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re: Who is the most under rated SEC coach ever?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:52 am to BamaIsGoat
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:52 am to BamaIsGoat
Les miles. Won the sec twice and a national championship and ran an offense from 1948.
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:56 am to Choot em Tiger
Les Miles or Phil Fulmer
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:23 am to BamaIsGoat
Spurrier was one of the most celebrated SEC coaches ever
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:29 am to artompkins
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Nick Saban. He's that good.
You probably jest but maybe not. It is actually a travesty that Nick Saban has not won the COTY most every season but that award is more of a comeback of the year award, something that I doubt the Bear would have approved of.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:34 am to Trojan1998
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Stallings
I'm a Bammer and Gene Stalling is by all accounts a very good man and was a good coach but I don't think Stallings was under rated. Alabama is the only place he ever had a winning record. He won 1 SEC title, same as Bill Curry before him and Mike DuBose after him. But yeah he did win a national title. He was well celebrated at Alabama, but then, so was Mike Shula. I am not in any way, shape, form or fashion saying Shula was as good a coach as Stallings.
edit to say that he was probably one reason the ncaa got it in for Alabama, after he so unceremoniously and with a few choice words demanded the ncaa investigator exit his office. Since all that led in a meandering way to Nick Saban, I don't sweat that much anymore.
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:38 am to Trojan1998
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Gene Stallings. 70-16-1 record in seven seasons. Averaged ten wins a year in an era when there were only eleven regular season games. Had Alabama on a 28 game unbeaten streak from the 1991 season over into the 1993 season.
Stallings won an SEC title and won one national title. Alabama not only beat, but annihilated in the 1993 Sugar Bowl what people were calling the greatest dynasty ever in the Miami Hurricanes. He returned Alabama to the top of college football for the first time since the Bryant years.
If not for Spurrier, he may have secured 2-3 more SEC titles. The old ball coach also cost Bama a shot at a NC game in 1994 with his 1 pt win over an undefeated #2 Alabama in the SEC CG
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 8:39 am
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:44 am to BamaIsGoat
Saban
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:45 am to Che Boludo
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If not for Spurrier, he may have secured 2-3 more SEC titles
The only year bama was anywhere close to another NC under Stallings was 1994, and I'm pretty sure Nebraska would have destroyed us even if we had gotten to the game.
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 8:46 am
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:49 am to DoubleBubbleTrouble
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Spurrier underrated? He WAS the SEC in the 90s. He’s just overshadowed now by Saban’s ridiculous legacy.
Personally, I’d say Pat Dye and yes I’m biased. The man took a dumpster fire to the SEC team of the 80s.
Pat Dye was a good coach and an excellent recruiter thaT happened to strive in the SEC during the perfect storm. The barn might as well have been referred to as Tuscaloosa East. Like Clemson and Georgia and Tennessee today, you had Bama players littering the coaching staff. You ran the exact same scheme Dye was familiar with at Alabama all those years with the wishbone. Pat Dye was recruiting Bama legacy players and cleaning up on in-state players. He sat up little Alabama and even his gameday rhetoric was all Bear Bryant.
In the end, Pat Dye had overwhelming talent and depth and did not win the big one. They have no excuses. That's why, if he is a sleeper, he did it to himself. The guy was fundamentally sound but he too reeked of too much conservativism in the biggest games. Even with the mighty Bo Jackson, they had no business not winning an NC. That roster stayed loaded with enough talent for 2 SEC teams.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 8:54 am to biclops
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I'm pretty sure Nebraska would have destroyed us even if we had gotten to the game.
Nebraska might have beaten us but I don't think they would have destroyed us. The 1994 Nebraska Cornhuskers, while elite, were nowhere near as dominant as the 1995 Huskers were. They trailed #3 Miami heading into the fourth quarter of the Orange Bowl that year by a score of 17-9. It was the late heroics of Tommie Frazier who saved that game for Osborne and company.
I feel like 1994 Alabama would have matched up fairly well with 1994 Nebraska.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:07 am to RollTide1987
Back in the day, I thought Terry bowden.
Hal Mummes also comes to mind.
Who did I most underrate as a person? Gene Chizik. Seems like a great guy and good football mind.
For the win, I would go Erk Russell. Should be in the college football hall of fame.
Hal Mummes also comes to mind.
Who did I most underrate as a person? Gene Chizik. Seems like a great guy and good football mind.
For the win, I would go Erk Russell. Should be in the college football hall of fame.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:08 am to ewilliams000
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Nutt gave the game away against LSU. Jones and Mcfadden were unstoppable and eating us alive till 4th quarter. Then he got cute and started passing the ball. Big mistake. This allowed LSU to win the game. I kept saying, why is he doing this? Does anyone else remember that game?
Yeah Casey Dick went something like 3/18 in that game yet we didn’t give McFadden or Jones any carries toward the end of the game.
Nutt wasn’t bad but he just rode the coattails of freak talents like Matt Jones and McFadden and lost too many games he shouldn’t have.
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 9:10 am
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:14 am to biclops
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The only year bama was anywhere close to another NC under Stallings was 1994, and I'm pretty sure Nebraska would have destroyed us even if we had gotten to the game.
He was 2 pts away from playing for one.
And, 94 Nebraska isn't destroying 94 Alabama. Bama's D was strong up front and with plenty of time to prepare for an option attack. I think they'd do well. I think it would have been a 4th qtr game with Bama's D finally getting worn out late and Nebraska pulling away.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:19 am to Kraut Dawg
quote:He was my 1st thought, too, even though Penn St. didn't under rate him.
What James Franklin did at Vanderbilt hadn't been done in what, 40 years?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:25 am to BamaIsGoat
I will go out on a limb and say Bill Curry.
Had he won the sugar bowl against #2 Miami, he would have had an argument for the national championship that Alabama could have (well, would have) claimed.
I understand some didn’t like him and threw beer bottles through his window, but he had that team ready.
(Also want to go off topic about that sugar bowl......prince wimbley caught a huge pass in that game and started walking like a giant....curry pulled him over and grabbed him by the face mask)
Had he won the sugar bowl against #2 Miami, he would have had an argument for the national championship that Alabama could have (well, would have) claimed.
I understand some didn’t like him and threw beer bottles through his window, but he had that team ready.
(Also want to go off topic about that sugar bowl......prince wimbley caught a huge pass in that game and started walking like a giant....curry pulled him over and grabbed him by the face mask)
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:29 am to BamaIsGoat
Robert Neyland and it's primarily due to the generational gap of when he coached.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:31 am to meansonny
quote:If we're talking about assts., too, I'll throw in Ken Donahue.
For the win, I would go Erk Russell. Should be in the college football hall of fame.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:32 am to OrangeEmpire
Neyland is most certainly not underrated as just about every person on this board with any knowledge of SEC history would put him on the Mt. Rushmore of SEC football coaches. Neyland might be underappreciated in the year 2021 due to the fact that the era in which he coached is quickly fading from living memory. His last season at Tennessee was 69 years ago.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:37 am to RollTide1987
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the era in which he coached is quickly fading from living memory. His last season at Tennessee was 69 years ago.
That's exactly it
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:41 am to BamaIsGoat
Les Miles
Averaged 10 wins a season, won the west three times, the SEC twice, and the natty once. 5-7 record against Bama isn't that bad. If he could have caught a couple of breaks in some of the Bama games and/or faced OK State in the natty, his legacy would be much different.
Averaged 10 wins a season, won the west three times, the SEC twice, and the natty once. 5-7 record against Bama isn't that bad. If he could have caught a couple of breaks in some of the Bama games and/or faced OK State in the natty, his legacy would be much different.
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