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re: Who do you think did a better coaching job this year?
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:00 pm to EarlyCuyler3
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:00 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Y'all always use this excuse as if it somehow doesn't reflect extremely poorly on the head coach who used to coach defense.
This is irrefutable, you’ll get no rational answers from them on this point.
Only 46-41. You know, bullshite.
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Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:05 pm to ForgetTheRest
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With identical records, who of the two did a better coaching job, LSU’s Ed Orgergon or Missouri’s Eliah Drinkwitz? I would say Eliah Drinkwitz because he had so much less talent to work with.
One took the defending national champions to a .500 record.
And tried to chickeshit his way out of a loss to Alabama. (Alabama 55, LLLLLLLLWLsu 17).
Yaw Yaw led his team to a 4th place finish in the west. Mizzou finished 3rd in the east.
One was an embarrassment. The other was not.
Mizzou "kicked the shite" out of LSU 55-51, only one point less than when LSU "kicked the shite" out of Bama the year before.
It was a clear and substantial win for Mizzou in 2020. Congrats!
Better luck next year LSU. With the leadership you have at the helm, the future is BRIGHT!
This post was edited on 1/29/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:12 pm to Sid E Walker
LSU will be fine. that young talent showed at the end of the season mostly Fresh and soph classes. To be honest that talent ranking for the upperclassmen was fools gold a lot of them underperformed. The ones LSU was counting on : Chase , shelvin, vincent, Farrell opted out of season. Farrell returned later in season. LSU will have high expectations this year. Will admit that Mizz lose was probably the worst loss of the season though.
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Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:15 pm to ForgetTheRest
I don’t think any coach in the SEC did a worse job that Orgeron this year.
It goes beyond the record. He clearly let the championship go to his head and spent the e offseason patting himself on the back rather than preparing for a pandemic affected season.
It goes beyond the record. He clearly let the championship go to his head and spent the e offseason patting himself on the back rather than preparing for a pandemic affected season.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:17 pm to memphis tiger
You are too rational, but still wrong.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:39 pm to ptclaus98
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Let's see. One coach beat Florida away, the other one got deep dicked by a Guarantano lead Tennessee squad, in one of the most comprehensive beat downs of Pruitts tenure at Tennessee.
Drinkwitz said had 52 players and some had to play on defense and then switched to play offense. Also said there were some walk-ons playing.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:51 pm to TrueLefty
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Drinkwitz said had 52 players and some had to play on defense and then switched to play offense. Also said there were some walk-ons playing
Tennessee had like 5 preseason practices with the full roster. Like 3 of them were with full pads.
And Guarantano.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 8:51 pm to SmokeTide
quote:This is my opinion as well. LSU was a much better team later in the year once they focused and took care of business.
I'm still adamant he didn't prepare LSU early in the season. Especially when they beat Florida later in season with arguably a worst roster than when they began.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 9:09 pm to ptclaus98
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Drinkwitz said had 52 players and some had to play on defense and then switched to play offense. Also said there were some walk-ons playing
Tennessee had like 5 preseason practices with the full roster. Like 3 of them were with full pads.
And Guarantano.
What does that have to do with lack of coaching for 3 full years while Drinkwitz just took over Missouri football program. He had almost nothing to evaluate since he got there. Pruitt had 3 years to know the players. That is on your HC. But he started out great for the first two games and Mizzou had to play Alabama the first game and then the players had been hit hard and the walk-ons had to be added to have enough players and one walk-on played OG. Drinkwitz did a great job with all the crap going on and still managed to win 5 games! That is why give Drinkwitz credit over Orgeron. Pruitt was looking good when he said "I have had experienced with this kind of situation as a HC in high school. Again you don't get it! Any HC would have folded and Drinkwitz didn't. He got a much better DC and allowed the DL coach to hire a DL coach. All is looking good so far for 2021.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 9:43 pm to RT1941
It's clear Orgeron did a very poor job navigating the difficulty of getting his team and coaches to focus after the success of last year. Its one of the truly amazing things Saban has been able to do; get 18-21 olds to buy in year in and year out and not gobble up rat poison. The "Process" is an amazing coaching job. Its one of the key things that makes him the best coach ever. He has perfected it. Everyone laughs at Orgeron going 5-5 this year, but keep in mind Saban went 8-5 at LSU in 2004 the year after winning a Nattie in 2003. That was with 3 out of conference cupcakes, and without dealing with Covid, opt outs and a home game being moved at the last minute due to a hurricane. One could at least make a rational argument Orgeron's season wasn't that much worse than Sabans in 2004.
