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re: "...you may see the day where players don't have to go to school. I think that's coming."
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:30 pm to Gen Patton
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:30 pm to Gen Patton
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Did they ever "go to school" in the first place?
Right. When I was an undergraduate at UK I had a couple of classes with basketball players. I was excited that I would possibly get to talk with them. They never showed for a single class.
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Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:33 pm to paperwasp
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may see a day where players don't have to go to school
That doesn’t really make sense…you’ll always have to be enrolled in the school you play for. As far as getting an education…the SEC starters can do as little as they want now.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:47 pm to Havoc
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How would that even work? Create an entire minor league FB system that does not involve the universities? How much will these guys get paid playing for some bland minor league team? Would a geographical proximity to the universities even exist? “Effective 1/1/2027 the LSU Tigers football team will change to the Baton Rouge Tigers with no affiliation to the university”? It certainly feels like things are going to lead somewhere very different, but the alternative would be a quagmire.
I won’t be surprised if there is eventually NFL minor league.
Teams would be regional and would draft high school players within their region but in 2 or 3 years the parent NFL team could call them up to the NFL or trade them.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:50 pm to paperwasp
Yeah the charade is over. They are basically professional athletes hired by the school to play sports. They are no more students than the coaching staff are.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:51 pm to John Milner
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Teams would be regional and would draft high school players within their region
To be competitive, there would be 1 team in the entire Western U.S., 3 teams in the NE quadrant, and 12 teams in the SE quadrant. Regional?
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:52 pm to paperwasp
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.you may see the day where players don't have to go to school. I think that's coming."
This was true for Joe Cribbs and James Brooks in the 80s
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:53 pm to ArabianKnight
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Joe Cribbs
His carwash was awesome tho
Posted on 7/9/25 at 3:56 pm to StansberryRules
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Yeah the charade is over. They are basically professional athletes hired by the school to play sports.
Alumni will be the first to go. T-shirts will keep it hanging around for awhile, but the flame will burn out.
Deep in my being, I already feel myself losing passion for something I loved so dearly for decades. I can't force myself to overcome it. In my heart of hearts, I have no connection to a bunch of hired hands wearing my school's colors.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:02 pm to SoFla Tideroller
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You'll have 32 yr old "college" football players.
Like Chris Weinke?
Not 32, but to your point.
The one-and-done bball players never even made an effort at pretending they were going to class.
It's admirable that some kids do all that work AND take advantage of the educational opportunities afforded them...but that's not all of them.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:15 pm to paperwasp
The problem is fans of college football pay a lot of money for, in part and at the very least, the fantasy that these guys go to their school. Consumers pay for the fantasy, even if it is completely unrealistic.
If you completely rip the student-athlete fantasy away 100%, the premium the consumer is willing to pay for that fantasy is going to go away completely. They turn into minor league players and how many fans are going to spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to go to see minor league sports?
How many people are going to watch minor league football when everyone knows it is minor league football?
If you completely rip the student-athlete fantasy away 100%, the premium the consumer is willing to pay for that fantasy is going to go away completely. They turn into minor league players and how many fans are going to spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to go to see minor league sports?
How many people are going to watch minor league football when everyone knows it is minor league football?
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:23 pm to Kentucker
People concentrate too much on the 2 big sports -football and MBB. There are thousands of minor sports athletes every year who do it the right way and take advantage of college athletic scholarships and the educational opportunities that the system provides. When the 2 big sports go under - and I think it’s all but inevitable - the rest of the intercollegiate athletic system disappears. That’s the tragedy all the do-gooders and race-baiters will never own up to.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:24 pm to PeleofAnalytics
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If you completely rip the student-athlete fantasy away 100%, the premium the consumer is willing to pay for that fantasy is going to go away completely. They turn into minor league players and how many fans are going to spend tens of thousands of dollars a year to go to see minor league sports?
