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Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:55 am to Mithridates6
LSU....oh wait 
Posted on 9/12/20 at 8:58 am to Mithridates6
Neither, rather I've always been surprised that UT has always had a strong team til now with their high school sports being like Pee Wee league compared to other states in the SEC.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:18 am to RD Dawg
I’m from Nashville and hate Tennessee but from 1981-2000 before I went off to Auburn Tennessee was fricking awesome at football. They absolutely owned Georgia and was potentially the best team in the SEC during that timeframe.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 11:20 am to Draconian Sanctions
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Texas who was up there with Bama as far as nationally dominant programs
Alabama was 0-7-1 against Texas and didn't get their first win until the 2009 BCS Championship game.
Arkansas has been a decades long decline. We would have challenged for SEC titles yearly from 1960-1989, but we hit rock bottom in 1990. We've had some good teams since, but haven't been able to sustain any lasting success.
The biggest difference today, imo, is that Tennessee still recruits great players and has no good reason to struggle so much. If Arkansas still recruited that well, we'd be much better.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:28 pm to redeye
The players that Tennessee recruited aren't that great or else they wouldn't decline like they did.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 12:32 pm to Clark14
quote:If Kiffin never leaves, I think their talent sky rockets and he's a good enough coach that he would win the East a few times. Especially the years that Mizzou won it
The Kiffin crap really hurt them.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:32 pm to dchog
Maybe
But while a top-20 class is one of our best, it's just normal for Tennessee and maybe even disappointing. Of course it's easier to recruit well when every SEC writer claims you're a sleeping giant, rather than denying your past success, as they've always done with Arkansas.
But while a top-20 class is one of our best, it's just normal for Tennessee and maybe even disappointing. Of course it's easier to recruit well when every SEC writer claims you're a sleeping giant, rather than denying your past success, as they've always done with Arkansas.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:35 pm to dchog
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The players that Tennessee recruited aren't that great or else they wouldn't decline like they did.
If we had any other coach in 2015 and 2016, we likely go 11-1 both years.
Talent fell way off after that but those teams were stacked
Posted on 9/12/20 at 1:37 pm to Arksulli
Nutt should have won more games in 98,99,02,03,05,06 and 07. He should had at least brought an SEC title back to Fayetteville.
Nutt on his best days were average. He won on raw talent and didn't develop his players.
Nutt on his best days were average. He won on raw talent and didn't develop his players.
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Posted on 9/12/20 at 2:53 pm to redeye
I don't need to look at recruiting rankings to see if teams like Tennessee are any good or not. They were a top program in the 90s but they declined when coaching became a problem. It got bad to the point that they just recently had no player drafted to the NFL. Arkansas had at least one player drafted to the NFL for the last 25 years. That doesn't mean Arkansas were better but it just explains that Tennessee were not as talented as people thought.
I'll take trust in more college and NFL coaches than some recruiting sites that are nothing more than hype and not actual player evaluations.
I'll take trust in more college and NFL coaches than some recruiting sites that are nothing more than hype and not actual player evaluations.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 2:58 pm to Tjtennispro
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but from 1991-2001 before I went off to Auburn Tennessee was fricking awesome at football.
FIFY.They had some good teams in the 80's but awesome is idiotic.
They were 1-3 vs UGA in the 80's BTW
Posted on 9/12/20 at 3:00 pm to Mithridates6
Decline implies you were once a great program. Arkansas has had 3 good seasons since they joined the conference 30 years ago.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:44 pm to Mithridates6
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Whose decline surprised you more, Arkansas or Tennessee
Is this really a question???
The only surprising thing is that Arkansas had a good run when Petrino was there.
Historically, especially since joining the SEC Arkansas has been an also ran.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:47 pm to Mithridates6
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Texas who was up there with Bama as far as nationally dominant programs
I’d argue that given their resources and recruiting ground, Texas has been a huge historic underachiever. I think the only other major school with similar advantages that has done less is UCLA
Posted on 9/12/20 at 4:54 pm to Mithridates6
The decline in trolling.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 5:00 pm to Thumpa15
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Fun fact:
Tennessee football is a combined 33-15 all time vs LSU and Arkansas.
Roughly half of both LSU's all time wins (5) and Arkansas's all time wins (3) have come against Tenner during their lowest point in history. Or roughly the past 15 years. It's the equivalent of making fun of LSU during the 80s and 90s or Arkansas since inception.
This is a surprising fact, so I actually looked it up. LSU is all-time 10-20-3 vs Tennessee.
However, the series is tied 9-9-1 since 1967. So congrats on being dominant over LSU in a completely different era.
Posted on 9/12/20 at 6:13 pm to Tiger Phil
Tennessee had the bigest decline.
From 97-07 we played in the SEC championship 5 times.
LSU kicked our butts twice during that time. 2001 knocked us out of the Rose Bowl....if my memory serves me right. Matt Mauck came off the bench and kick out arise. What a fun game to watch. LSU beat us in 2007 also.
Auburn whhpped us once.
We got greedy and fired Fulmer in 2008 and then hired:
Kiffen, Dooley.Butch Jones, and a couple of dumb airse ADs. Not a good combination.
Pruitt is on the right track. We will get blistered this year but we are a couple years out from competing in the SEC Championship.
From 97-07 we played in the SEC championship 5 times.
LSU kicked our butts twice during that time. 2001 knocked us out of the Rose Bowl....if my memory serves me right. Matt Mauck came off the bench and kick out arise. What a fun game to watch. LSU beat us in 2007 also.
Auburn whhpped us once.
We got greedy and fired Fulmer in 2008 and then hired:
Kiffen, Dooley.Butch Jones, and a couple of dumb airse ADs. Not a good combination.
Pruitt is on the right track. We will get blistered this year but we are a couple years out from competing in the SEC Championship.
Posted on 9/13/20 at 7:04 am to dchog
The SWC was indeed a power conference. But Texas, SMU, and A&M from 1975-1990 is far less intimidating than Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, Georgia, or Nebraska and OU in the same time period
Posted on 9/13/20 at 10:28 am to MizzouTrue
Texas, Texas A&M and SMU from that era were a combined 17-11 against SEC opponents including the bowls. That is a far cry that they were such inferior to the SEC.
Alabama was 0-7 against Texas before the 09 title game.
Alabama was 0-7 against Texas before the 09 title game.
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