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How many coaches would be doing a better job than Jimbo?
Posted on 11/5/22 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 11/5/22 at 4:36 pm
I'm going to say between FBS, FCS, and former HCs currently on TV roughly 50.
He's maybe at best the 8th or 9th best HC in the SEC right now? Also don't bring up any well he won a title bullshite. Nobody cares what he did over 10 years ago in the ACC. He ain't that guy anymore.
Jimbo gets everything he asks for w/facilities and coaches salaries. The entire school is football focused. We have a huge fanbase. The school damn near recruits itself due to location and facilities.
Yet this bum is going to have a losing season in year 5 all while blaming youth and player execution as if that's not 100% at his feet.
How many HCs can you think that would do better than this w/all the advantages given to him? Hell, Sumlin never had a losing season and he was drunk half the time. Recruiting the #1 class doesn't mean shite if you can't coach and it's pretty damn clear that Jimbo doesn't have the ability to "coach em up" and instead relies on out talenting his opponent. Well that shite just won't work in today's CFB world. Even Saban had to change how he approaches the game to stay on top.
Meanwhile we have Lord Jimbo who has barely changed his offense in 20 years steadfastly refusing to do anything different. You could probably watch film of FSU to gameplan our team and be moderately successful doing so due to how damn predictable he is w/his playcalling. I hope none of you have your hopes up for a new OC b/c it's going to be over his dead body.
He's maybe at best the 8th or 9th best HC in the SEC right now? Also don't bring up any well he won a title bullshite. Nobody cares what he did over 10 years ago in the ACC. He ain't that guy anymore.
Jimbo gets everything he asks for w/facilities and coaches salaries. The entire school is football focused. We have a huge fanbase. The school damn near recruits itself due to location and facilities.
Yet this bum is going to have a losing season in year 5 all while blaming youth and player execution as if that's not 100% at his feet.
How many HCs can you think that would do better than this w/all the advantages given to him? Hell, Sumlin never had a losing season and he was drunk half the time. Recruiting the #1 class doesn't mean shite if you can't coach and it's pretty damn clear that Jimbo doesn't have the ability to "coach em up" and instead relies on out talenting his opponent. Well that shite just won't work in today's CFB world. Even Saban had to change how he approaches the game to stay on top.
Meanwhile we have Lord Jimbo who has barely changed his offense in 20 years steadfastly refusing to do anything different. You could probably watch film of FSU to gameplan our team and be moderately successful doing so due to how damn predictable he is w/his playcalling. I hope none of you have your hopes up for a new OC b/c it's going to be over his dead body.
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 4:57 pm
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Posted on 11/5/22 at 4:38 pm to Dr RC
Fisher is terrible. Washed up bum
Posted on 11/5/22 at 4:57 pm to Dr RC
Here are FBS head coaches. That's 36 right off the bat.
Nick Saban
Kirby Smart
Lane Kiffin
Sam Pittman
Mike Leach
Josh Heupel
Mark Stoops
Bryan Kelly
Hugh Freeze
Dabo Swinney
Mack Brown
Dave Clawson
Mike Elko
Dave Doeren
Pat Narduzzi
David Aranda
Mike Campbell
Lance Leipold
Kris Klieman
Mike Gundy
Sonny Dykes
Jim Harbaugh
PJ Fleck
Ryan Day
James Franklin
Ryan Day
Luke Fickell
Mike Houston
Gus Malzahn
Jeff Traylor
Troy Calhoun
Chip Kelly
Lincoln Riley
Shawn Clark
Jamey Chadwell
Curt Cignetti
Nick Saban
Kirby Smart
Lane Kiffin
Sam Pittman
Mike Leach
Josh Heupel
Mark Stoops
Bryan Kelly
Hugh Freeze
Dabo Swinney
Mack Brown
Dave Clawson
Mike Elko
Dave Doeren
Pat Narduzzi
David Aranda
Mike Campbell
Lance Leipold
Kris Klieman
Mike Gundy
Sonny Dykes
Jim Harbaugh
PJ Fleck
Ryan Day
James Franklin
Ryan Day
Luke Fickell
Mike Houston
Gus Malzahn
Jeff Traylor
Troy Calhoun
Chip Kelly
Lincoln Riley
Shawn Clark
Jamey Chadwell
Curt Cignetti
This post was edited on 11/5/22 at 4:58 pm
Posted on 11/5/22 at 5:11 pm to Dr RC
Kevin Sumlin
Posted on 11/5/22 at 5:14 pm to Dr RC
Given the talent based purely on recruiting rankings the last 3-4 years… don’t see how any other coaches would be worse.
Hogs gifted us or we are sitting on 2 wins. Laughable.
LSU going to beat the brakes off A&M. Going to be ugly. They will be playing for a better bowl. Ags will be just trying to get out and put the season behind.
Hogs gifted us or we are sitting on 2 wins. Laughable.
