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Why do people want to expand the SEC?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:22 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:22 am
What are your reasons? Whatever they are, I'm sure they are stupid or short-sighted.
Is it to see more match-ups or better games? Well, we can't even go to 9 conference games, which would make the interdivision rotation much much better for everyone. 3 P5 conferences have already gone to 9 games but the SEC would rather play cupcakes for the 9 spot.
Is it to have less money distribution per team? Face it, sports ratings are trending downward for the most part. People are cutting the cord on paid TV services, so revenue for providers is down. Millenials are not into sports like Boomers and Xers. Even ESPN has had massive staff cuts over the past few years. In other words, if you trigger a contract negotiation, you are not going to get the same piece of pie that we have today.
I guess you are just playing some kind of SIM CITY: College Sports Edition. Because I cannot see any logical reason at this point to expand the conference.
Is it to see more match-ups or better games? Well, we can't even go to 9 conference games, which would make the interdivision rotation much much better for everyone. 3 P5 conferences have already gone to 9 games but the SEC would rather play cupcakes for the 9 spot.
Is it to have less money distribution per team? Face it, sports ratings are trending downward for the most part. People are cutting the cord on paid TV services, so revenue for providers is down. Millenials are not into sports like Boomers and Xers. Even ESPN has had massive staff cuts over the past few years. In other words, if you trigger a contract negotiation, you are not going to get the same piece of pie that we have today.
I guess you are just playing some kind of SIM CITY: College Sports Edition. Because I cannot see any logical reason at this point to expand the conference.
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:23 am to Landmass
Just let us go back to 12 and be done with it.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:25 am to Landmass
we don't.
the last two expansions have been utter failures. we've taken in 4 red-headed step children.
the last two expansions have been utter failures. we've taken in 4 red-headed step children.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:28 am to Landmass
Expansion? No.
Downsizing? I have no problem with that. I have been recommending downsizing since I got here. I even brought it up in A&M’s interview.
Downsizing? I have no problem with that. I have been recommending downsizing since I got here. I even brought it up in A&M’s interview.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:31 am to Landmass
Because, eventually, a Super Conference is going to form. At least that's what they've been telling us for 25 years.
The SEC wants to be first, or at least be out ahead and ready to grab the most favorable teams when the Supers are formed
The SEC wants to be first, or at least be out ahead and ready to grab the most favorable teams when the Supers are formed
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:35 am to Landmass
A&M expansion made sense even if they are weird little bitches who worship Alabama. But because of that we had to add a total misfit that provides nothing (Missouri).
Any further additions should only be add/subtract or the addition of two schools who legitimately add to the conference. I don't want/may not be able to get any of them, but Oklahoma, FSU, UNC, etc. rather than Louisville, Texas Tech, Houston, etc.
Any further additions should only be add/subtract or the addition of two schools who legitimately add to the conference. I don't want/may not be able to get any of them, but Oklahoma, FSU, UNC, etc. rather than Louisville, Texas Tech, Houston, etc.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:36 am to Vecchio Cane
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Because, eventually, a Super Conference is going to form. At least that's what they've been telling us for 25 years.
Unless there is more money involved, this is not going to happen.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:47 am to Landmass
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Unless there is more money involved, this is not going to happen.
The only way more money is involved is any new schools are in a different market, that is why I lol at some of the suggestions here and lack of understanding as to why MO was a great addition.
Simply put any new teams will come from states not already represented, end of story.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:49 am to Landmass
I'm for reducing it. We can kick out Ole Miss and Missouri.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:06 am to Farmer1906
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Downsizing? I have no problem with that. I have been recommending downsizing since I got here. I even brought it up in A&M’s interview.
I see you Dwight
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:10 am to Landmass
I would like 2 more and go to 4 divisions of 4 teams. IMO you either need to be 12 or 16 teams, 14 sucks.
4 divisions would be pretty cool and you would play more SEC teams more often than we do now in football. Even keeping it to 8 conference games.
We could also introduce the first Conference semi-final games in football. Just printing money at that point.
4 divisions would be pretty cool and you would play more SEC teams more often than we do now in football. Even keeping it to 8 conference games.
We could also introduce the first Conference semi-final games in football. Just printing money at that point.