This post was edited on 1/29/21 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 1/29/21 at 10:21 pm to LSUgrad88
Missouri’s team didn’t opt out, and they beat a more talented LSU squad. This is an easy answer.
Posted on 1/29/21 at 11:18 pm to ColoradoAg
Refute one thing I said.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 7:14 am to rebelrouser
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Yes, he did. By every measure. Recruiting rankings, all-conference/all-americans, draft picks etc. Plus Mizzou had plenty of opt out too.
Recruiting rankings don't tell the whole tale, though.
I mean, they do not take into account opt outs, and early graduation. Add to that that with all the players opting out, graduating early, etc, Orgeron was dealing with a cratering morale, I would imagine. The starting QB going down with an injury.
Do you really think Mizzou had nearly as many opt out? Do you even know who opted out for them?
I mean, I am not saying Drink did a poor job or the job he did was not impressive. It was. Mizzou does a ton with less almost every single year, so it was an impressive job. I am just saying what LSU did was impressive this past year. They recovered from a terrible start which must have had an impact on the psyche of the team, too.
I just think from a neutral viewpoint the job Orgeron did holding thing together was impressive.
I realize this was a troll thread, but it is actually a good thread for some honest discussion.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 7:40 am to TrueLefty
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TrueLefty
But do fans find Drink sexually desirable? That’s tRants standard now.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:26 am to SmokeTide
quote:Ummmm...
3 of his wins were against teams that fired their coach.
Auburn, Vanderbilt and South Carolina
Posted on 1/30/21 at 8:43 am to FearlessFreep
All the head coaches are pretty much in agreement, this was the most difficult season to ever navigate through. To have the team ready, protocols executed at all times, distractions with BLM as a growing concern with players, and contingency plans clear concise when players and coaches go down was a lot to figure out on the fly.
No one predicted Alabama to go undefeated in a 10 conference game schedule, much less have the margin of victory they enjoyed against ALL power-5 teams.
Who was the best coach? The guy holding the trophy in the end. And it was about freakin' time with that Paul "Bear" Bryant Trophy as COY. What a bunch of azz-hats those guys are.
No one predicted Alabama to go undefeated in a 10 conference game schedule, much less have the margin of victory they enjoyed against ALL power-5 teams.
Who was the best coach? The guy holding the trophy in the end. And it was about freakin' time with that Paul "Bear" Bryant Trophy as COY. What a bunch of azz-hats those guys are.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 10:39 am to ForgetTheRest
So according to that link LSU with 68 commits still had a better roster than gators, irish, sooners, aggies, auburn and a whole bunch more. Find that hard to believe. I call bullshite on those rankings.
This post was edited on 1/30/21 at 10:47 am
Posted on 1/30/21 at 11:19 am to ForgetTheRest
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My apologies for having your coach canned.
And yet you needed a tipped pass TD to beat Gus Malzahn.
Posted on 1/30/21 at 2:00 pm to CaptainBrannigan
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And yet you needed a tipped pass TD to beat Gus Malzahn.
Sucks to be on the other the end of these, doesn’t it?
Posted on 1/30/21 at 2:03 pm to FLObserver
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lost its starting QB in the first few games
And mizzou beat said QB
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