re: Guys coming back?

This is just me reading between the lines, but I think the tea leaves are that McCollum is prolly gone, but we have a chance with the other three. Billy said he would be "shocked" if we got all three, but he expects one or maybe two to stay. If we can get Hocker (who I think is the favorite to stay) and one of the tackles, that's a huge win.

In your opinion, what do the lines look like if Hocker, Moore and Green all return, just Moore and Hocker and just Hocker?

My take:

All 3

LT - Moore
LG - K. Green
C - Robinson
RG - Hocker
RT - C. Green

Moore and Hocker

LT - Moore
LG - Hocker
C - Matthews
RG - Robinson
RT - K. Green

Just Hocker

LT - K. Green
LG - Robinson
C - Matthews
RG - Hocker
RT - Trainor

None

LT - K. Green
LG - Robinson
C - Matthews
RG - Ogunbiyi
RT - Trainor

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won't lose you games

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You seem to define "not lose you games" by "screwing up so badly you hand the game to the other team," but missing open receivers, failing to see open receivers, waiting too long to run, burning timeouts, ... also lose games.

Has he imrpoved? Yes, but I would expect any QB to improve if started 4 years. We've seen his ceiling and I am ready for someone with a higher ceiling.

It has nothing to do with race, hurt feelings, how hard he worked or how hard he tried. I want someone who can consistently see and hit open receivers. I want someone with emotion, passion, energy, and positive body language on the field.

I didn't like his off-field antics, but I have plenty of on-field reasons to want to move on to a new QB. Even fans from other teams comment Mond is holding us back. Frankly, I'm surprised so many are defending his play and downvoting anyone who is ready to move on.

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You seem to define "not lose you games" by "screwing up so badly you hand the game to the other team," but missing open receivers, failing to see open receivers, waiting too long to run, burning timeouts, ... also lose games.

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He won 8 in a row, 7 by double digits. I don't think you understand what "loses games"

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He won 8 in a row, 7 by double digits. I don't think you understand what "loses games"

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I think you missed the point or else you're trolling.

Plus, he did not win 8 in a row. The team won 8 in a row.

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You seem to define "not lose you games" by "screwing up so badly you hand the game to the other team," but missing open receivers, failing to see open receivers, waiting too long to run, burning timeouts, ... also lose games.

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The first part is pretty clearly what most people mean by "losing you games." I'm NOT saying he's flawless. I *am* saying he's a gamer. Which is all you can ask of someone who has a ceiling that is a cut below truly elite. Going back to the Texas Bowl, how many times did he answer the call/counter right back when we needed a key drive? He did it vs. oSu. Obviously went toe to toe with Trask during the UF game (yes, the Maroon Goons had their coming out party, as well, but early in that game, he was having to sling it just to keep us in it). Answered right back after that fluky pick 6 in Starkville. Answered right back after Arkansas and UT opened up the scoring against us. Tossed a dime to Smith late on the road vs. Auburn. Tied the game up vs. UNC with his legs when the game was on the line and we never looked back.

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Has he imrpoved? Yes, but I would expect any QB to improve if started 4 years. We've seen his ceiling and I am ready for someone with a higher ceiling.

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I've literally said I'm ready for him to pass the baton. Just trying to provide some perspective for some of the nonsense talking about he's terrible. I'm not out here talking about "#HeisMond" or anything crazy like that, nor do I think he should return or that he'd make a quantum leap with another year under center for us. Again, for a Sumlin recruit who didn't win his own QB competition and stayed the starter through a major coaching change, he's performed as well as can be expected for a 4th year player. Kudos/thanks are in order. As is a changing of the guard at QB.

Moms has improved every year under jimbo and was a pretty solid game manager this year for us. We’d probably be a contender with him next year if a few things fall right with the OL. We are a power running team first and foremost with a three-deep that would start at every SEC school.

But I’m ready for King. It’s time.

I agree. But he has improved in stats that jimbo cares about. You also have to consider that he played a reduced all-SEC schedule this year and recorded his best stats of all.

INT
17 - 6
18 - 9
19 - 9
20 - 3

Completion %
17 - 51.5%
18 - 57.3%
19 - 61.6%
20 - 63.3%

Pass TD
17 - 8
18 - 24
19 - 20
20 - 19 (reduced all-SEC schedule)

Yards per completion
17 - 6.1
18 - 7.5
19 - 6.9
20 - 7.7

3rd down conversion %
17 - 38.05%
18 - 41.18%
19 - 40%
20 - 54.89% (#3 nationally)

I’m just saying the guy is a game manager through and through and if that’s what Jimbo says he needs to win then frick it who am I to say shite.

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Matthews has been around and he is a Matthews,

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He is the value brand version.

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For all we know, he could take the step from good to great next year, if he returned

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Mond is not going to get any better with another year, he’s at his ceiling. I think his “improvement” this year is mainly due to a better offensive line and running game, not actually better passing mechanics, field vision, etc.

Saw someone else mention, he’s a game manager now that he’s mostly eliminated his turnovers and I agree with that take. There are very few teams in college football outside of Alabama that can win a natty with a “game manager” QB (and even they haven’t had one in awhile since the likes of AJ Mccaron). We need a great/electric QB. Mond just isn’t that.

I do appreciate the games he’s won, but I’d like to see some fresh blood at this point and take our chances on the next generation QB.