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re: With Decent OLine Play, Auburn Will Win the SEC This Year

Posted on 5/20/18 at 7:36 pm to
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 7:36 pm to
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It was the uga special teams more than anything that turned the first game into a blowout. This is proven by the fact that Auburn scored their first 3 tds right after ST errors.




How does one play lead to 3 TDs. I am amazed at peoples lack of Football knowledge and their tendency to follow the crowd with an alibi. AU whipped UGA on both sides of the ball, and the muffed punt did not effect that.
Posted by Tigerman97
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:04 pm to
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In fairness to Auburn Kerryon Johnson was the backup. Kam Pettway started the year and got hurt, then Johnson took over. Where Gus messed up, in my opinion, is not developing anyone behind Johnson, so when he got banged up he had no one else he trusted.


Not that it matters that much, but KJ was the starter and pulled his hamstring severely in the 2nd quarter of the first game of the season. I might be wrong but I believe he had already rushed for 100 yards and had broke a long run when he got hurt.

Against Clemson the backup Kam played at about 90%, but was a liability in passing situations both as a receiver and as a blocker.

Against LSU KJ was back but was said to be 80%. In KJ's career we only saw him at 100% probably 8 games...injuries were an issue. When 100% healthy he made a very average OL look much better.

Auburn fans began hearing the coaches were searching for a 3rd back in summer ball. IMO it was a sign that one didn't exist. Unfortunately for us 1 and 2 also spent most of the year injured. Not hurt, but injured.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:06 pm
Posted by Farmer1906
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:05 pm to
I could see it.
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:14 pm to
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How does one play lead to 3 TDs. I am amazed at peoples lack of Football knowledge and their tendency to follow the crowd with an alibi. AU whipped UGA on both


One play? It was 3 major uga mistakes on special teams and each led to a td. You must not have Whatever football knowledge you think you have if you want to diminish those plays.
Posted by CivilTiger83
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:17 pm to
Auburn has the pieces to compete again for an SEC and national championship. Great QB, but will the rest of the pieces be good enough on offense? Its going to be tough, and I wouldn't look past Washington.

I wonder if overall D will be as good as the last two years. DL should be stout, but I haven't heard much about the secondary after losing Carlton Davis.
Posted by borotiger
Murfreesboro Tennessee
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:20 pm to
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Regardless, when Stidham got pressure, he tended to hang on to the ball too long and took needless sacks.


Absolutely true. He has a very good arm but played like a Freshman in many situations. I'm hopeful that this was due to being away from competitive football for a year. If there is no significant improvement this year I'll be worried. I'm optimistic now.
Posted by SAINTS0321
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:21 pm to
Not a snowball s chance in hell will the barn win 6 games
Posted by ColoBama
The Kayng of College Fusball, CO
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:26 pm to
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With Decent OLine Play, Auburn Will Win the SEC This Year



... and Bama (or maybe Georgia) will win the NC. What else is new?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:28 pm to
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How does one play lead to 3 TDs. I am amazed at peoples lack of Football knowledge and their tendency to follow the crowd with an alibi. AU whipped UGA on both


One play? It was 3 major uga mistakes on special teams and each led to a td. You must not have Whatever football knowledge you think you have if you want to diminish those plays.




What three plays and how long were the drives for TDs ? Reminder: Penalties are part of the game.

How many rushing yards did Chubb and Sony have ? How did ST effect that stat ?
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:34 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 8:44 pm to
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What three plays and how long were the drives for TDs ?


You must have a bad memory:

The 3 td Drives were 43, 23, and 34 yards and each came after a forced punt. They occurred from minute 25 to minute 36 of the game.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:13 pm to
I remember and also know that penalties are part of football. I also remember AUs defense shutting down UGAs Offense. You want to bring those plays up, but forget the Stidham and Johnson fumbles in the second game. Like I said, it was part of the game and didn’t change either game.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:20 pm to
All 3 were totally out of characteristic plays and came as uga was shutting down auburns offense. Y’all scored back to back tds after being forced to punt. That’s absurd.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:37 pm to
AU had nearly 500 yards of Offense, how can you claim UGA was shutting AU down? More excuses.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:55 pm to
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AU had nearly 500 yards of Offense, how can you claim UGA was shutting AU down? More excuses.