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:12 am to Ted2010
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Missouri.
Brings in more $ to the SEC than AL and AU combined.
They are not going anywhere.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:16 am to DarthRebel
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I would like 2 more and go to 4 divisions of 4 teams. IMO you either need to be 12 or 16 teams,
I always liked this guys idea LINK /
Break up the Big12 and create 4 Conferences of 16 teams
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:17 am to Landmass
Personally, I don't see how adding the only other teams that can compete for MNC's helps anyone. It'll be back to ND vs. the Big10 while we have a bunch of 2 and 3 loss powerhouses imo. Media would eat that shite up....
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:19 am to cave canem
Link? Not being a smartass. I'd really like to read it.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:23 am to Landmass
Many complaints about our current size could be fixed if we did away with permanent rivals. I like playing Mizzou, don't get me wrong, but it would be nice to play someone like Kentucky more then once a decade or so.
As for expanding who do we add that doesn't dilute what we already have?
FSU? We already have a major presence in the state of Florida. Oklahoma? We had better be prepared to take Oklahoma State as well and switch Alabama and Auburn to the East. The ACC teams we might be interested in from Virginia and North Carolina seem to be pretty darn happy where they are.
The money is not going to get better if we add a Texas or Clemson... its going to get worse. We are living as high on the hog as it is going to get.
As for expanding who do we add that doesn't dilute what we already have?
FSU? We already have a major presence in the state of Florida. Oklahoma? We had better be prepared to take Oklahoma State as well and switch Alabama and Auburn to the East. The ACC teams we might be interested in from Virginia and North Carolina seem to be pretty darn happy where they are.
The money is not going to get better if we add a Texas or Clemson... its going to get worse. We are living as high on the hog as it is going to get.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:28 am to Landmass
Any expansion will be driven by determining what TV markets the new schools add to the conference's footprint.
Most of the schools tossed around on this board and others as "good candidates" don't do that. The SEC added fricking Missouri just to get the STL TV market.
Regardless of what the Faggies tell you, "muh endowment" size means very little.
Charlotte, SoFla, OKC, and/or DFW are the areas where any potential expansion will target.
Most of the schools tossed around on this board and others as "good candidates" don't do that. The SEC added fricking Missouri just to get the STL TV market.
Regardless of what the Faggies tell you, "muh endowment" size means very little.
Charlotte, SoFla, OKC, and/or DFW are the areas where any potential expansion will target.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:32 am to Ted2010
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Link? Not being a smartass. I'd really like to read it.
no link needed
The SEC is paid based on the amount of TV sets in a state, just look at the population numbers and thank them for the fat assed check.
Simply put MO is pumping around 18 million more per year into the SEC network alone than AL.
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On January 13, 2014, Sports Business Journal reported that ESPN was seeking a carriage rate of $1.30 per-subscriber per month in SEC markets, and $0.25 in non-SEC markets; in comparison, Big Ten Network charges around $1 per subscriber in Big Ten markets.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:39 am to WorkinDawg
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Personally, I don't see how adding the only other teams that can compete for MNC's helps anyone.
It wouldn’t.
The SEC won’t expand anytime soon.
This [tired] topic just gives folks something to bat around during the offseason.
People enjoy speculating on scenarios in order to pass the time.
Same with preseason rankings, bowl matchups, and which campus has the best landscaping.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:41 am to NocaHomas Teepee
To fix the current weirdness, just move to 9 conference games and go back to the rotation like we had with 12 teams.
You play the 6 divisional opponents and you will have 3 cross-divisional opponents (1 perm and 2 rotating).
We can all drop the East Arizona Technical Colleges from our schedule.
Adding more teams to the SEC is stupid. We will get less money per school. We would have to go to 10 conference games for it to even work.
As for having four 4 team divisions, I'd love to see how the tie breakers would figure into that. I think that idea is pretty absurd.
You play the 6 divisional opponents and you will have 3 cross-divisional opponents (1 perm and 2 rotating).
We can all drop the East Arizona Technical Colleges from our schedule.
Adding more teams to the SEC is stupid. We will get less money per school. We would have to go to 10 conference games for it to even work.
As for having four 4 team divisions, I'd love to see how the tie breakers would figure into that. I think that idea is pretty absurd.
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