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Yahoo Sports Claims Cancelling Football is about Union Busting

Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:40 am
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
7510 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:40 am
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There is probably some truth in this although I still want football.
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7910 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:43 am to
They're unionizing because their failing leaders are cancelling their season. As they should.
Posted by parrothead
big salty ham
Member since Mar 2010
4447 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:44 am to
One step closer to a D league forming. College football may still exist but would be a shell of its former self.
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72195 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:45 am to
The autonomous movements in those conferences scared leadership. They just used the liability of coronavirus as an excuse. And guised as player safety.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51294 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:48 am to
I mean, I think the heart defect thing is a convenient cover that the Big 10 is using.
Posted by Prof
Member since Jun 2013
42645 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:55 am to
It's a well-known tactic in the corporate world but I really don't think the threat of player organization motivated the b10. It might've motivated the PAC12 but there's something else going on in the B1G and probably has a lot to do with the crowds and various social distancing laws/regulations being enforced in the states colleges are located in. If schools can't bring in crowds then football is a huge loss that a lot of ADs can't just absorb even amongst the p5.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95341 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 7:56 am to
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I mean, I think the heart defect thing is a convenient cover that the Big 10 is using.

So the big says they have players with the heart defect caused by covid

However, the Big hasn’t cancelled the same practices they have been doing all along that according to them could have caused the players to get covid and the heart defect

We 100% know they didn’t get covid or the heart defect from playing football games, yet they cancelled that.....
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 7:58 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32254 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:05 am to
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They're unionizing because their failing leaders are cancelling their season. As they should.
I think you have the tail wagging the dog; as in have it backwards.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3898 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:06 am to
I could tell you the real reason they are cancelling, but Chicken asked that we move that type of conversation to the Political Board.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5072 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:08 am to
Honestly there isn't much that has changed since a month ago that should precipitate cancelation other than unionization talk.

Problem is if they lose all revenue this season they'll bee in an even worse bargaining position next season. I know they want to maintain the facade of amateurish, but that cat's already out of the bag. Canceling just isn't the best option.

From the player's perspective as well. Their power before a reduced revenue season when colleges have a very good excuse to cancel is significantly weaker than it would be in the period after that season with the threat of ailing programs losing full revenue in 2021.

1. Player's should agree to a liability waiver.

2. College should agree to cover any long term health costs associated with playing this season and extend 1 season of eligibility for those who opt out.

3. Unionization talk should be tabled for a season.
Posted by Eat Your Crow
caught beneath the landslide
Member since May 2017
9190 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 8:48 am to
Yeah this is going to result in a "Premier League" of college football.

Most of the SEC, Clemson, Notre Dame, Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio State, maybe Southern Cal, Oregon, Nebraska, etc.

Basically all the schools willing to spend the money to compete.
Posted by Auburn80
Backwater, TN
Member since Nov 2017
7516 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:00 am to
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Despite this, the mostly white NCAA, college athletics directors and coaches have required the majority Black workforce to soldier on for the last several months.


Surprised BLM hasn’t jumped on this. College football as we know it is dying.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
47824 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:02 am to
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One step closer to a D league forming. College football may still exist but would be a shell of its former self.


if it meant getting some of the corruption out of college athletics and getting back to more pure amateurism, I'd be for it.
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14778 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:03 am to
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One step closer to a D league forming. College football may exist but would be a shell of its former self.


Sort of like college basketball when all the HS All-Americans like Kobe, Garnett and Bron etc.. all were eligible to jump ship straight from HS to the pros.

Or more accurately, like college baseball right now. Still watchable, still develops future pros, but not producing as many next-level prospects as it could be.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:05 am to
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College football as we know it is dying.



And for the same reason American society is. Self-inflicted wounds.

Had it too good but that wasn’t enough.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:10 am to
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Still watchable, still develops future pros, but not producing as many next-level prospects as it could be.



This is a good comparison only that football has no where near the minor league infrastructure and demand to get a viable minor league going. The XFL hasn’t been able to get off the ground.

People vastly underestimate the appeal of alumni/state pride/branding associated with college. Just the logo on the helmet sells tickets. It’s not all about watching future pros.

And there’s a trend of more and more talent coming to college baseball because the realization of getting a free education and the college experience for athletes ain’t that fricking bad.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6772 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:24 am to
There may be some truth to this claims, there may not be. Either way, those writers in no way make a compelling argument supporting their case. It's all opinions supported by little evidence beyond conjecture.

ETA: As for my opinion, I would argue that cancellations are almost entirely based on perceived liability, not the actual health concerns themselves.
This post was edited on 8/12/20 at 9:27 am
Posted by LSUFreek
Greater New Orleans
Member since Jan 2007
14778 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:32 am to
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only that football has no where near the minor league infrastructure

And add-on, the majority of HS football kids are not physically mature enough, or filled out, to compete with college upperclassmen, much less minor-League veteran grown men who have been waiting years on a call to the Bigs.

You can get away with that more in lesser contact sports.
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:32 am to
SO Monday when the players all came out wanting to play the media and fans took heart that it was proof that the players union thing was simply a few malcontents. What no one discussed was the things the players were asking for...among them no loss of eligibility whether they played this year or not and, most importantly, recognition of a players representative. That little tidbit was never mentioned except in passing but it is the exact same thing the players union malcontents are on about. This is going to happen. The players are done financing Lacrosse with their labor....and they should be. CFB players are predominantly black men....when the realization that their labor is being used to support women's swim teams, almost all white women, settles into the mind of the public the players union is a done deal. There is simply no way major sponsors are going to be tied at the hip to a system which requires black men to play in a violent sport to financially support women's equestrian teams....especially when coupled with the fact that the vast majority of those black men spend 3-4 years working very hard to finance the gymnastics team only to find themselves with no future in the NFL, no degree and basically unemployable and with a body ravaged from playing football at a high level. They are gonna be paid, either by CFB or by a NFL developmental league...the market is there, the capital is there and the labor is there...its only a matter of time....
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 8/12/20 at 9:38 am to
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One step closer to a D league forming. College football may still exist but would be a shell of its former self.


Only a matter of time....the market exists, the capital exists and the labor force exists...only an artificial barrier could keep the free market from exerting its will and that barrier is eroding quickly.
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