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re: With Decent OLine Play, Auburn Will Win the SEC This Year

Posted on 5/20/18 at 7:20 am to
Posted by Dawgfanman
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 7:20 am to
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The reason why you blitzed up the middle is because our best pass blocking running back had a shoulder that was torn apart. He could barely holf on the football. Give the frat-douche-devil his due, but it had nothing to do with Stidham.


So your QBs reaction to blitzes has nothing to do with your QB? Didn’t you fools spend 2 weeks talking about how easy the SECC was gonna be?
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 7:23 am to
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The reason why you blitzed up the middle is because our best pass blocking running back had a shoulder that was torn apart. He could barely holf on the football. Give the frat-douche-devil his due, but it had nothing to do with Stidham.

Stidham was sacked 11 times verses Clemson, 7 times verses UGA in the SECCG, and 6 times verses UCF. I didn't even check the other games, but Stidham certainly did have a penchant for holding on to the ball and taking sacks. Maybe he learned and gets rid of the ball this year. Who knows? And we rushed the QB up the middle a lot last year, not just because you had a banged up RB.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:20 am to
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Stidham was sacked 11 times verses Clemson, 7 times verses UGA in the SECCG, and 6 times verses UCF. I didn't even check the other games, but Stidham certainly did have a penchant for holding on to the ball and taking sacks. Maybe he learned and gets rid of the ball this year. Who knows? And we rushed the QB up the middle a lot last year, not just because you had a banged up RB.


Didn't read this thread, but our OL was very average last season. There was a huge difference when KJ was running the ball and everyone else...he sort of runs like LT and sees holes on the jump cut most backs don't see at the same time causing the LB's and run support DB's to commit to the original hole. When healthy he hid the weakness of our team.

I would agree...if we get decent OL play we will be a serious threat to win the SEC. However, I believe we are a long way from decent OL play. I am optimistic that the talent exist this season in the guys that will play...last season we were playing guys who had a ton of experience but weren't talented at an elite or above average level.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:22 am
Posted by Rollo
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
427 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:30 am to
Try developing a capable back up next time, instead of runnning the one you have into the ground. Besides, it has nothing to do with Stidham missing a couple of wide open swing passes that would have hit for big gains beacuase he was wilting under the pressure

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The reason why you blitzed up the middle is because our best pass blocking running back had a shoulder that was torn apart. He could barely holf on the football. Give the frat-douche-devil his due, but it had nothing to do with Stidham.
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:37 am to
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Didn’t you fools spend 2 weeks talking about how easy the SECC was gonna be?


No one thought the SECCG was gonna be easy. But if Kerryon was healthy it would have been a different game. It just would have. Not only because we had no ability to grind out first downs without him but also because his pass blocking was extraordinary.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 9:39 am
Posted by TailbackU
ATL
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:38 am to
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Stidham was sacked 11 times verses Clemson, 7 times verses UGA in the SECCG, and 6 times verses UCF. I didn't even check the other games,


Notice that #21 didnt play in those games either.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:46 am to
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Notice that #21 didnt play in those games either.



False
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:48 am to
Pretty sure Bama, Georgia and Washington will be top ten teams, Miss St probably top 15.

Auburn will have to beat someone good on the road. Couldn't do it with a better team last year, doubt it will happen this year.

Again, thanks for making my point.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 9:53 am
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
22353 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:49 am to
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Notice that #21 didnt play in those games either.


Only missed one of those games. He was the leading ball carrier in the other two.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:46 am to
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Pretty sure Bama, Georgia and Washington will be top ten teams, Miss St probably top 15.

Auburn will have to beat someone good on the road. Couldn't do it with a better team last year, doubt it will happen this year.

Again, thanks for making my point.


They will have to beat a good team on the road, you pretty much have to every year. The fact that AU played good teams on the road close last year means they are capable. You forget the two teams in the finals last year had problems beating a good team on the road. Those two games were not really close, so your comment about AU sucking on the road proves you are a dumbass.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 11:23 am
Posted by Rollo
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
427 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 2:56 pm to
Your teams failure to have a qualified back up is not a valid excuse. Georgia was able to grind out the clock in the 4th quarter of the SEC championship game without Sony Michel and with Chubb only getting 1 carry. The rest of the 7 plus minute drive was carried out by mostly Herrien and Holyfield, with a little bit of Swift. You probably did not notice because we didn’t put all our eggs in one basket
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:36 pm to
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Didn't read this thread, but our OL was very average last season.


