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Who Ends Up the Premier Alpha Dog Program in the Big 12?
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:17 pm
All this movement and it just seems like the Pac 12 will implode and the Big 12 will just end up a slightly better Conference USA. Who will be the Big 12's top football power at the end of the day? TCU... Oklahoma St? No one near blue blood status there.
Pretty clear we're headed to 2 major super conferences like the NFC and AFC in the NFL. I don't like it at all, but the SEC will have to react if for nothing else than to protect the home turf. That's why bringing in FSU, UNC, UVA and either Clemson or NC State makes sense. Geography matters to me, but apparently not to TPB. But I'd still like the SEC to stay rational with geographic footprint...unlike the Big Ten.
Pretty clear we're headed to 2 major super conferences like the NFC and AFC in the NFL. I don't like it at all, but the SEC will have to react if for nothing else than to protect the home turf. That's why bringing in FSU, UNC, UVA and either Clemson or NC State makes sense. Geography matters to me, but apparently not to TPB. But I'd still like the SEC to stay rational with geographic footprint...unlike the Big Ten.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:20 pm to Chad4Bama
Probably some team that can beat Texas A&M 

Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:21 pm to Chad4Bama
Sorry Bama, no LSU or Auburn on the schedule this year. Y’all are playing UNC and NC State in November! How fun!
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:23 pm to Chad4Bama
Kansas is still gonna be king in basketball.
In football I'm not sure. I don't know if there will be 1 singular elite team that wins it most years, which could honestly make it even more fun due to the unpredictability of it year to year.
In football I'm not sure. I don't know if there will be 1 singular elite team that wins it most years, which could honestly make it even more fun due to the unpredictability of it year to year.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:23 pm to Old Money
If it went to such a format then theoretically the cupcake games would go bye bye.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:24 pm to Chad4Bama
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Who Ends Up the Premier Alpha Dog Program in the Big 12
In a couple of years... Colorado
Posted on 8/4/23 at 2:32 pm to Chad4Bama
Utah if they join and AZ will give Kansas all they want in basketball
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:04 pm to Chad4Bama
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All this movement and it just seems like the Pac 12 will implode and the Big 12 will just end up a slightly better Conference USA. Who will be the Big 12's top football power at the end of the day? TCU... Oklahoma St? No one near blue blood status there.
If Utah ends up there it will be between Utah, Okie Lite, and TCU.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:07 pm to Chad4Bama
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All this movement and it just seems like the Pac 12 will implode and the Big 12 will just end up a slightly better Conference USA. Who will be the Big 12's top football power at the end of the day? TCU... Oklahoma St? No one near blue blood status there.
Pretty clear we're headed to 2 major super conferences like the NFC and AFC in the NFL. I don't like it at all, but the SEC will have to react if for nothing else than to protect the home turf. That's why bringing in FSU, UNC, UVA and either Clemson or NC State makes sense. Geography matters to me, but apparently not to TPB. But I'd still like the SEC to stay rational with geographic footprint...unlike the Big Ten.
If Utah goes, then I think it's quite likely that the Utes end up on top.
I think Arizona State's is a place with a lot of undeveloped potential.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:18 pm to FreddieMac
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Probably some team that can beat Texas A&M


Posted on 8/4/23 at 3:55 pm to Chad4Bama
TCU, Texas Tech & UCF should be the alphas. Add Utah to that list if they join.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 4:35 pm to Chad4Bama
football: Baylor, TCU, UCF
basketball: KU or Houston
baseball: TCU, Texas Tech, Ok State
ETA: lol a lot of aggies triggered by this post I see
basketball: KU or Houston
baseball: TCU, Texas Tech, Ok State
ETA: lol a lot of aggies triggered by this post I see

This post was edited on 8/7/23 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:04 pm to FreddieMac
There are no alphas in that conference
This post was edited on 8/4/23 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:27 pm to Chad4Bama
I give UCF a shot. Gus' O is good if you don't know it. Give them a few years of seeing the same plays over and over and things change.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:28 pm to ColoradoAg
TCU, Baylor, OSU? lmao.
KSU has the most conference wins once OU and UT leave. They just won the conference with an average recruit ranking of 55. Chris Klieman is building a really solid program there.
Look for KSU to be one of, if not the elite football school in the new Big12. Utah isnt going to do jack in the new Big12. the Pac12 was the softest P5 conference by far. For reference their SOS in 2022 was #42. KSU was #4.
Its going to be ruled by KSU, MAYBE OSU, and possibly one of the Texas schools. TCU had a flukey 2022. They had six games where they injured the starting QB. Dykes is a good coach, but he isnt elite and will doubtfully ever get them back to where they were in 2022.
KSU has the most conference wins once OU and UT leave. They just won the conference with an average recruit ranking of 55. Chris Klieman is building a really solid program there.
Look for KSU to be one of, if not the elite football school in the new Big12. Utah isnt going to do jack in the new Big12. the Pac12 was the softest P5 conference by far. For reference their SOS in 2022 was #42. KSU was #4.
Its going to be ruled by KSU, MAYBE OSU, and possibly one of the Texas schools. TCU had a flukey 2022. They had six games where they injured the starting QB. Dykes is a good coach, but he isnt elite and will doubtfully ever get them back to where they were in 2022.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:30 pm to Chad4Bama
Football: Toss up between K-State, Oklahoma State, BYU, Baylor, TCU.
Basketball: KU, Arizona
Basketball: KU, Arizona
Posted on 8/4/23 at 5:55 pm to Chad4Bama
Oklahoma State has the best facilities in the Big12, we’re the only school where the athletic department has more power than our president.
We just received another $120million from TBoone’s trust fund and are working on a $340 million athletic village expansion.
Pac12 schools look like my Houston highschool facilities.
We just received another $120million from TBoone’s trust fund and are working on a $340 million athletic village expansion.
Pac12 schools look like my Houston highschool facilities.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:26 pm to Chad4Bama
Lol we have bigger donors than half of your conference, including the biggest in CFB history and his trust fund (his son runs it, just received another $120 million). We also have better athletic facilities/villages than 80% of your conference.
What do you think Oklahoma State could become with the TV money Mississippi St makes? We’re building one of the first football operation centers next to our indoor stadium which we’ve had for 10 years.
We’re 19th in media views over the past 10 years, well above 50% of your conference. More people watch OSU Vs Texas and/or Bedlam than the Red River Rivalry the past few years. We haven’t had a losing season since 2006 my friend.
What do you think Oklahoma State could become with the TV money Mississippi St makes? We’re building one of the first football operation centers next to our indoor stadium which we’ve had for 10 years.
We’re 19th in media views over the past 10 years, well above 50% of your conference. More people watch OSU Vs Texas and/or Bedlam than the Red River Rivalry the past few years. We haven’t had a losing season since 2006 my friend.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:32 pm to NurdCat
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TCU had a flukey 2022. They had six games where they injured the starting QB. Dykes is a good coach, but he isnt elite and will doubtfully ever get them back to where they were in 2022.
Completely agree. National media doesn’t realize this but TCU barely played anyone with their starting QB. And they still had a lot of close calls.
Posted on 8/4/23 at 11:46 pm to RedDirtPoke
TCU also had a ton of seniors, including 8 who got drafted.
But thats how small programs do it. They coach up some 3 stars and every 3 or 4 years they got an experienced squad that can make a run.
But thats how small programs do it. They coach up some 3 stars and every 3 or 4 years they got an experienced squad that can make a run.
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