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re: Wow...Gameday trashing Indiana

Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:58 am to
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
33466 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 9:58 am to
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RollTide4Ever


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make it 8-12 teams depending on circumstances as deemed by committee.


aka however many it takes to get bama in amirite?
Posted by Maurice42223
Member since Jan 2024
28 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:02 am to
The teams that they beat have to matter. Not just the number of win
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
56895 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:05 am to
They played a big 10 schedule what else were they supposed to do?
Posted by YankeeHandle
St. Louis
Member since Nov 2014
1615 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:07 am to
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The real question is how to fix it?


Bring back the BCS rankings and call them the BPS rankings. Remove the committee. The BCS was pretty accurate from what I remember.
Posted by zdfger
Member since Dec 2020
476 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:10 am to
You realize schedules are made years in advance right. FSU TAM USC and sometime Louisville are perennial top 25 teams . FSU and USCW just happen to be in a down cycle. Army and Navy were both top 25 when ND played them. GT was also decent. Throw in IU. You can only play your schedule and ND beat em all by like an average of 30 points. You’re gonna keep ND out because of that? Come on
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19180 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:12 am to
Always on your mind.....
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
4927 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:19 am to
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You realize schedules are made years in advance right. FSU TAM USC and sometime Louisville are perennial top 25 teams . FSU and USCW just happen to be in a down cycle. Army and Navy were both top 25 when ND played them. GT was also decent. Throw in IU. You can only play your schedule and ND beat em all by like an average of 30 points. You’re gonna keep ND out because of that? Come on


ND was tied with an 8-4 SEC team in 4th Q, and that was the 1st game of the season (i.e. not after ND had played a hard schedule and having injuries when most people played A&M). They then proceeded to lose to a MAC team…and not just any MAC team, one with 5 losses!!! No, they didn’t beat them all by an average of 30 points. ND is 8-4 at best with Bama, FL, UGA, or OK’s schedule…and SMU, Indiana, Boise and AZ st would be even worse
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 10:21 am
Posted by zdfger
Member since Dec 2020
476 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:26 am to
So no SEC teams have bad losses? Maybe you’re right maybe not. Let’s see how the SEC does in the playoffs to see if your thesis is correct. Hopefully they have your back. If not a lot of y’all gonna be eating crow well into the new year
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
2697 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:29 am to
Scheduling is too uneven to simply use # of losses as the primary metric, yet they still do.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
22313 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:33 am to
Indiana QB was really bad when it mattered. That first interception at the ND 2 was inexcusable.
Posted by BamaBravesPackers
Member since Nov 2021
4927 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:40 am to
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So no SEC teams have bad losses?


NIU would be a 2-10 or 3-9 team in the SEC. Not even KY or Arkansas was that bad. No, the SEC doesn’t have any losses worse than NDs.

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Let’s see how the SEC does in the playoffs to see if your thesis is correct.


So the last 2 decades of absolute domination doesn’t mean anything, gotcha. Let’s judge it based on a year where the best SEC team just lost their starting QB, the “2nd best” team is a newcomer that beat nobody and had the softest SEC schedule in years, and the CFP committee sent the 3rd best SEC team on the road to OSU in a travesty of seeding (and I hate UT). Good call…I’m sure we can judge based on this year’s results, while ignoring all the evidence of the past and that most blue chip recruits or NFL draft picks play in the SEC. You’d fit right in on the CFP committee…congrats, I guess.
Posted by Mizz-SEC
Inbred Huntin' In The SEC
Member since Jun 2013
20930 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:40 am to
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Schools will have to schedule more difficult ooc games. The committee is going to have to reward it by not just looking at records and take a 2 or 3 loss team that played a difficult ooc schedule.

Until it happens and is stated by the committee why would a school willingly do it?
Posted by crimsonblazer
Member since Jul 2011
1439 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:44 am to
Like someone said it’s an invitational right now, the 12 best teams are not in. Evident last night and will be evident again today. Don’t leave it up to human error. Bring back some sort of formula like the BCS that calculates the most deserving 12 teams based on various metrics.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 10:46 am
Posted by Gator5220
Member since Aug 2010
4364 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 10:57 am to
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Until it happens and is stated by the committee why would a school willingly do it?

You are 100% correct. They would have to state it immediately after the end of this season so teams could make adjustments to their schedules.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
35416 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:01 am to
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The real question is how to fix it?


4-team BCS formula
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18257 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:08 am to
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The real question is how to fix it?


Go back to 4.

/thread
Posted by Kneehigh
Low Country
Member since Nov 2012
15560 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:11 am to
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So....how do you fix it?

You have to reward teams based on SOS and Quality wins vs # of wins vs horseshite competition. It’s not hard.
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 11:11 am
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
3084 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:14 am to
That about sums it up...it really has become an invitational. SMH
Posted by Lgrnwd
Member since Jan 2018
6840 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:15 am to
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Like someone said it’s an invitational right now, the 12 best teams are not in. Evident last night and will be evident again today. Don’t leave it up to human error. Bring back some sort of formula like the BCS that calculates the most deserving 12 teams based on various metrics.


You are right. The original BCS that heavily relied on computer models did do a good job. But in 2003 there was a huge uproar about USC getting left out, and many thought relying on computers was “stupid” because the “eye test” is so important. So that got scrapped for human polls once again

And not for nothing, but the human “eye test” metric is what put Alabama in over Florida State last year after their starting QB got hurt. The original BCS model would have favored FSU. But most media pundits who are complaining this year and obviously Alabama fans thought the humans got it “right” last year. Funny how that works
This post was edited on 12/21/24 at 11:16 am
Posted by CrimsonBoz
Member since Sep 2014
18547 posts
Posted on 12/21/24 at 11:22 am to
The real imposter was Indiana not SMU. They had everyone fooled on the committee.
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