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Wishbone Offense: When do you remember last seeing it in CFB/NFL?
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:23 pm
When was the last time you saw a team run a wishbone, as in not the Paul Johnson triple but a true wishbone either from under center or in the shotgun? I remember Oregon has a wishbone-esq formation out of the shotgun under Chip Kelly but I don’t remember any major program having even a wishbone formation. Last time I saw it used was when I played little league and my team a true wishbone. I know Auburn used to run it back in the 80’s.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:25 pm to AuburnPanic40
Duke ran it (triple option) for a series against Alabama in the 2019 opener.
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:25 pm to AuburnPanic40
Aside from the military academies, I remember Oregon State using it pretty unsuccessfully in the 1990s.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:29 pm to AuburnPanic40
A-R-M-Y! A-I-R-F-O-R-C-E!! Academies.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:29 pm to Murph4HOF
Did the military academies ever run a true wishbone or have they always run the option out of the wing like they do now?
This post was edited on 7/9/20 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:31 pm to CapstoneGrad06
Honestly surprised Gus hasn’t tried to implement a true triple option formation in some way against the gumps. It would be a massive failure against any other team but I’m sure we’d rush for like 500 yards against y’all if we used it.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:33 pm to AuburnPanic40
Arkansas last ran it in the late 80s under Ken Hatfield.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:42 pm to TheCheshireHog
Arkansas should’ve ran it in the mid-2000’s with McFadden, Jones, and Hillis
Posted on 7/9/20 at 1:48 pm to AuburnPanic40
If it was an Iron Bowl inside that accursed Jordan Hare stadium and y’all had a Nick Marshall like dude at QB, yea Auburn would run for five hundred yards using that kind of offense you described. I’ll concede your point.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:04 pm to AuburnPanic40
Army when they stomped Northwestern. It was a while back, the coach before their current coach, but they went pure Wishbone against Northwestern in the second half and the Wildcats had no idea how to stop it.
It wasn't the pitch outs on a triple option that screwed them up. It was the constant inside traps, counters, and iso leads. Northwestern had prepared for the flexbone/wingbone offense Army ran but they had no idea how to stop this.
Would it work every game? Probably not. Army unleashed a Pistol/flexbone midline read option against Air Force a couple of years ago and caught the Falcons completely flat footed. Army won, going away, and did not attempt a single pass in the game.
What a weapon right? Yeah, teams had solved it by the start of the next season Army only runs it every now and then.
It wasn't the pitch outs on a triple option that screwed them up. It was the constant inside traps, counters, and iso leads. Northwestern had prepared for the flexbone/wingbone offense Army ran but they had no idea how to stop this.
Would it work every game? Probably not. Army unleashed a Pistol/flexbone midline read option against Air Force a couple of years ago and caught the Falcons completely flat footed. Army won, going away, and did not attempt a single pass in the game.
What a weapon right? Yeah, teams had solved it by the start of the next season Army only runs it every now and then.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:09 pm to AuburnPanic40
NY Giants ran it in 1987, with the replacement players
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:17 pm to AuburnPanic40
Marist HS in metro ATL has been running it
it since the mid 70's and has always been
a consistent power.
Side note:Sean Mcvay (Rams HC) was their QB in 2004 and was the 4A POY
it since the mid 70's and has always been
a consistent power.
Side note:Sean Mcvay (Rams HC) was their QB in 2004 and was the 4A POY
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:18 pm to AuburnPanic40
Alabama actually ran one play out of the wishbone formation against Auburn in 2004. That was pretty cool to see.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:20 pm to RD Dawg
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Marist HS in metro ATL has been running it
it since the mid 70's and has always been
a consistent power.
Coach Chadwick has been there since the 80s. And you are right. They are a consistent powerhouse despite being undersized.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:28 pm to AuburnPanic40
Gran has run some wishbone the past couple of seasons (between Wilson and Bowden). But even with Bowden under center didn't go full wishbone.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:29 pm to meansonny
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Coach Chadwick has been there since the 80s.
They ran it with Dean Hargis in the 70's.
I played against em. Chadwick was an asst.
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Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:36 pm to AuburnPanic40
quote:
Honestly surprised Gus hasn’t tried to implement a true triple option formation in some way against the gumps. It would be a massive failure against any other team but I’m sure we’d rush for like 500 yards against y’all if we used it.
quote:
Saban:
"You all don't remember the Georgia Southern game, do you? I don't think we had a guy on that field that didn't play in the NFL and about four or five of them were first-round draft picks. And I think that team won a national championship, but I'm not sure.
"And they run through our arse like shite through a tin horn, man, and we could not stop them. Could not stop them. Could not stop them because we couldn't get a look in practice, we didn't practice it right."
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:49 pm to TheCheshireHog
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Arkansas last ran it in the late 80s under Ken Hatfield.
Ken Hatfield ran it at Clemson and Rice after. Even in his last year at Rice (2005) he was in it a good amount of time. He used other variations of formations for the triple option, but he still had the base wishbone as a major part of his offense.
It's why his career ended up with him being fired from Rice.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 3:52 pm to AuburnPanic40
1985 Oklahoma was the last national champion to run the Wishbone. They were still very strong up until Barry Switzer left following the 1988 season. That’s when the Wishbone died at the elite level of college football.
Posted on 7/9/20 at 4:00 pm to AuburnPanic40
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Arkansas should’ve ran it in the mid-2000’s with McFadden, Jones, and Hillis
Mitch Mustain was slow and not a great decision maker. If those three had been there at the same time as Matt Jones, then yeah absolutely.
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