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re: 2020 Recruiting Thread (SVP and Broderick Jones stay committed to the G)

Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by dallasga6
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 1:37 pm to
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7 of the top 10 classes for 2020 are SEC teams.





#8 UF is closer to #22 Stanford than they are to #1 UGA.

#10 UT is closer to #30 Maryland than they are to #1 UGA.



This post was edited on 2/5/20 at 1:42 pm
Posted by DawgsLife
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:19 pm to
What kind of a Cawg fan are you, losing your computer?
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 2:23 pm to
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#8 UF is closer to #22 Stanford than they are to #1 UGA.




Just got a good chuckle from the past month of threads on the UF board.


"Georgia is depleted!" "It's our time!"
Posted by Whiznot
Albany, GA
Member since Oct 2013
7010 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:09 pm to
I read that thread and wondered what we are depleted of. The 2020 UGA defense will be the conference's best. We kicked an under performing offense to the curb for an upgrade. I think this will be out best year under Smart.
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:12 pm to
My Tater bud just said Burch faked signing today...WHAt?
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:28 pm to
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We arent depleted anywhere

We have been thinner at interior linemen the past 2 recruiting classes. With losses of Kindley and Mays, those positions are worth paying attention to. Remember, we got down to 3rd string options at all interior line spots in 2019 and we played with a 4th string RG in the SECCG and Sugar Bowl from the 2018 season.

Losing 3 top TEs (and 1 grad transfer from Tennessee) the past 2 seasons, we are thin at TE and again reliant on a grad transfer to step up in the room.

I'm stuck at work, I may have to finish later. We have some question marks (like every team)
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:44 pm to
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we are thin at TE and again reliant on a grad transfer to step up in the room.

Thin huh. We got Goede, Fitzpatrick, Washington, and grad transfer Tre Mckitty. Thats solid as frick. With the exception of Tre McKitty we got all our TE's for the next 3 years.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:47 pm to
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With the exception of Tre McKitty we got all our TE's for the next 3 years.


That's the problem
The exact problem I stated with the 3 stud TE recruits who left in the past 2 seasons.

We are young as frick at TE.

I hope that Fitzmagic is the truth at tight end. But that's hoping. Upper class leadership is a real thing. Right now, that is McKitty and any walkons in the tight end room.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 3:58 pm to
I had said for a while (since before 2019 season) that 2020 was UF's best chance to snag a win in Jax... That doesn't mean I think they do it, just that the likelihood of our on field team having some pretty significant holes to fill might give them a chance.
LT/RT replaced (expected)
Starting QB replaced (assumed would be the case)
LG replaced (somewhat of a surprise)
#1/#2 RBs replaced (expected)
#1 TE replaced again (known)

Buuuut... Once all known attrition has been tallied up for Gators, not sure they're in a significantly better place:
#1 RB replaced - if Lingard doesn't get a waiver, pretty lackluster committee there?
#1/#2 WR replaced - Grimes is good, Toney and Copeland are at least decent, but their second best receiver likely is their TE...
OL returns, but was pretty bad to begin with, so will be interesting to see if that's a good thing
DL - they add Brenton Cox but lose Greenard and Zuniga, easily their most productive/disruptive players in 19... not sure that's a good trade. They lost ~1/2 of their DT production in Shuler... though Campbell was probably the better half of that rotation. Still have to replace a lot of snaps with less known entities.
LB - Replacing Reese should be interesting. Easily the best LB they had. They look thin here in general
CB - they'll be solid here between Elam and Wilson
S/NB - they'll return safeties that had some questions already... but at nickel, they may have problems... looks like the primary option is moving Burney back to DB after a short stint at LB... if that's the case, he's probably a liability more often than they'd like.

All in all, they've got as many if not more questions on defense than we have on offense by my read from a personnel standpoint. Biggest question for us is going to be what Monken is able to do and how well can Newman perform... there's a lot riding on the shoulders of those 2 in 2020.
Posted by ValDawgsta
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:03 pm to
Very good analysis. I'm not going on a limb here, but the East will come down to who wins in Jacksonville. I'm not buying the Tennessee hype at all. They're going 8-4 at best.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:12 pm to
I agree. The talent gap is widening.
We had 9 out of 22 starters in 2019 who were 3 stars or less.

Looking at 2020, I see QB Newman, TE McKitty, CB Stokes, and NT Davis as our 3 star starters.

I give UF credit for defensive recruiting in 2019 and 2020. But it takes a few years for those guys to contribute. And their offensive recruiting is a hair better than GTs class. It isnt happening down in gainesville.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

We arent depleted anywhere

We have been thinner at interior linemen the past 2 recruiting classes. With losses of Kindley and Mays, those positions are worth paying attention to. Remember, we got down to 3rd string options at all interior line spots in 2019 and we played with a 4th string RG in the SECCG and Sugar Bowl from the 2018 season.

Losing 3 top TEs (and 1 grad transfer from Tennessee) the past 2 seasons, we are thin at TE and again reliant on a grad transfer to step up in the room.

I'm stuck at work, I may have to finish later. We have some question marks (like every team)


With improvement in the best D in the nation last year, the offense only has to be moderately improved to win. Add to that the fact that Bama and LSU lost All American QBs, and the Tigers faced a mass exodus of key players I think the Dawgs have as good a chance as ever to win the SEC.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:27 pm to
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Very good analysis. I'm not going on a limb here, but the East will come down to who wins in Jacksonville. I'm not buying the Tennessee hype at all. They're going 8-4 at best.



UT is closer to Florida right now than Florida is to us.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:30 pm to
It'll be weird playing them so late in the season this year... But that probably works out in our favor with a younger offense needing time to gel.

Schedule sets up not toooo bad, all things considered.

Open with Monday game neutral site game. Should mean a bit more time to work out kinks before first game. Virginia is replacing a *lot* from 2019 team. Would be a surprise to see us lose here and probably would be a bad sign for the year to come.

Short week before ETSU game. Should have a strong desire to get up early and play deeper into the roster to make sure everyone is firing on all cylinders before the big matchup.

Alabama on the road week 3... It will be what it will be. They're replacing a lot and Mac Jones has looked far from unflappable. Will need DBs operating at a high level this day. A loss here would be manageable, but certainly have a chance to take home the W still.

ULM - good game to come back home to after a big showdown. Hopefully leave Tuscaloosa healthy and with a W, but if not, good "get right" game.

Vandy - easing back into the SEC, another get right game if needed

Auburn - earlier in the schedule than ever, but at home... Will be interesting. Good chance they're 5-0 here, with only real tests of UNC in Atlanta, and maybe Ole Miss on the road?

Mizzou - on the road, but new staff, lot of personnel turnover, etc... At this point, team should be what it's going to be, so no excuses for a lull performance here.

Bye

Florida - never good to lose in Jax. will have a good bit more riding on it depending on the earlier season results. We are likely the last "big" game on their schedule... If they make it through the earlier schedule with no more than 1 loss, high likelihood that they throw everything and the kitchen sink at us to try and sneak out with a win.

We have a sneaky finish after this... no specific games that concern me a ton, but road games later in the year are always of interest (USC and UK), and then what supposedly is an improved Tennessee late in the year as well... again, their last "big" game on the schedule.

Definitely looks like we're likely to be the "super bowl" finish for a couple of teams on the schedule, so as I mentioned before, Monken and Newman likely write the story here. No matter how good our returning defense is, if those guys are duds, we could be a 9-3 (+/- 1) team. If they're everything they're touted to be, we're likely 11-1 with upside.
Posted by BranchDawg
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:40 pm to
Going to Columbia in November will feel really weird.

I think still think 10-2 is worst case scenario. That would be losing 2 out of 3 against Bama, AU and UF.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
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Posted on 2/5/20 at 4:49 pm to
I mean.... "Worst case scenario" could be pretty bad. If Monken can't get a system installed and/or Newman can't adjust to SEC speed, a lot of the things that we many may have taken for granted about Jake's limitations could become problematic.

For all his flaws/faults, Jake was reluctant to throw balls that might get picked off and he generally read the defenses pretty well. Newman's been criticized for his performance against zone D, and I can't imagine that if that continues to be an issue that he won't see it almost exclusively. Additionally, we're still counting on young receivers to step up in the new offense.

My worst case 9-3 +/-1 was envisioning a scenario with an abnormal number of interceptions thrown and generally poor installation of Monken's system... By no means do I think it's probable that we end up there, just that there truly could be a pretty low floor if a lot of things go wrong. Unlikely as it may be, I try to be pretty unbiased when I throw ceiling/floor stuff together. I could see a case for removing the -1 on that 9-3 variable, as I don't see a clear 4th potential loss barring some insane growth from a team like Tennessee.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58924 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:30 pm to
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Thin huh. We got Goede, Fitzpatrick, Washington, and grad transfer Tre Mckitty. Thats solid as frick. With the exception of Tre McKitty we got all our TE's for the next 3 years.



We also have Seither.
Posted by Damn Good Dawg
Member since Feb 2011
47325 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:34 pm to
So what's up Burch, kids. I know not UGA but, uhh, what's up with all that?
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:40 pm to
I'm usually the last person to bring up bag men and illicit dealings, but damn if this doesn't seem like one of those "uh... that check hasn't cleared" scenarios... Just a weird recruitment in general. Good luck to the kid wherever he ends up.
Posted by JakeScott
Lake Lanier
Member since Oct 2015
695 posts
Posted on 2/5/20 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

Going to Columbia in November will feel really weird.



And a helluva lot more comfortable.
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