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WTF ever happened to short down chain measurements?
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:43 pm
Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:43 pm
It used to happen a couple of times in almost every game. There was that famous index card game not that long time ago (last 20 years), but it’s unreal how this part just almost disappeared. It’s decline seems to correlate with the superimposed first down line that we all see on broadcasts, but that’s never been available to ref crews. Is that not weird? You see it, but it’s as if the refs are just like “fuggit, close enough”.
Oh yeah…
Oh yeah…
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Posted on 1/4/24 at 11:51 pm to Shamoan
I will never understand how this one was "explained away" and allowed to pass into the night.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:00 am to kilo
Has he ever been named I wonder?
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:07 am to kilo
If it would have happened, world war 3 blasts off and we're all bunker'd..
Now whattya do???
*Patrix Peterson was inbounds!!!!*
Am I getting this right??
Now whattya do???
*Patrix Peterson was inbounds!!!!*
Am I getting this right??
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:07 am to Shamoan
Didn’t they start marking the ball after first downs at an actual yard line so it’s a lot easier to exactly know what the following first down was without chains? (Except for in late game situations?)
I may be wrong but I thought they started doing this after first downs.
I may be wrong but I thought they started doing this after first downs.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 12:14 am
Posted on 1/5/24 at 12:52 am to kilo
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I will never understand how this one was "explained away"
Opponent was Ole Miss so it was considered acceptable.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:09 am to Shamoan
I thought digital/graphics improvements had allowed the reviewers to note specifically on screen.
If we really wanted accurate football, we would have sensors/materials in the ball, especially just under the surface at ends, that would allow us to detect the ball's exact position at any frame of recording. Even when the ball wasn't visible because of players' bodies.
If we really wanted accurate football, we would have sensors/materials in the ball, especially just under the surface at ends, that would allow us to detect the ball's exact position at any frame of recording. Even when the ball wasn't visible because of players' bodies.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 1:47 am to kilo
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I will never understand how this one was "explained away" and allowed to pass into the night.
The spot was good, probably a little behind where it should have been. If you watch the play he was well beyond 1st down, just a bad first spot by the ref.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 4:21 am to Shamoan
Dr Pepper probably bought the rights so they could show more commercials.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 5:10 am to johnzorback
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The spot was good
lmao
Posted on 1/5/24 at 5:34 am to deputyfife
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If we really wanted accurate football, we would have sensors/materials in the ball, especially just under the surface at ends, that would allow us to detect the ball's exact position at any frame of recording. Even when the ball wasn't visible because of players' bodies.
I've never understood why we havent done this....
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:11 am to im4LSU
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I've never understood why we havent done this..
Because they found out that Michigan had hacked the devises in the ball and were able to send false signals to their advantage.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:14 am to Shamoan
They just look at the yellow line on the field. If we can clearly see it, why can't the refs?
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 6:15 am
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:20 am to im4LSU
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I've never understood why we havent done this....
We have. In the NFL they have RFID chips in the balls and in all the players pads, they can track the players, balls and all sorts of things throughout the game. If you go to a NFL game and look at the very top of the stadium you will see large RFID arrays the blast the field throughout the game.
Point is the tech is there, in all NFL stadiums and the larger colleges are looking at it now. With that said the on feild refs get no benefit from it, it’s mostly used for data/analytics, performance of players and for broadcasting graphics.
At the end of the day you don’t see many of the short yardage measurements because the game has vastly changed over the past 5 to 10 years. It’s a passing game, large yardage plays.. it’s not a game of inches anymore but rather a game of yards. Getting to 4th down is less about runners trying to get a first down and more about passers having 3 chances to complete passes.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:27 am to Shamoan
Spots are so horrible anymore, and it's safe to assume that some (like the GIF) are egregiously intentional.
Without some tech integrated into the field and ball to pinpoint the nose of the ball position, there will always be human error.
Without some tech integrated into the field and ball to pinpoint the nose of the ball position, there will always be human error.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 6:37 am to deputyfife
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we would have sensors/materials in the ball,
Pretty sure that I read/saw somewhere recently that they have had microchips in the ball for a few years now.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:21 am to Shamoan
add them to the 'removed from the game due to player safety' list ...
the very next snap of the ball -
the very next snap of the ball -
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:24 am to 1801
One of my all-time favorite sequences.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:29 am to Shamoan
The referees will almost always mark the ball on a yard line after a first down so measurement is just not needed. I don't know exactly when they started doing that but I've noticed it at least the last couple years.
Posted on 1/5/24 at 7:43 am to Lizardman2
Exhibit A
UH was down 31-24 with like a minute left in the game here.
UH was down 31-24 with like a minute left in the game here.
This post was edited on 1/5/24 at 7:44 am
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