Let the 4-5 star types go to the NFL minor league. I'd still prefer watching 1-2 star types suit up for the school they attend and want to play for. I don't give a shite about seeing the best athletes play college football, I give a shite about watching Alabama play Tennessee, Ole Miss play LSU, Auburn play Georgia, etc.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:34 pm to paperwasp
I would probably be out if that happens.
We already have the NFL.
We already have the NFL.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 4:53 pm to ArabianKnight
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This was true for Joe Cribbs and James Brooks in the 80s
Be careful.
Glass houses abound in this league.
I’m sure there were more than a few mighty Crimson Tide players who might have got into school with less than stellar academic records.
Alabama has had some great students over the years. Bernie Madoff attended the Capstone.
Heavens Gate cult leader Marshall Applewhite, the cult’s guru, was a former music teacher at the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa.
I’m sure these don’t reflect the many fine people who have studied and taught at the Capstone.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:02 pm to paperwasp
I think they’ve already jumped the shark.
Win the playoff or nothing matters.
I used to plan fall weekends around Auburn football and watched most SEC games on TV every week.
I don’t think people consider a hot aluminum bench a premium experience.
The pageantry is dying. Piped in rap instead of the marching band. Players change teams several times during 5 years. Coaches are multimillionaires. The crowd is herded through metal detectors. Tailgating has turned into picnic planned by Stepford-wives. Everything is monetized. Parking. Food. Tickets. Whatever they can think of next they will continue trying to extract more and more money.
I quit season tickets years ago and have not been to a stadium since 2019.
I don’t miss it because it is so different that “I can’t go home again” (paraphrasing TW)
Win the playoff or nothing matters.
I used to plan fall weekends around Auburn football and watched most SEC games on TV every week.
I don’t think people consider a hot aluminum bench a premium experience.
The pageantry is dying. Piped in rap instead of the marching band. Players change teams several times during 5 years. Coaches are multimillionaires. The crowd is herded through metal detectors. Tailgating has turned into picnic planned by Stepford-wives. Everything is monetized. Parking. Food. Tickets. Whatever they can think of next they will continue trying to extract more and more money.
I quit season tickets years ago and have not been to a stadium since 2019.
I don’t miss it because it is so different that “I can’t go home again” (paraphrasing TW)
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:18 pm to makersmark1
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I used to plan fall weekends around Auburn football and watched most SEC games on TV every week.
First it was the NFL about 10 years ago for me. Started spending Sundays bow hunting or doing something else outside. Don't miss it at all.
I'm starting to do more outdoor activities on Saturdays now instead of spending all day watching college football in the fall.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:22 pm to paperwasp
Image a real college league with walk on players who just love the game…sounds pretty fun to watch
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:47 pm to paperwasp
If some of the players want to skip an education then maybe a place can be provided for them, if there is enough of them. The smarter ones, which are the ones who are most wanted anyway, can go the college route and be better for it. No big loss for college football at all.
There are requirements that have to be met by athletes at universities whether we believe it or not and plenty of help and tutoring is given to those who need it and they benefit from it. And society benefits by showing these kids an opportunity to move ahead without sports.
There are plenty of former players out there who have benefited from the college experience without going pro.
I won’t paint them all with one broad brush due to a group of bad apples.
There are requirements that have to be met by athletes at universities whether we believe it or not and plenty of help and tutoring is given to those who need it and they benefit from it. And society benefits by showing these kids an opportunity to move ahead without sports.
There are plenty of former players out there who have benefited from the college experience without going pro.
I won’t paint them all with one broad brush due to a group of bad apples.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:51 pm to bigDgator
Basketball too. I know you can’t technically go straight from HS to the league anymore but players can still opt to play for G-League ignite. This needs to happen in football ASAP.
Posted on 7/9/25 at 5:54 pm to makersmark1
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The pageantry is dying. Piped in rap instead of the marching band. Players change teams several times during 5 years. Coaches are multimillionaires. The crowd is herded through metal detectors. Tailgating has turned into picnic planned by Stepford-wives. Everything is monetized. Parking. Food. Tickets. Whatever they can think of next they will continue trying to extract more and more money.
+1
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