By looking at the game.

Y’all were gaining yards but settled for 3 Fg’s.

After that, it was back to back punts for -7 yardage, but our special teams gave y’all the ball on our side of the field despite that.

Bad enough, but then it happened again, except the ball was even closer to our endzone

Game was destined to be a low scoring battle until our special teams stepped down and gave gus the breaks he needed to hide his traditional disappearing offense.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28286 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 2:33 am to
Auburn's success depends on the play of the OL. I have no idea what to expect from them.

I do think we upgraded the OL coach. I wasn't that impressed with Hand. Some games our OL looked like as good a bunch as there was in the nation. Other games they looked lost and soft.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 5:56 am to
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UGAs Defense played like shite on the road, and that is Kirby’s forte.

Well, now that's just wrong.

We held a powerful ND running game to near nothing.
We shut Tennessee out.
We gave up 7 to a good GT offense
And we stopped the Auburn offense in the SECCG.

The only two games we struggled on the road was at Auburn in the first game and in the Rose Bowl against Oklahoma. And our defense held Oklahoma's offense in the second half to 7 points.

ETA
If you want to say UGA struggled defensively on the road, then you would have to say Auburn did too against:
LSU
Texas A&M
UGA SECCG
UCF

And defense was the strength of Auburn last season. You can't have it both ways.
This post was edited on 5/21/18 at 6:15 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:07 am to
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Not that it matters that much, but KJ was the starter and pulled his hamstring severely in the 2nd quarter of the first game of the season. I might be wrong but I believe he had already rushed for 100 yards and had broke a long run when he got hurt.


You are right. he had 16 carries for 136 yards. My bad. For some reason I was thinking he came out of fall practice injured.

But my point was that Gus had developed a back for the starter, but failed to do so once Pettway went down.

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Auburn fans began hearing the coaches were searching for a 3rd back in summer ball. IMO it was a sign that one didn't exist.
This might have been the problem. Either way, I think the kid you guys signed this past year is going to be a good one, but Gus really needs to develop and play 2-3 more running backs. Maybe he learned a lesson last year.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:10 am to
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I wonder if overall D will be as good as the last two years. DL should be stout, but I haven't heard much about the secondary after losing Carlton Davis.



They lost four major pieces off their defense, that I am aware of.

Their leading pass rusher, Jeff Holland.
Their best LB, Tre Williams,
And two DB's Carlton Davis and Tray Matthews.

They do have a very solid foundation, and their front 7 will be very, very good. Not as good as Clemson's, but very good.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 6:12 am to
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Absolutely true. He has a very good arm but played like a Freshman in many situations. I'm hopeful that this was due to being away from competitive football for a year. If there is no significant improvement this year I'll be worried. I'm optimistic now.

I think what you said is correct. It is tough, especially for a QB, to be away for any length of time. I think a lot of it will be regaining his confidence. I suspect you will see an improvement with Stidham getting rid of the ball this year.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 5/21/18 at 9:14 am to
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They lost four major pieces off their defense, that I am aware of.

Their leading pass rusher, Jeff Holland.
Their best LB, Tre Williams,
And two DB's Carlton Davis and Tray Matthews.

They do have a very solid foundation, and their front 7 will be very, very good. Not as good as Clemson's, but very good.




The nice thing about the D is depth exist. We have answers for Jeff Holland and Tre. I don't know that we have a 2nd round CB talent on the team, but other guys have played well. IMO Stephen Roberts will be missed more than Tray Matthews, but the guys behind both played a lot and played well. I expect the DL to be better this season.

The developing depth thing at RB is over played. Most teams don't have 3 or 4 capable RB. We had 2 and needed a 3rd due to injuries. If uga doesn't have the unique scenario of Chubb and Sony come back uga wouldn't of had 4. Missing on Roc was the biggest issue for Auburn concerning depth. I am cautiously optimistic about Asa, but IMO we still don't have an every down SEC back on our team that we honestly know can handle the load.
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