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re: Who Will Be The Next SEC Team To Win A Football Natty In The 2020’s

Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:26 pm to
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:26 pm to
So far we have Georgia and Alabama. LSU was 2019 champs.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
75196 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:27 pm to
Texas A&M
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:25 am to
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but Jimbo is buying a machine there

FIFY
Posted by FireDanMullen
Member since Dec 2020
2712 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:11 am to
Gators. All we need is the right coach to get back to greatness.

The other 3 will never win a championship.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 7:00 am to
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If we continue to get top 5 classes, that it going to become a reality.




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Heard it a hundred times before!

Followed by complete failure.

poor aggies


Very shortsighted.

1. They have the money
2. They have the backing
3. They have a coach that has done it
4. They are getting the players

Count them out at your own peril.

Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 7:02 am to
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but Jimbo is buying a machine there


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FIFY


And? Why are people so adverse to recruiting legally?

If Auburn were recruiting legally would it bother you for people to criticize it?
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 7:05 am to
Yep

Really nothing preventing them from it other than Saban.

He was our stumbling block in '12 and '17 and the Aggies obviously beat em last year.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
6813 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:33 am to
SC we got Beamer ball
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3650 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:53 am to
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And? Why are people so adverse to recruiting legally?

If Auburn were recruiting legally would it bother you for people to criticize it?

First, can you post the quote where I said I was adverse to recruiting LEGALLY?

Second, how sure are you that Jimbo has absolutely no say so in the NIL deals being brokered? Because, if he does, that would be (currently) "illegal" in this ever changing environment. Why did Jimbo only have his #1 class AFTER the passing of the NIL rule? Do you really think money had nothing to do with it?

Last, hell yes, I would still criticize the whole NIL situation (as well as the transfer portal as it currently exists)....even if Auburn was #1 in recruiting. I am in total agreement with Saban, Sweeney and many other "rival" coaches when they state how NIL is a game changer (as well as the transfer portal)....and not in a good way.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52554 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 9:57 am to
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And? Why are people so adverse to recruiting legally? 


Using NIL with regards to recruiting is still against the rules.

Not sure why so many of you don't understand that.

That said, who gives a frick? Everyone is cheating.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:45 am to
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First, can you post the quote where I said I was adverse to recruiting LEGALLY?


You certainly insinuated it when you posted this: but Jimbo is buying a machine there


FIFY



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Second, how sure are you that Jimbo has absolutely no say so in the NIL deals being brokered?
How are you sure that he does have a say so? You are throwing around accusations and insinuating that Fisher is doing something illegally, yet you think it is up to me to prove he is not? No. If you want to make an accusation it is up to you to prove that what you are saying is true.

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Why did Jimbo only have his #1 class AFTER the passing of the NIL rule?
Because they have an incredibly affluent base that went all in on NIL? Texas A&M went all in on NIL:. Will it work out for them? Who knows? They are off to a great start. Those players might leave A&M in a year or two, or they may stay and bring a chmpionship to A&M.

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Last, hell yes, I would still criticize the whole NIL situation (as well as the transfer portal as it currently exists)....
I am with here. I don't like either, either. But I am not going to criticize a school for taking advantage of either of them.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:47 am to
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Using NIL with regards to recruiting is still against the rules.


I understand this. Now. Where is your proof that Jimbo is doing that? People can speculate. But speculation and insinuation does not make something a fact.

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Not sure why so many of you don't understand that.

I don't understand why you do not understand my point above concerning speculation and insinuation.

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That said, who gives a frick? Everyone is cheating.


If this is true, then why are y'all pointing your fingers at Jimbo Fisher and A&M?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52554 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:49 am to
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Why did Jimbo only have his #1 class AFTER the passing of the NIL rule?

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Because they have an incredibly affluent base that went all in on NIL? 


And that isn't legal like you erroneously stated.
Posted by Whentheleveebreaks
Member since Aug 2020
1884 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:50 am to
The reason they are doing this is bc we just replaced them as one of the top 3 recruiting schools in the SEC. Pretty easy to see why. They most likely complained at the start of the Kirby recruiting top talent, maybe not bc they were still in the top 3.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7142 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:50 am to
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but Jimbo is buying a machine there


And? Why are people so adverse to recruiting legally


Pay for play is still against ncaa rules, and even if the major football playing programs pull out of the ncaa, boosters paying for players will still be against rules.

NIL is for players to market their name and image, not for boosters to pay them to come play.

LINK

NCAA to review NIL policies, including impact on student-athletes and potential recruiting violations

In a news release, the board cited concerns about potential violation of NCAA recruiting rules, the representation for athletes as they broker these deals, booster involvement, as well schools being involved in potentially arranging deals for incoming players.

According to the board, the NCAA's national office enforcement staff have continued to investigate violations of NCAA rules, including pay-for-play and recruiting inducements.
Posted by Gorlock
Member since Jan 2022
54 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 10:59 am to
I think if re-alignment puts Bama and Auburn in the East, then AnM is set up pretty good if they continue to recruit at this level year after year.
Posted by Rod Kimble
Houstion
Member since Aug 2021
159 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:00 pm to
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Heard it a hundred times before!

Followed by complete failure.


'Texas is back!'

Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
6942 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 12:22 pm to
A&M would be my first guess followed by Florida.

Auburn is nowhere close to contention. If we turn things around it'll be at least 5-6 years from now before we're capable of winning 10 regular season games. We're too far down the Malzahn rabbit hole of program destruction and then had the boosters try and destroy Harsin which set things back even further.
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 12:24 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 1:29 pm to
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And that isn't legal like you erroneously stated.

Maybe Jimbo made plenty of strong arse offers?
This post was edited on 4/20/22 at 1:30 pm
Posted by ptclaus98
Member since Dec 2014
1203 posts
Posted on 4/20/22 at 2:25 pm to
It'll be UF. Napier is that guy, but it won't be instant. They'll be nationally relevant before Richardson leaves for the NFL, but it'll take time to chip away at the talent gap of UGA and Alabama.

We will merely get back to stability, probably a few 10 win seasons over the next decade, but I don't think we have enough to punch through for a Natty while UF and UGA are both strong.

Auburn will experience what we have over the last decade. They are looking crazy familiar to us circa 2010.

A&M looks like it's setup for them but I just don't trust Jimbo to get it, but they still might go the whole decade averaging 10 wins a year.
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