LSU going to beat the brakes off A&M. Going to be ugly. They will be playing for a better bowl. Ags will be just trying to get out and put the season behind.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 5:27 pm to Dr RC
It is pretty inexcusable to take the 4 or 5th most talent on a roster and have a losing season. That is inexcusable. I 100% agree with you.
You making a list is pretty dumb though, yes many of the teams of the coaches you listed would be us this year. Being better in one year doesn’t make another coach better than jimbo. You’ve got Sam pitman listed, the guy lost to this crappy team and is losing to Liberty right now, he’s not a better coach than jimbo. Don’t let your hate blind common sense.
You making a list is pretty dumb though, yes many of the teams of the coaches you listed would be us this year. Being better in one year doesn’t make another coach better than jimbo. You’ve got Sam pitman listed, the guy lost to this crappy team and is losing to Liberty right now, he’s not a better coach than jimbo. Don’t let your hate blind common sense.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 5:51 pm to Texas Gentleman
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You’ve got Sam pitman listed, the guy lost to this crappy team and is losing to Liberty right now, he’s not a better coach than jimbo.
Liberty is coached by Hugh Freeze who is a top tier coach undone by his love of hookers. If you are surprised at Liberty being up on Arky you don't pay attention to CFB as a whole.
No sorry, Pittman is a better coach. He's in a tougher place to win and has them on their way up. Jimbo had the world handed to him on a platter and is burning down our program right now.
Posted on 11/5/22 at 5:55 pm to Dr RC
Fisher wouldn’t be terrible if he would allow his coordinators to do their job. That’ll never happen though 
Posted on 11/6/22 at 10:45 am to Texas Gentleman
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Don’t let your hate blind common sense.
No blind hate. It's just true. He's not a good coach. He sucks as an OC and that is supposed to be his strength. He isn't a good manager, he isn't a good OC, he isn't a good QB coach. The only thing he does well is recruit and that means jack shite on gameday b/c he can't develop or utilize the talent he brings in.
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Stewart Mandel
@slmandel
Fun Jimbo Fisher facts from my Final Thoughts column (courtesy @MattBrownCFB)
- Texas A&M will likely be the first preseason top-6 team to finish below .500 since 2010.
-- Three of the last five preseason top-6 teams to finish unranked are Jimbo teams.
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So that's now 3 teams that started top 6 Jimbo will coach to being unranked. 2 of those were at A&M w/this year and last. The other his last year at FSU. So now that's 3 of his last 6 years that his team had the talent to be considering a top 10 squad by nearly every single CFB expert yet he finished unranked.
The fact that Jimbo is in year 5 w/these results despite the recruiting classes consistently being top 10 is a clear indication that the game has passed him by.
At this point is he even a better coach than a Terry Price type who is mostly around for recruiting? This is sadly now a legitimate question.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 10:52 am
Posted on 11/6/22 at 12:42 pm to HoboDickCheese
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Fisher wouldn’t be terrible if he would allow his coordinators to do their job.
How do you know? One thing I’ve noticed about Jimbo is he doesn’t seem well respected by his players across the board. Doesn’t seem to have a great personal connection with his team. I haven’t noticed anything that would make me think it would be much different if he allowed an OC to do his thing.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 12:46 pm to Dr RC
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game has passed him by.
I keep seeing this, but I haven’t seen evidence that he ever had a solid grasp on football. His noteworthy offenses were based on world class individual qb talent, not a good scheme.
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:16 pm to Masterag
That's very possible as it really looks more and more like Jimbo was getting by on the fact that half the ACC cares frick all about football. He had a huge advantage at FSU b/c of how much more money they put into the football compared the rest of the ACC.
Here are the numbers from 2017
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What's interesting about this is the national rank is in parenthesis. Apparently at that point only Bama spent more on football than FSU... and he was still complaining. So... was all that noise about FSU being cheap actually real or was that part of of a smokescreen Jimbo's agent put out to justify the breakup after they rightly refused to keep giving him raises? Even if FSU was falling behind some of the bigger schools nationally they were still at worst even/slightly behind Clemson but to Jimbo that wasn't enough commitment. Like what more does this dude need to be successful?
Here are the numbers from 2017
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Florida State (No.2): $42.46 million
Notre Dame* (No. 4): $38.97 million
Clemson (No. 10): $34.67 million
Virginia Tech (No. 16): $31.15 million
Miami (No. 25): $28.47 million
Duke (No. 36): $23.47 million
North Carolina (No. 37): $23.46 million
Louisville (No. 38): $23.43 million
Syracuse (No. 39): $23.22 million
Pittsburgh (No. 40): $23.13 million
Boston College (No. 48): $21.35 million
Virginia (No. 51): $20.33 million
NC State (No. 54): $19.19 million
Georgia Tech (No. 61): $17.38 million
Wake Forest (No. 63): $16.61 million
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What's interesting about this is the national rank is in parenthesis. Apparently at that point only Bama spent more on football than FSU... and he was still complaining. So... was all that noise about FSU being cheap actually real or was that part of of a smokescreen Jimbo's agent put out to justify the breakup after they rightly refused to keep giving him raises? Even if FSU was falling behind some of the bigger schools nationally they were still at worst even/slightly behind Clemson but to Jimbo that wasn't enough commitment. Like what more does this dude need to be successful?
