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re: Why is it a forgone conclusion that Lane will eventually leave Ole Miss?
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:34 pm to ScoggDog
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:34 pm to ScoggDog
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Shown you several coaches that made "destination jobs" ... and several that have pissed away the same.
But hey - you know a phrase - "destination job". Not like you're ever going to question it's meaning, or how it got into circulation. That would take focused, hard concentration ... and a willingness to examine your own initial assumptions.
Much easier to spout "destination job - no" and "destination job - yes". You got a list ? Who gives a shite. If you did ... it would be self-serving. "destination job" is your trump card. If you say that - I guess all conversation is supposed to stop.
Are you disagreeing that there are destination jobs and non destination jobs?
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Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:37 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Brilliant reply kid ... not a counter to any of my statements. But you clicked an animation. Well done.
I think you might be ready for debate club. But hey - don't rush into it. You'll have to leave the basement and put on some Dockers and maybe a tie. It's a big decision.
I think you might be ready for debate club. But hey - don't rush into it. You'll have to leave the basement and put on some Dockers and maybe a tie. It's a big decision.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:42 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Are you disagreeing that there are destination jobs and non destination jobs?
I'm saying the description is fluid. And no fan-base can ever be so confident that "my team will always win" or, if the stars align, so defeated that "my team will never win".
James Franklin is only at Penn State because of Joe Paterno. Who was a shite in my book. But without a doubt ... he raised a cow college to "destination job".
The label is not permanent. It's not like you gain "destination job" status and suddenly get extra recruiting visits. Nor are you on some "outside club" without "destination job" status.
Who in their right minds want to go to Nebraska now ? Former "destination job". Anybody want to follow up at Michigan ?
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:43 pm to SidewalkTiger
Bobby Bowden proved that if you're a good enough coach and willing to put in the time, you can make it a destination job.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:45 pm to ScoggDog
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I'm saying the description is fluid. And no fan-base can ever be so confident that "my team will always win" or, if the stars align, so defeated that "my team will never win".
James Franklin is only at Penn State because of Joe Paterno. Who was a shite in my book. But without a doubt ... he raised a cow college to "destination job".
The label is not permanent. It's not like you gain "destination job" status and suddenly get extra recruiting visits. Nor are you on some "outside club" without "destination job" status.
Who in their right minds want to go to Nebraska now ? Former "destination job". Anybody want to follow up at Michigan ?
Neither Nebraska nor Michigan seemed to have any trouble hiring a coach during their last search so your "point" doesn't really make sense.
Certain schools have the resources to recruit elite athletes and win big and certain ones don't.
It's just the way it is.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:48 pm to tndawg
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Bobby Bowden proved that if you're a good enough coach and willing to put in the time, you can make it a destination job.
I think it's possible but you still need a certain level of commitment from the school and a good talent base from which to recruit.
Every school doesn't have those things.
You also need the stars to align so you're able to win with some lesser talented teams just to get on the radar and the odds are usually stacked against that.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:48 pm to Tunica
He is gone after this year man. Don't waste your good season worrying about this. It's going to happen. Be happy you are getting something out of it.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:49 pm to tndawg
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Bobby Bowden proved that if you're a good enough coach and willing to put in the time, you can make it a destination job.
Except Bowden wanted to leave twice and take the Bama job in the 80s. They wouldn't hire him for some reason.
And FSU isn't exactly a destination job since Stoops turned them down to stay at UK.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:50 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Nebraska nor Michigan
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win big
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:51 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Neither Nebraska nor Michigan seemed to have any trouble hiring a coach during their last search so your "point" doesn't really make sense. Certain schools have the resources to recruit elite athletes and win big and certain ones don't. It's just the way it is.
That is EXACTLY my point.
Let's look at Miami. Former "destination job". And every time we see them do a coaching hire ? The candidate pool gets smaller. Let's look at Tennessee. Same deal. No longer a "destination job". It's not a permanent title.
Think of all 130 or so football schools on a number line. There is no mark where "destination school" suddenly grants permanent advantages. That's not how it works at all. And schools can, and do, rise and fall on that continuum.
Just ask Nebraska. Miami. Michigan. Those schools used to power "Perennial Powers". That was the term thrown around back in the day. But they are power players no more.
Watch their next hiring search. It'll be a little less bold than the last one. That's inertia.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:53 pm to Tunica
You seem scared someone is going to hire kiffin from you. I can smell the sissy blue fear thick in the air.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:54 pm to ScoggDog
There are two types of destination jobs. Those that are the final destination to the coach and those that the program is in such a place that no coach would want to leave, with exception to the NFL.
Both Nebraska and Michigan were destination jobs for Frost and Harbaugh. Alabama, Ohio State, USC etc are all jobs that once a coach gets there, they are not leaving.
Ole Miss does not strike me as Lane's destination. He will move on to bigger and better. Maybe the NFL or maybe a bigger school.
Both Nebraska and Michigan were destination jobs for Frost and Harbaugh. Alabama, Ohio State, USC etc are all jobs that once a coach gets there, they are not leaving.
Ole Miss does not strike me as Lane's destination. He will move on to bigger and better. Maybe the NFL or maybe a bigger school.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:55 pm to Hang10
I agree. Kiffin might have lucked into Corral. They might be a perfect match. He will leave for greener pastures. I just don’t think he will go to LSU.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:56 pm to ScoggDog
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That is EXACTLY my point.
Let's look at Miami. Former "destination job". And every time we see them do a coaching hire ? The candidate pool gets smaller. Let's look at Tennessee. Same deal. No longer a "destination job". It's not a permanent title.
Think of all 130 or so football schools on a number line. There is no mark where "destination school" suddenly grants permanent advantages. That's not how it works at all. And schools can, and do, rise and fall on that continuum.
Just ask Nebraska. Miami. Michigan. Those schools used to power "Perennial Powers". That was the term thrown around back in the day. But they are power players no more.
Watch their next hiring search. It'll be a little less bold than the last one. That's inertia.
No one has insinuated that Lane will go to Miami, Nebraska, Michigan, or Tennessee.
They said he might jump to one of the current destination jobs from Ole Miss if he's offered.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:57 pm to Tunica
Was talking with others about this last week. Ole miss is a stepping stone job. If lane keeps it going he will jump for a bigger school. It’s what he does.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:57 pm to Dale Sturtevant
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Alabama, Ohio State, USC etc are all jobs that once a coach gets there, they are not leaving.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:58 pm to Dale Sturtevant
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Both Nebraska and Michigan were destination jobs for Frost and Harbaugh. Alabama, Ohio State, USC etc are all jobs that once a coach gets there, they are not leaving.
Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer, and others say Hi ... just to name a few. And you also get fired from your "destination job" ... get this - those guys also look for other jobs.
I remember when Florida was the "destination job" - until Steve Superior took a walk.
It's only a destination job when the fit works. And nobody here has a definitive list on that ... because it depends on the school and coach and a zillion other factors.
Posted on 9/19/21 at 7:59 pm to kywildcatfanone
Well since you're bringing up the past...why did Tubbs leave Ole Miss for Auburn if it really was a destination job like you think?
Posted on 9/19/21 at 8:00 pm to ScoggDog
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Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer, and others say Hi ... just to name a few. And you also get fired from your "destination job" ... get this - those guys also look for other jobs.
I remember when Florida was the "destination job" - until Steve Superior took a walk.
It's only a destination job when the fit works. And nobody here has a definitive list on that ... because it depends on the school and coach and a zillion other factors.
And now you're moving the goalposts. We're talking about other CFB jobs and you know that.
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