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re: Let's all take a moment to point and laugh at what is going down on the 40 Acres
Posted on 9/6/15 at 3:52 pm to Cheese Grits
Posted on 9/6/15 at 3:52 pm to Cheese Grits
They really are undergoing a Fran-level program destruction. 10 years ago I was convinced they would never win less than 10 games a year. I keep telling myself they will end up with a VY/Jamaal Charles/Shipley type player that will turn it around, but that shite aint happening. They really are fricking horrible and I can't stop laughing.
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Posted on 9/6/15 at 4:10 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
quote:i said they very well could be this bad on the MSB like two weeks ago. PEEJ wanted to ban bet me that it wouldnt happen
They will be 3 or 4 win bad
Posted on 9/6/15 at 4:10 pm to Old Sarge
quote:i would be cool with 0-12 and they make shite hire after shite hire
I still want 6-6 for them
Posted on 9/6/15 at 4:13 pm to agalloch
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They really are fricking horrible and I can't stop laughing.
Rice can beat them. Just need to kick a field goal early in the first Q and force texass to play catch up the rest of the game.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 4:24 pm to Tridentds
I'm not sure how solid rice is this year but the rice of a couple of years ago sure could beat them.
But dang wouldn't it be funny if the MOB made fun of Charlie
But dang wouldn't it be funny if the MOB made fun of Charlie
Posted on 9/6/15 at 4:40 pm to Old Sarge
I don't know if Vegas has put out a line on this one yet, or not. If Rice comes away with a victory, would you really call it an upset given how the Horns looked? An upset perhaps, but not exactly inconceivable.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 4:41 pm to Dr RC
[quote]I think they would have been better off keeping Mack TBH. I don't think he would have put all his eggs in the Kyler Murray basket the way Strong did.[/quote
I agree. I liked and respected Mack and still think he was going to get 8-10 wins every year till his BS with Ash and Case.
I agree. I liked and respected Mack and still think he was going to get 8-10 wins every year till his BS with Ash and Case.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 7:00 pm to PikeBishop
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don't know if Vegas has put out a line on this one yet, or not.
Think Texas -16 is the line I saw earlier.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 8:09 pm to Tridentds
For an offense in complete disarray, 16 points is alot to give. They will probably try to just hand it off to their running backs and overpower Rice. If that doesn't work, then I can't see them covering that spread.
Posted on 9/6/15 at 8:40 pm to PikeBishop
that oline in austin isn't just bad. it's an fcs oline for goodness sake.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 12:25 am to BadAgg7
Posted on 9/7/15 at 7:58 am to Dr RC
wow. that's good to see. i don't have the same hate toward the horns as most of you. i've only been an a&m fan going on 4 years, but it is good to see them doing so bad.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 9:32 am to BadAgg7
There is no such thing as a slow burn in Austin. Still wish it was a slower decline, but by the looks of no improvement from the bowl game to Saturday, they are in freefall.
Hope they put a double digit win against the owls.
Hope they get into the BXII schedule and get some wins, maybe over oklahoma. Keep the casual longhorn fans sated and blind to the bigger picture.
If they get blown out this year Strong has another year at best.
Hope they put a double digit win against the owls.
Hope they get into the BXII schedule and get some wins, maybe over oklahoma. Keep the casual longhorn fans sated and blind to the bigger picture.
If they get blown out this year Strong has another year at best.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 9:35 am to Jobu93
The absolute best thing that can happen for us at this juncture is for us to keep winning high profile games and the sips to be mediocre. I love seeing then get blown out, but if they think they're on the cusp of turning things around, they will keep kicking the proverbial can down the road instead of fixing their problems sooner.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 9:53 am to Jobu93
i think strong is a good program builder. i've always liked him as a coach, whether i agree with everything he does or not.
coaches have to try and win the way they know how, every coach doesn't do it the same way.
that said, i think if strong gets all 5 years then he will have built a winner in austin, maybe not a top 10 type team, but his way of doing things is just slow and pragmatic, maybe a little overbearing.
he developed some of his more hardline philosophies because the type of players he's recruited over the past few decades, in south florida specifically, probably needed it. now he's in texas and it looks like overkill.
i'm with you, they aren't going to be that great next year either. if he doesn't win 8 or 9 games next year he's gone.
if they let strong hang around long enough, he will put a program together. that's what i'm afraid of. he builds things to last, even if it takes a while to do it.
coaches have to try and win the way they know how, every coach doesn't do it the same way.
that said, i think if strong gets all 5 years then he will have built a winner in austin, maybe not a top 10 type team, but his way of doing things is just slow and pragmatic, maybe a little overbearing.
he developed some of his more hardline philosophies because the type of players he's recruited over the past few decades, in south florida specifically, probably needed it. now he's in texas and it looks like overkill.
i'm with you, they aren't going to be that great next year either. if he doesn't win 8 or 9 games next year he's gone.
if they let strong hang around long enough, he will put a program together. that's what i'm afraid of. he builds things to last, even if it takes a while to do it.
Posted on 9/7/15 at 8:22 pm to BadAgg7
Uh, no...
