDawg
Georgia Fan
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
3921 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
quote:

Soo.... about Monken...anything new?
The fact Kitchens and his staff were fired a bit over 2 weeks ago, so Monken has been sitting out there for a while and we haven't pulled the trigger yet, suggests this was probably just random rumor mongering.


meansonny
Georgia Fan
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
10193 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
Possibly.

But kirby usually has a plan b and c.


Peter Buck
Georgia Fan
Member since Sep 2012
8798 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
Do we have an open spot on staff currently to bring him in?


RunLindsayRun
Georgia Fan
LaGrange | Athens
Member since Sep 2012
2328 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
I think this would be a great hire. His schemes really open up the passing game. If I’m not mistaking, wasn’t he OC at OK st. when Brandon fricking Weeden was throwing for 500 yards a game?


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
20
K9
Georgia Fan
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
17160 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
Yeah from when Fountain left


dawgdayafternoon
Jacksonville Fan
Jacksonville, GA
Member since Jul 2011
18463 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
Well, Joe Brady just left LSU for the Carolina Panthers OC job.


AllDawgCK
Georgia Fan
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
931 posts

re: **CONFIRMED**GTP/Schlabach - Dawgs May Look to Cleveland OC Todd Monken for Offensive Role
Lol


Replies (0)
Replies (0)
00
first pageprev pagePage 4 of 6next pagelast page

Back to top

logoFollow SECRant for SEC Football News
Follow us on Twitter and Facebook to get the latest updates on SEC Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitter