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re: Can Georgia win a natty with Stetson Bennett?

Posted on 10/31/20 at 11:34 pm to
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 11:34 pm to
So despite on field playtime where Mathis was totally lost and did nothing....and Bennett coming in and winning the game....you’re now certain that he’s better?

How many practices have you been to?
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 11:35 pm to
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So despite on field playtime where Mathis was totally lost and did nothing....and Bennett coming in and winning the game....you’re now certain that he’s better?

How many practices have you been to?


He wasn't totally lost. And he did some good things. This narrative is incorrect.

Go watch the drives again.
This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 11:36 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 11:37 pm to
Again...we didn’t do shite until Bennett came in.

But regardless...

Do you have any reason to think Mathis is better right now?
This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 11:38 pm
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 11:42 pm to
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Do you have any reason to thing Mathis is better right now?


1. He won the job first.

2. He showed drive good signs during his drives.

3. Bennett has played awful. The Mathis that played v Arky was no worse. Why not see what he can do without 90 yards in penalties negating everyngood thin he does?

4. If we're ever going to need him in the future it make sense to worry about his confidence in this staff and in himself. The message this sends is the staff doesn't believe in him.

That's not even saying he should start. He should see the field though.
This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 11:43 pm
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 10/31/20 at 11:49 pm to
So are you willing to lose to FL and maybe others to get on the job training so he shines in the Outback Bowl?

I’m not some Bennett apologist...but why do we continue to always believe the guy on the bench is the savior? I’m pretty sure the coaches are pretty good at evaluating talent.
This post was edited on 11/1/20 at 12:04 am
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 12:47 am to
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I’m not some Bennett apologist...but why do we continue to always believe the guy on the bench is the savior? I’m pretty sure the coaches are pretty good at evaluating talent.



What the hell are you folks watching?

This is not last season. We don't have an NFL caliber player starting. Bennett is averaging a turnover a quarter over the past game and a half so getting another guy time isn't some huge risk. There's no sacrifice and they're will likely be no drop off.

Most of the passes today were short, screens, or behind the LoS. Mathis can do that, and he is better running the ball. What's the big sacrifice?

And I'm not even saying Mathis or Daniels should start. At least one should get time though.
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:36 am to
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He wasn't totally lost. And he did some good things. This narrative is incorrect.

Go watch the drives again.


The penalties were a bigger problem than Mathis performance.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 11/1/20 at 4:49 am to
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I’m pretty sure the coaches are pretty good at evaluating talent.


I ain’t so sure they are. I gave them the benefit of the doubt with Fields but I am not so sure now that was deserved.

Let’s us take a look. Jacob Eason was judged to be the superior talent but Jake Fromm proved to be more talented when Eason was healthy again.

Fromm was superior to Fields. Was he??? It’s questionable at best.

Mathis was superior to Bennett.

At least 2/3 of the data suggests that the starting QB in game 1 of the season, judged so by this staff, was not the best talent FOR THE GAME. Eason started, got hurt, Fromm beat him out. Mathis started, Struggled, Bennett beat him out. This judgment of talent has to extend beyond what happens in practice.....or maybe what happens in practice is not being done correctly.....but for whatever reason there has been QB drama at UGA since Smart arrived and if it isn’t corrected in the next couple of years Smart is indeed Richt 2.0
Posted by dirty bastard
Delacroix, Georgia
Member since Aug 2020
2116 posts
Posted on 11/1/20 at 5:39 am to
No we can not and it's very evident.
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:42 am to
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why do we continue to always believe the guy on the bench is the savior?


That's football - everybody loves the backup QB. Usually right up until he actually plays...
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5413 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 8:44 am to
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ou play the best QB to win the next game. Coaches watch these guys every week and get paid to win.
quote:

Why is this so hard to understand?

Because we insisted on continuing to play Fromm over a clearly more talented Fields.
Posted by bunkerhill
Georgia
Member since Oct 2017
1368 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 8:52 am to
If Bennett is the best talent in the QB group, Georgia is not doing anything at evaluating and coaching-up QB talent.

Who is the QB coach now?? Is it Monken?

I would not be surprised to see an exodus of QBs in the off-season.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:31 am to
they could have end up running around like a chicken with its head off. Checking into wrong plays. Getting a RB crushed. Getting themselves hurt, because they have no idea what they are doing.
Posted by 3rddownonthe8
Atlanta, GA
Member since Aug 2011
5212 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:34 am to
JTD is starter next year at the latests if not in the next 2 weeks.
Beck and BVG get reps in 21 and fight for it in 22

Mathis should transfer, he’s caught in the middle. There is no who doesn’t want the Cb/BVG winner starting in 22. It gets the QB position finally in a manageable order, for playing and recruiting.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:38 pm to
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You play the best QB to win the next game.

The problem with that is that there will ultimately be a next game that UGA can’t win with the current situation unless they can get a different QB up to speed.
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7000 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:53 pm to
From what I've seen of Daniels he is purely a pocket passer with no ability to run. I don't think that JT has any chance to win many SEC games. Check out JT's freshman highlights.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 3:55 pm to
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From what I've seen of Daniels he is purely a pocket passer with no ability to run. I don't think that JT has any chance to win many SEC games. Check out JT's freshman highlights.

We just won a bunch of SEC games with Jake Fromm.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 4:46 pm to
Last time we decided to change things up with a new QB against Florida we put in a mobile QB named Bauta.

I have never understood the mentality that "We can't trust our coaches! They don't know what they are doing, and they should follow the advice of fans who have not been at practice and know nothing about the health or ability of the other QB candidates."

I think we are way overpaying Kirby if we don't allow him to make the decisions.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41648 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 5:00 pm to
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Last time we decided to change things up with a new QB against Florida we put in a mobile QB named Bauta.
I had such high hopes for Bauta. It's a shame we didn't have a package of plays for his strengths. Making him be a pocket passer QB was just pitiful.

To the rest of your point, I agree completely. CKS knows his team and their capabilities better than we do.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58902 posts
Posted on 11/2/20 at 7:32 pm to
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I had such high hopes for Bauta. It's a shame we didn't have a package of plays for his strengths. Making him be a pocket passer QB was just pitiful.


No doubt that experiment was a mistake. And I agree they should have given him more plays tailored around his abilities.

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To the rest of your point, I agree completely. CKS knows his team and their capabilities better than we do.


I have noticed we typically do agree on most stuff. I understand people are just giving their opinion, but I am big on letting a $6 million dollar coach coach, or get rid of him. When I played i hated hearing people second guessing the coaching all the time. I could always understand people criticizing a player for messing up (Although I typically felt they didn't know what they were talking about because they didn't know the ins and outs of a play) but I always took it personally as a player when people criticized the coach. I understand a player doing it a lot more than some random fan in the stands.
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