Posted on 9/8/15 at 7:38 am to Dr RC
Here are the rent-a-win teams that had more points than Texas:
Texas State (and against a higher-ranked opponent too)
UTEP
UTSA
SMU
Sam Houston State
Abilene Christian
Tulane
Southern Miss
Florida Atlantic AND Florida International (even UCF in their upset loss scored 14)
EVERY SWAC program except Mississippi Valley State
The only Texas-based school that didn't was North Texas--and that's only because they don't start play until this weekend. (SFA played another FCS school so I'm not including them)
Texas State (and against a higher-ranked opponent too)
UTEP
UTSA
SMU
Sam Houston State
Abilene Christian
Tulane
Southern Miss
Florida Atlantic AND Florida International (even UCF in their upset loss scored 14)
EVERY SWAC program except Mississippi Valley State
The only Texas-based school that didn't was North Texas--and that's only because they don't start play until this weekend. (SFA played another FCS school so I'm not including them)
Posted on 9/8/15 at 9:00 am to BadAgg7
I like you, but I have to totally disagree with this post.
Strong is not a program builder, was not a good hire, is completely out of his depth, and is borderline mentally challenged. He can't even verbally compose a coherent English sentence. The guy is real, real dumb. That's why he got passed over for so many jobs. He bombed the interviews. It wasn't racism, as he claims. It's that he came in for interviews and AD after AD thought to themselves: "Would I even let him paint my house? Maybe not."
Unfortunately, this is not a slow burn.
Houston radio is ALIVE today with Longhorn callers who are "giving up" on Charlie. It's happening fast. I was hoping he'd follow the Fran Plan and get 7 wins this year only to bomb next year.
Strong is not a program builder, was not a good hire, is completely out of his depth, and is borderline mentally challenged. He can't even verbally compose a coherent English sentence. The guy is real, real dumb. That's why he got passed over for so many jobs. He bombed the interviews. It wasn't racism, as he claims. It's that he came in for interviews and AD after AD thought to themselves: "Would I even let him paint my house? Maybe not."
Unfortunately, this is not a slow burn.
Houston radio is ALIVE today with Longhorn callers who are "giving up" on Charlie. It's happening fast. I was hoping he'd follow the Fran Plan and get 7 wins this year only to bomb next year.
This post was edited on 9/8/15 at 9:03 am
Posted on 9/8/15 at 9:40 am to Cooter Davenport
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Houston radio is ALIVE today with Longhorn callers who are "giving up" on Charlie. It's happening fast. I was hoping he'd follow the Fran Plan and get 7 wins this year only to bomb next year.
I wish the cooler heads would prevail as well and let Charlie have his five years (a coach taking over a troubled program really needs this much time, and Year 2 is usually the worst since the coach is just starting to recruit his players while purging the team of those from the former coach he doesn't want or who don't want to stay).
Five years of this and the next coach would need at least 10 to undo the damage. Maybe longer if OU finds a way into the SEC (which its fans want and maybe some of its BMD's do as well).
Posted on 9/8/15 at 10:07 am to Cooter Davenport
It was a bad mix from the get go. Strong is in so far over his head at texas that it is almost impossible for him to survive another year of ineptitude on the field. Going to take Patterson down with him. Strong looks very bad when having to think on his feet. He looks dumbstruck on the sideline. Just a blank stare.
One of the knocks on him was the HC at texas needed to be media savvy and needed to come across well on camera and he was horrible at this before they hired him. Just not very personable. That might be okay as a position coach but not as the HC... especially there and definitely not there with LHN over his shoulder or the donors there. As a reminder here is an ESPN writer from June last year at coaches clinic in San Angelo:
LINK
Some highlights if you don't want to bother reading it:
If he can't sell Texas High School coaches and players on himself, he is doomed for failure.
Just my opinion but I think the fact that A&M left texas behind and they no longer have a game with us has hurt their recruiting and brand more than they want to admit. They only have 1 true marquee game now... OU. If texas is 7-4 and OU is 7-4... people will watch it. It texas is 7-4 and Baylor is 7-4... ratings go in the toilet. That's what I mean by marquee. On top of everything else going wrong at texas... he is having to deal with the subtle repercussions of A&M going to the SEC. In my personal opinion this is factoring in much more than they ever dreamed and is making a bad marriage even worse. They need a big personality to come in and shine a light back on that program from a PR standpoint.
One of the knocks on him was the HC at texas needed to be media savvy and needed to come across well on camera and he was horrible at this before they hired him. Just not very personable. That might be okay as a position coach but not as the HC... especially there and definitely not there with LHN over his shoulder or the donors there. As a reminder here is an ESPN writer from June last year at coaches clinic in San Angelo:
LINK
Some highlights if you don't want to bother reading it:
quote:
Charlie Strong's first impression with Texas high school coaches may not have exactly lived up to his last name.
"I think everyone was shocked. It was that bad," one coach told Haney.
Another said, "He obviously didn't want to be here. If he did, he sure as [heck] didn't show it."
The 53-year-old Strong has long had a reputation of being something of an introvert, and not all that interested in the more political aspects of a Division I head football coach's job.
If he can't sell Texas High School coaches and players on himself, he is doomed for failure.
Just my opinion but I think the fact that A&M left texas behind and they no longer have a game with us has hurt their recruiting and brand more than they want to admit. They only have 1 true marquee game now... OU. If texas is 7-4 and OU is 7-4... people will watch it. It texas is 7-4 and Baylor is 7-4... ratings go in the toilet. That's what I mean by marquee. On top of everything else going wrong at texas... he is having to deal with the subtle repercussions of A&M going to the SEC. In my personal opinion this is factoring in much more than they ever dreamed and is making a bad marriage even worse. They need a big personality to come in and shine a light back on that program from a PR standpoint.
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