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re: Who wins the SEC?

Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:35 pm to
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:35 pm to
I think LSU shocks the SEC and wins it.
Posted by koreandawg
South Korea
Member since Sep 2015
12550 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:40 pm to
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In a climate like this...you ask "who is best positioned to win the conference with good but not incredible QB play".

Normally, I would say if you look at returning production outside of QB play...it's a good place to start. This is a weird year, because:


When you continually recruit top five classes, returning starters doesn't mean as much. Saban and Kirby have proven that.
Posted by Cimarron
Member since Jun 2024
370 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 2:50 pm to
I'll take Georgia until someone proves they're better.
Posted by Tarpon08
Cut Off, LA
Member since Dec 2014
7816 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:36 pm to
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TrueLefty


quote:

Kelly


Oh there’s a fricking surprise.
Posted by Jimmyboy
Member since May 2025
1752 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:42 pm to
To me the safest bet is UGA because of smart. Longhorns #2
Posted by FoTownBam
Foley Al
Member since Oct 2023
3865 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 5:47 pm to
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Not trying to be a homer but I like us to get there due to having the least amount of questions at the QB position.

LSU has probably the best QB/Wrs groups in the SEC. My questions for them are defense and offensive line? I think the defense will probably be around average in the conference which might be good enough for them, but what are yall hearing about the offensive line group? I know there’s several new starters. A below average offensive line could derail the whole offense, especially for a pro style sit in the pocket type quarterback that you have
Posted by Soonerthanlater
Member since Apr 2024
297 posts
Posted on 7/15/25 at 7:23 pm to
Yep. OU at +3300 is a gift.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
3182 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 12:05 am to
Florida and South Carolina should also have some optimism in that regard.

Usce is the ole miss of this year, lotta dark horse talk but just lije ole miss, championship level football isn’t in their dna.
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
32915 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 7:28 am to
LSU vs Bama part 2 in Atl

Toss up but both will be in the playoffs


LSU is huge value.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:01 am to
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Bama Defense has 8 starters returning (most in the SEC) and I don't know if that's an advantage or disadvantage.
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With a first year coordinator running a new system they finished

#10 FEI
#9 Yards Per Play Defense
#10 Scoring Defense
#10 QB Rating Against Defense
#28 Rush YPA Defense

I'm going to go with advantage.


Gave up an average of 15 PPG the last 8 games of the season (along with just over 300 YPG), and in reality that was more like 12-13 PPG as the offense gave away 28+ pts between the Oklahoma and Michigan games.



Looking at the overall season (NCAA.com stats):

Yards per play - 4.72. That's 10th best in the country and 4th best in the SEC...
Yards per game - 320.1 - That's 21st in the country, and 7th best in the SEC.
Rushing YPC - 3.68 - That's 27th in the country and 8th best in the SEC.
Rushing YPG - 138.1 - That's 48th in the country and 11th best in the SEC.
TD to opponent TD Margin - (-2) - The only SEC team whose opponents scored more TDs than they did for the season. So, that's 16th place.


So...they may be good overall...but I don't think that the defense puts them in a place statistically to be a favorite to win the conference.

Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
6091 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:31 am to
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I'll say it again. I think Nussmeier and Sellers are good QBs. If they were great, they would have left last year. Incredibly weak QB class last year.


LSU gave Nussmier 1.5 million reasons to stay and improve his draft stock. With the WR room that LSU has what QB would turn down that opportunity?
Posted by 6columns
Member since Jun 2024
2013 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 8:36 am to
Florida gonna surprise some people.
Posted by Boomer65
Norman
Member since Sep 2022
970 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:08 am to
Dark horse: Florida
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
20268 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:31 am to
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But these guys aren't Manning returning for a senior season.

So Nuss and Sellers aren't 1st ballot Hall of famer? Thanks for the clarification.

LSU's chances depend on the defense, especially the secondary and our edge defenders. We were awful there last year by our standards.

Huge test right off the bat at Clem's Son.

Schedules in this expanded SEC matter. Texas has a big leg up there compared to LSU and UGA. Bama's toughest opponents are at home except for UGA.
Posted by Fearless and True
N Carolina
Member since Aug 2022
1584 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:46 am to
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shitty bama team


So your fanbase was crying over a "shitty" team not making the 12 team playoff??
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
17117 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 9:50 am to
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Hard to argue against Texas making the Championship game again with their light schedule.


Lost 4 offensive linemen, 3 interior defensive linemen, and new wide receivers, and they have to completely rebuild the back end of their defense. But they have Arch, and that is apparentely all it takes in the new SEC.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
1240 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:07 am to
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Bama Defense has 8 starters returning (most in the SEC) and I don't know if that's an advantage or disadvantage. They gave up around 140 yards on the ground per game and nearly 200 in the air (over 10 yards per completion). 2 years ago, Bama with 8 returning defensive starters would be scary. Now, it's kind of encouraging. - Bama Offense has 6 returning starters from a middle of the pack group...meh


It's hard to predict that when the year you're referencing is the first year of a coaching regime that includes new defensive and offensive schemes. There's a learning curve for adjusting to the new schemes that, more times than not, produces not-so-favorable results in year 1 that don't happen in year 2.

My guess is, from a defensive perspective, we will not see the breakdowns in year two that we saw in year one, because a lot of that last year was the players playing in a new defensive scheme. The encouraging thing is the recruiting has not dropped off at all. Recruiting is the life blood of college football and players matter. So, I highly doubt we'll continue the dominance Saban had but I wouldn't count on Bama wallowing in "mediocrity" with only 8 and 9 win seasons as the norm. I highly doubt that happens.
Posted by WossNess
H Town
Member since Jan 2025
228 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:23 am to
You should see what Texas lost the year before and was still fine. When you recruit elite yearly you reload
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:23 am to
LSU, Georgia, or Bama are ones with a chance.

Texas had the easiest SOS in SEC last year, someone posted SOS rankings week 14 last year. Their 7 SEC wins went 18-38 in the SEC last year and had no ranked wins going into the CFP last year, were 0-2 vs Top 25. They better get an OU type schedule in 2026, as I still think they're faux.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 10:25 am
Posted by Saunson69
Stephen the Pirate
Member since May 2023
8230 posts
Posted on 7/16/25 at 10:26 am to
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You should see what Texas lost the year before and was still fine. When you recruit elite yearly you reload


And what was y'alls record vs Top 25 going into the CFP? 0-2. Your 7 SEC wins went 18-38 in the SEC. It takes sub .333 record for Texas to win. Texas is faux. I still think that. They better get an OU type schedule next year, as another poster showed SEC SOS rankings week 14 last year. Texas was dead last 16th of 16 in SOS.
This post was edited on 7/16/25 at 10:28 am
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