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 11/6/22 at 2:40 pm to Dr RC
I don’t think Jimbo is a horrible coach, I think he’s overestimated his scheme and play calling abilities. I think he has way too many responsibilities that he’s trying to juggle at once. He’s trying to call a play, talk to the QB, get the right personnel on the field and manage the clock all at the same time. That’s why we always seem to get the play in so late or burn stupid timeouts. He needs to do 3 things this off-season to show that he actually still gives a shite
1) Go get an OC and make it crystal clear to everyone he’s calling plays
2) hit the portal: OL, LB and probably gonna need a QB for some depth
3) probably need to move on from Durkin (maybe Addazio too)
Jimbo is a fantastic recruiter and I think he can do great as a CEO coach but he seems to want to do everything himself and clearly he can’t. Hope he has the self awareness to make the necessary changes before running this thing completely into the ground for the next 3 years
1) Go get an OC and make it crystal clear to everyone he’s calling plays
2) hit the portal: OL, LB and probably gonna need a QB for some depth
3) probably need to move on from Durkin (maybe Addazio too)
Jimbo is a fantastic recruiter and I think he can do great as a CEO coach but he seems to want to do everything himself and clearly he can’t. Hope he has the self awareness to make the necessary changes before running this thing completely into the ground for the next 3 years
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 2:43 pm
Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:28 pm to Ag_16
I guess if there is a positive to take away from this season it’s that the freshman class has been everything we’d hoped for. They’re getting plenty of experience this season as well
Posted on 11/6/22 at 5:58 pm to Ag_16
We are not getting rid of Jimbo in the next 3-4 years, it’s just a brutal reality we’ll all need to come to terms with. Hopefully he hires and accepts the play calling of a talented OC. But reality is that Hope ditched Georgia and menacingly latched on to us as our annual tormentor/companion for the next 4 years at least
Posted on 11/6/22 at 6:18 pm to Old Sarge
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We are not getting rid of Jimbo in the next 3-4 years, it’s just a brutal reality we’ll all need to come to terms with.
You are probably correct. I can't imagine his team will be this bad next year. He's gotten out-coached at least once and more by all the new coaches in the SEC that we play. But if for some reason the Aggies suck next year like this year I doubt he can make it to 2024. It will depend on whether the roster hangs together and if he can find recruits. If that goes away, .........
Posted on 11/6/22 at 6:22 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
If Fisher sucks next year as well, he will be gone. He loses Conner, and he will be gone. We have to pay him anyway, so a lot of donors are looking at pulling the cord
Another terrible season will do it
Another terrible season will do it
Posted on 11/7/22 at 1:59 pm to Ag_16
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maybe Addazio too
Maybe?! THAT'S THE FIRST DUDE THAT HAS TO GO! I know people love to rag on Jimbo's offense. But if you really look into it, about half of the problems are due to shitty offensive line play. So many plays have been screwed up because of the offensive line not blocking correctly or being too fricking slow.
Go see if Matt Luke wants to come back to coaching. And hit the transfer portal for some OL (go raid Wisconsin's roster). Use NIL to lure them in if we have to (we are already vilified for doing it to HS recruits...may as well embrace it on the transfer portal).
OL is what is going to make or break us.
As far as DJ Durkin, I'm not sure if he needs his own staff. It is so frustrating to see all those 5* DL stand on the sideline as the moron runs a 3 man front. Use them! Truth be told, I wouldn't shed a tear to see him go. I'd be totally fine with bringing Derek Mason back to the SEC.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 2:08 pm to Texas Weazel
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I'd be totally fine with bringing Derek Mason back to the SEC.
Oklahoma State has gone from 5th best yards per play allowed in the nation last year under Jim Knowles , to 101st in the nation in their first year under Mason.
If that is good enough for you, just keep Durkin.
Posted on 11/7/22 at 3:58 pm to NanosTacoRun
And the sad part of the whole thing is, the dipshits at the top of the program were so scared to lose Jimbo to LSU they signed him to an absolutely ridiculous contract after a mediocre season (at best). Now you basically have to hope he self evaluates and fixes the issues. But how likely is that? It really feels like we’ve reached the point of no return and we basically have to suffer through at least 3 more years of him as the HC. He could 100% turn it around, it’s possible, but likely? I doubt it.
Side note: I don’t remember which thread it was asking who you’d like as HC if Jimbo were gone, I change my vote to Matt Rhule
Side note: I don’t remember which thread it was asking who you’d like as HC if Jimbo were gone, I change my vote to Matt Rhule
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