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re: Why do people think Alabama would let Texas act like they run the SEC if they got in.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:53 pm to ThoseGuys
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:53 pm to ThoseGuys
Bama doesn’t have half the money or resources Texas has. Also Dallas is basically a destination city with awesome tax/revenue incentives so look for several SEC events/offices to move there. All this is coming from an OU and MU fan.
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:53 pm to FreddieMac
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Bama
Florida
Georgia
LSU
These are the programs that run the SEC.
Yes they do
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:54 pm to ThoseGuys
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Why do people think Alabama would let Texas act like they run the SEC if they got in.
People don’t think that, Aggie fans (and maybe a small subset of Mizzou and Arkansas fans( do.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:56 pm to Boomer00
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Bama doesn’t have half the money or resources Texas has.
Yeah, when A&M showed up with all their money, they dominated EVERYTHING.
Oh, wait - that didn't happen.
You know, Alabama doesn't have the money Georgia or Florida has either, right? Why haven't those two dominated football like Alabama has?
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Also Dallas is basically a destination city with awesome tax/revenue incentives
The SEC offices basically get EVERYTHING free in Birmingham, and if it was about being a "destination city" then Atlanta or Nashville would've gotten those offices ages ago.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:59 pm to skrayper
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You know, Alabama doesn't have the money Georgia or Florida has either, right? Why haven't those two dominated football like Alabama has?
This. Bama doesn't have some incredible heap of money yet their influence on the conference is undeniable.
Besides, despite many trying over the years, you can't just roll into the deep south with loads of cash and expect to be king. Politics and connections down here are everything. Texas is in for a rude awakening.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:21 pm to Boomer00
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Also Dallas is basically a destination city with awesome tax/revenue incentives so look for several SEC events/offices to move there
The SEC office isn't leaving a central location in Birmingham for the Western fringes of the conference. If the concern for the league office was being in an international city they'd have moved to Atlanta 10 years ago.
Conference tournaments will definitely be placed in Texas/OKC more, though. No doubt.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:23 pm to BleedPurpleGold
It is not Alabama, its Bama, Florida, LSU and Georgia (Big 4 founders) prop up this conference. They are the major players in the conference. Bama is basically a one sport school and cannot support an entire conference. But Florida, Georgia, LSU basically dominate the conference in other sports. Those 4 schools prop up the SEC year round. Basketball, baseball, track and field and gymnastics.
Then you have the remaining founders with influence (State, Piss, and Vols). Not as much as the big 4 but they do wield influence. These 7 schools have and always will determine the direction of the SEC.
Texas money does not mean crap. Aggie money has not really propelled them forward in to a influential spot in the SEC. Schools added to the SEC over the years will never have the level of influence as those 7 schools.
Then you have the remaining founders with influence (State, Piss, and Vols). Not as much as the big 4 but they do wield influence. These 7 schools have and always will determine the direction of the SEC.
Texas money does not mean crap. Aggie money has not really propelled them forward in to a influential spot in the SEC. Schools added to the SEC over the years will never have the level of influence as those 7 schools.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:25 pm to FreddieMac
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Bama is basically a one sport school and cannot support an entire conference. But Florida, Georgia, LSU basically dominate the conference in other sports.
Hilariously stupid and untrue. Do we want to count the number of sports with national titles in the last decade? Look at the all sports rankings? Look at the number of teams in NCAA Tournaments in different sports?
- Alabama has won the National Championship in Football, Gymnastics, Softball, Men's Golf and Women's Golf in the last 9 years.
- Alabama just finished #7 in the country in the Directors Cup.
- Alabama just won the SEC Championship in Football and the SEC Regular Season & Tournament Championship in Basketball, the 2 largest sports.
- Alabama made the NCAA Tournament in every sport we competed in except 2 (women's soccer and volleyball).
- Alabama had 6 teams finish in the Top 10 of their sport (Football #1, Softball #4, Women's OTF #4, Women's Swimming #5, Men's ITF #7, Gymnastics #8) and 12 finish in the Top 25.