At times they looked very good, then other times very average, or below average.

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he sort of runs like LT and sees holes on the jump cut most backs don't see at the same time causing the LB's and run support DB's to commit to the original hole. When healthy he hid the weakness of our team.

He was a very patient runningback, in a good way. Once a hole opened up he hit the hole made great yardage. Patience is a rare trait in runningbacks, theses days and a trait more could use.

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I would agree...if we get decent OL play we will be a serious threat to win the SEC. However, I believe we are a long way from decent OL play.
Agree 100%. it can be done. Two years ago, our OLine play was below average, and last year t turned into a strength. So, it can be done.
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I am optimistic that the talent exist this season in the guys that will play...last season we were playing guys who had a ton of experience but weren't talented at an elite or above average level.
Very real possibility. Time will tell. As you said, your OLine play will be a huge key this year.


Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:38 pm to
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Try developing a capable back up next time, instead of runnning the one you have into the ground.

In fairness to Auburn Kerryon Johnson was the backup. Kam Pettway started the year and got hurt, then Johnson took over. Where Gus messed up, in my opinion, is not developing anyone behind Johnson, so when he got banged up he had no one else he trusted.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:41 pm to
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No one thought the SECCG was gonna be easy.

Really? Then you missed all the threads made by Auburn posters on this site and on the Auburn portion of the board leading up to the game. It really wouldn't take long for me to dig those up. I've done it before when some Auburn posters wanted to deny the overconfidence leading into the game.
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But if Kerryon was healthy it would have been a different game.
That depends on what you mean by different. he wasn't going to make a 21 point swing. And for some reason people want to forget the Players who got injured and missed time for Georgia in the game. Sony Michel for one, missed a good portion if not all of the 4th quarter.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:48 pm to
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Stidham was sacked 11 times verses Clemson, 7 times verses UGA in the SECCG, and 6 times verses UCF. I didn't even check the other games,
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Notice that #21 didnt play in those games either.

He didn't play against Clemson, granted, but he would have made the difference in 11 sacks? Doubtful. That was OLine play.

Stidham was also sacked 3 times against a decent LSU team....with Kerryon's stellar blocking in the game, and he had a month to recover for the UCF game, and he played. In fact, he carried the ball 22 plays, so forget that when he played great pass blocking followed, because that simply isn't true. he might very well have been a good pass blocker, but it is the OLine we were saying caused many of the sacks.

Regardless, when Stidham got pressure, he tended to hang on to the ball too long and took needless sacks.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 3:50 pm to
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They will have to beat a good team on the road, you pretty much have to every year. The fact that AU played good teams on the road close last year means they are capable. You forget the two teams in the finals last year had problems beating a good team on the road. Those two games were not really close, so your comment about AU sucking on the road proves you are a dumbass.


I actually agree with much of what you are saying, and yes we had trouble with Auburn on the road. However, we also played well on the road against Oklahoma, Notre Dame and Alabama. We looked like crap against Auburn, though.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:07 pm to
UGAs Defense played like shite on the road, and that is Kirby’s forte.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32872 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:11 pm to
It was the uga special teams more than anything that turned the first game into a blowout. This is proven by the fact that Auburn scored their first 3 tds right after ST errors.
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18399 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:22 pm to
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Your teams failure to have a qualified back up is not a valid excuse. Georgia was able to grind out the clock in the 4th quarter of the SEC championship game without Sony Michel and with Chubb only getting 1 carry. The rest of the 7 plus minute drive was carried out by mostly Herrien and Holyfield, with a little bit of Swift. You probably did not notice because we didn’t put all our eggs in one basket


Your comment has nothing to do with the conversation you’re jumping into.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
Albuquerque, NM
Member since Feb 2011
18385 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:30 pm to


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