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re: Why is Sark successful at Texas and Jimbo is failing at A&M

Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Shea Vinnerbush
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2023
2162 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 9:53 am to
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The organization that has one 10 season in the last twelve years?
A&M has one 10-win* season in the last 25 years?
Posted by AGGIES
Member since Jul 2021
5754 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:20 am to
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Any competent coach will do well at Texas in the NIL era.


Not questioning that. All the resources are there.

But the criteria for judging successful coaches needs to be consistent
Posted by CISO
ATX
Member since Nov 2021
1082 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:25 am to
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Jimbo is still high on cocaine


Pretty sure it's meth. He looks like he's a meth kind of guy.
Posted by charliethehun
Member since Jul 2021
1056 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 10:42 am to
Peeps keep saying Texas is back, because Texas was there

Texas aTm, has never been there
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3037 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:04 am to
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Why is Sark successful at Texas and Jimbo is failing at A&M


Jimbo finished no.5 in the CFP rankings in 2020. Sark has finished with no less than 5 losses. Lets pump the brakes and see if he can take Texas to the CFP this year. They have no excuses.
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
144 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:26 am to
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Any competent coach will do well at Texas in the NIL era.


Not questioning that. All the resources are there.

But the criteria for judging successful coaches needs to be consistent


So far I would say Sark is right on track to be a good coach for Texas. He came in and found the glaring weakness on the team, the offensive line and defensive line for the past 15 years, and he fixed them and added depth there. It was really simple to see, Tom Herman and Charlie Strong must have been some real baffoons to not see it, or were just too incompetent to do anything about it...They liked recruiting flashy receivers, RBs, and DBs, but barely any linebackers or Linemen..Maybe the announcement that they were moving to the SEC helped in the recruiting.. At any rate, Sark was smart enough to see it and did something about it. He also hired the right coaches to get the job done and not his brother in law's best friend type dudes.
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 11:36 am
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
16226 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:40 am to
By what metric has Sark been successful, that Jimbo hasn’t
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8848 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:46 am to
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But the criteria for judging successful coaches needs to be consistent

starting next year, the metic will be simple

10 won NC
5 2nd place
3 tied for 3rd
2 tied for 5th
1 made playoffs
0 didn’t make playoffs

or something like that

add up the points and voila.. easy scale to measure by.. conference championships will mean yiou most likely get a bye 1st round, therefore they will still matter.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8848 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 11:47 am to
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By what metric has Sark been successful, that Jimbo hasn’t

one fan base has hope
one fan base has given up hope


that’s kinda damning in my mind
Posted by AZHorn
Southern Arizona
Member since Aug 2021
144 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 12:18 pm to
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Bama was a consensus top 5 team. Then they lost to Sark.
Good God!

Last year Bama had a Heisman winner/1st player taken in the draft at QB. They had a bad game and still beat you at home.

Milroe ain't even in Bryce Young's shadow. Put Young in that game and you lose again.


Texas had their backup QB in the game for most of the game last year and you barely beat them with your Heisman trophy winner running BAMA's offense.

How can you assume BAMA beats Texas at full force with their starter QB in the game even last season, much less this season?
Posted by NaturalStateReb
Arkansas
Member since Jun 2012
1443 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 1:20 pm to
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Why is Sark successful at Texas and Jimbo is failing at A&M


Jimbo's ship was starting to founder at Florida State. He got out of Tallahassee one step ahead of disaster. The signs had been there for a while: getting blown out by Oregon, getting blown out by Louisville, getting beat by Houston in a bowl game, a number of close scrape wins to inferior teams. Having Jameis Winston made FSU look better than it probably was, structurally.

Jimbo blamed the fading returns on FSU's lack of investment. While it may be true that FSU didn't invest as it should, it's pretty clear Texas A&M is into investing pretty heavily. The results just aren't there.

Texas A&M overpaid for a coach on the downhill.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 9:34 am
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9195 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:48 pm to
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Texas A&M overpaid for a coach on the downhill.


So Jimbo is the FSU version of Coach O. Fortune found both of them via a rare QB but there isn't much to them otherwise. Sark is a legit football mind, so he will have a better career over time
Posted by DownOnWashington
Tulsa
Member since Jul 2022
203 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 3:50 pm to
Jimbo is a poor man’s Mike Gundy
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
8848 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 4:07 pm to
Great breakdown of the two long touchdowns for Texas this past weekend.

Link: Twitter: Dan Orlovsky game breakdown

Sark creates leverage all over the place.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12893 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 4:55 pm to
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Jimbo is a poor man’s Mike Gundy


thats beautiful.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15070 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:09 pm to
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Because Sark is a competent Offensive Coordinator and QB developer, and Jimbo is a competent bullshiteter.

Some coaches are out for the money, and this is one example.
Posted by FearlessFreep
Baja Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
17354 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:15 pm to
Sark is 15-12 at UTx

at this point in his TAMU career Jimbo was 18-9 playing in a much tougher conference
This post was edited on 9/13/23 at 5:19 pm
Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
1799 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 5:25 pm to
Texas is a good team. Are they a consistent team? We’ll see. But beating AL in their home field is a big deal and there is no need to pretend it’s not. There doesn’t appear to be anybody on their schedule whose in their tier.
Posted by Clark14
L.A.Hog
Member since Dec 2014
19971 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:13 pm to
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Jimbo is still high on cocaine Pretty sure it's meth. He looks like he's a meth kind of guy.



I wouldn’t be surprised if fisher keeps a Pez dispenser full of Adderall in his shirt pocket…
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 9/13/23 at 6:19 pm to
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I wouldn’t be surprised if fisher keeps a Pez dispenser full of Adderall in his shirt pocket…



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