Don't be a dummy.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:34 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:30 pm to ThoseGuys
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They aren't moving the SEC offices out of Alabama. They aren't replacing the staff with Texas alum. Texas would be in for a rude awakening if they joined the SEC. The college football world doesn't revolve around them. Certainly not in the SEC
Guys, you just don't get it. Yes, t-sips are as arrogant as Tide fans with more money. But that's not the problem. t.u. is very, very good at getting conferences to adopt bylaws that appear to benefit everyone, but in the long run turn out to benefit the sips more. They operate in the boardrooms, behind the scenes. They're especially effective when their teams stink, because nobody views them as a threat then. Do you think it's a coincidence that Nebraska rapidly faded from national prominence after the formation of the Big 12? Hardly. Look into the rules changes on partial qualifiers the t-sips championed. That's the way they operate.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:31 pm to SummerOfGeorge
No way is Bama gonna let Texas run over them. And they wouldn't let Ohio State or Notre Dame either. I don't see any southern school letting a northern school come in and dictate how things will be. You don't have to be from the south to know that. Texas is dreaming if they think they will be the big dog in the SEC!
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 4:32 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:31 pm to Sabreman
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Do you think it's a coincidence that Nebraska rapidly faded from national prominence after the formation of the Big 12? Hardly. Look into the rules changes on partial qualifiers the t-sips championed
You mean the rules that every other conference in America had already adopted?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:38 pm to ColoradoAg
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Texas never has and never will play nice.
This is the SEC tho, you play nice or you get the frick out.
Period.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:48 pm to rockiee
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The aggies that think the SEC could be taken down by Texas should be actively advocating to leave the conference, if you think its that weak.
Its not like that. Its more that we know they will rock the boat eventually, so why take on the headache.
We all know the answer is money.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:50 pm to cardboardboxer
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We all know the answer is money.
You are not wrong.
But that was also a big reason A&M got in, if we are honest.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:51 pm to cardboardboxer
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Its not like that. Its more that we know they will rock the boat eventually, so why take on the headache.
We all know the answer is money.
This is absolutely a reasonable answer. Texas has proven over and over to be a headache, and they will undoubtedly end up being one at some point in the SEC.
That is much different than "just wait, they'll get here and take over and run the league in 3 years".
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:59 pm to CBandits82
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This is the SEC tho, you play nice or you get the frick out.
Period.
Yes, the long list of schools expelled from the SEC gives weight to your words.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:03 pm to higgs_boson
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But that was also a big reason A&M got in, if we are honest.
I get it. It is hypocritical for Aggies to be offended by this move for that reason: we got the slot instead of more deserving programs on the field like TCU because of our money ten years ago.
The difference to me is for Aggies the SEC was always the dream, the fantasy, the goal worth all the hassle to get to. When everyone told us that we would get our shite kicked in and it was a bad idea we didn't care, we wanted to be SEC members. We powered through and they took our licks with crazy shite like far away "rivalry" games while we built ourselves up. We never complained about what the SEC front office did unlike some folks.
Texas is settling for the SEC. Their network didn't work out and OU doesn't want to go West and so they are working out a marriage of convenience. They have no appreciation of what the invite means, they haven't been humbled into being a good team player. So they will take it for granted and act like its their birthright from day one. The trouble will come soon after.
I hope yall can look back and say us Aggies were better than that, and during this time we actually made the league better. Maybe not, but that is the difference from my perspective.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:07 pm to cardboardboxer
You have really good points, but I just do not think the sky is falling if they get in.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:09 pm to cardboardboxer
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They have no appreciation of what the invite means, they haven't been humbled into being a good team player. So they will take it for granted and act like its their birthright from day one. The trouble will come soon after.
Yeah they'll regret that when they win 3 games a year and their pompous arrogance is kneecapped like a mob hitman.
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I hope yall can look back and say us Aggies were better than that, and during this time we actually made the league better. Maybe not, but that is the difference from my perspective.
I'll get a few hundred downvotes, but IDGAF. aTm has been a good SEC pledge and taken a lot of shite along the way (rightfully so) in stride. Once TX joins y'all will have the duty of beating the shite out of them until that arrogance has been pummeled into textbook Stockholm Syndrome. Don't let the rest of the conference down.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 5:10 pm to cardboardboxer
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I hope yall can look back and say us Aggies were better than that, and during this time we actually made the league better. Maybe not, but that is the difference from my perspective.
Adding A&M was the best move the SEC has made in terms of membership changes in the league since the league was created in 1932. It was a great cultural fit, A&M has great academics, a great all around athletic department and loves being here.
Texas and Oklahoma might work, but I don't think either will be as good an all around fit as A&M was.
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