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re: Which Georgia team was better? 2021 or 2022?

Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:15 am to
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86500 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:15 am to
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And this Bama fan’s brain implodes knowing he has to take on the exact opposite logic he is imparting onto the 2022 National championship to refute that Texas fan.


they are just salty that the doormat they were used to beating all the time finally ended up getting one, in a title game at their expense to boot.

THe funniest part of it to me is when they say "y'all only won the natty last yera because you didn't have ot play bama". LOL, like the 2-loss team that lost to LSu and Tennessee (teams that we thoroughly destroyed) was the one true test that could've taken us down I'm sure
Posted by Floyd Dawg
Silver Creek, GA
Member since Jul 2018
3907 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 9:29 am to
If we're "stating facts" here, let's state a few more.

Why did the Bama staff do such a shitty job developing their freshman and backup receivers all season long to where they weren't ready to play in games where they were needed? Georgia's last three scores were by freshmen or redshirt freshmen.

Why do all the Bama injuries directly affect the outcome of the game and none of the UGA injuries do the same? I mean, our best pass rusher didn't play in either Bama game.
Posted by dhuck20
SCLSU Fan
Member since Oct 2012
20384 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:30 am to
2021 IMO, always thought 2022 was about due for a letdown and it just never happened. Call it resilience or whatever but just never thought they looked overly dominant. Probably because 2021 spoiled me (outside of Atlanta)
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4246 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:43 am to
Pretty much wrong on almost everything here. But I'll throw a few out:

"Blaylock - top recruit? Really?" - Yeah. He was the #36 overall recruit and #5 WR when he signed at UGA. That's a top recruit by most metrics.

"Tykee Smith - injured early but came back and played the rest of the year." - You're confusing seasons. That's what Tykee Smith did this past season. In 2021 he played in one game.

"Kearis Jackson - played in all 15 games." As a kick returner mostly due to injury. He was almost back to full strength as a WR at the Florida game but then got hurt again. Had 6 catches (9 targets) in the final 7 games of the year. I'm not sure if you understand what "playing injured" means or not. Apparently not.

"George Pickens - played in the SECCG 5 weeks prior and stated he was 100 pct." First of all, he said at the combine the first time he was working out fully healthy was at the combine. Second of all... I'm talking about players injured for the SECCG. He played the last 4 games of 2021 and had 5 catches. You can think that's him at full strength if you like, but you're an imbecile if you believe that.

"Adam Anderson - wasn't a Georgia player in Dec or Jan." Sure he was. He was suspended, he was not dismissed from the team.

"Chris Smith - Started all 15 games." No. He started 11 games in 2021 for UGA. Played in 12. He did play against Bama in the SECCG, but didnt' start because he was recovering from injury that had him miss games against Charleston Southern and Georgia Tech. Dan Jackson (a walk-on) started and took 2/3rds of the snaps at free safety for UGA. Do you think Bama WR's getting to face a walk on starting FS instead of a guy who's projected to go around the 3rd round in the NFL draft might have made it easier for Bama to throw the ball int he SECCG? Or do absences like that only matter when Bama has them?

"Arian Smith - didn't start in the 1st game when he was healthy and had 1 catch for 6 yards against Clemson." Yes, he did start against Clemson. Kearis Jackson was unable to start due to injury so Arian Smith replaced him. As for his stats against Clemson, UGA didn't have a WR with more than 2 catches in that game at all. A RB and TE had 4 and 6. Their leading WR had 1 catch for 21 yards (Jaylen Johnson, a walk on who had 3 catches on the season and was only playing in that game due to UGA injury woes). Brock Bowers was the only offensive threat working for UGA in that game, Clemson had a great defense. By far the best UGA played in 2021.

"You had 2 starters out with injuries for the NC game. The other besides Ratledge was Ringo, who you didn't mention. "

THe above shows what an idiot you are and why you should stop posting. Ringo was injured for the NC game? Then who the hell was this guy:

Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25622 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 10:49 am to
2022. The offense could beat teams every which way was needed. The versatility of the offense was insane.

2021's defense couldn't say that.
In the SECCG, our front 4 freelanced pressure. And it bit us in the butt losing contain over and over and over again.
They obviously had to play 1 style of football to win.
Posted by JetDawg
Los Angeles, California
Member since Oct 2020
7234 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:17 am to
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2019 LSU

NOT!!! 2022 UGA would've easily dispatched 2019 LSU.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25878 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 11:48 am to
The last 15 months have given a nice taste of what Bama fans will be like post Saban. Spoiled whiny bitches.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:01 pm to
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"Blaylock - top recruit? Really?" - Yeah. He was the #36 overall recruit and #5 WR when he signed at UGA. That's a top recruit by most metrics.

Meaningless

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"Tykee Smith - injured early but came back and played the rest of the year." - You're confusing seasons. That's what Tykee Smith did this past season. In 2021 he played in one game.


My mistake. He was the corner I was thinking of when I typed Ringo.

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"Kearis Jackson - played in all 15 games." As a kick returner mostly due to injury. He was almost back to full strength as a WR at the Florida game but then got hurt again. Had 6 catches (9 targets) in the final 7 games of the year. I'm not sure if you understand what "playing injured" means or not. Apparently not.

I understand what not being able to play means, which is what I counted for Bama, not playing injured.

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"George Pickens - played in the SECCG 5 weeks prior and stated he was 100 pct." First of all, he said at the combine the first time he was working out fully healthy was at the combine. Second of all... I'm talking about players injured for the SECCG. He played the last 4 games of 2021 and had 5 catches. You can think that's him at full strength if you like, but you're an imbecile if you believe that.


Pickens played more in the SECCG 5 weeks prior than he did in the NC game 5 weeks later.

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"Adam Anderson - wasn't a Georgia player in Dec or Jan." Sure he was. He was suspended, he was not dismissed from the team.


He was dismissed. He wasn't even allowed to participate in any future events at Georgia like any Georgia player.

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"Chris Smith - Started all 15 games." No. He started 11 games in 2021 for UGA. Played in 12. He did play against Bama in the SECCG, but didnt' start because he was recovering from injury that had him miss games against Charleston Southern and Georgia Tech.


Listed as starter for SECCG. Not any injury report.

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"Arian Smith - didn't start in the 1st game when he was healthy and had 1 catch for 6 yards against Clemson." Yes, he did start against Clemson. Clemson had a great defense. By far the best UGA played in 2021.


He didn't start against Clemson and only played 8 snaps against them. 2021 total defense ranking - Clemson 7th playing the in the SEC and Bama 9th playing in the SEC.

My mistake. As I posted above I knew a corner was out and typed Ringo instead of Tykee Smith. You had 2 starters out, Smith and Ratledge, which is about as good as it gets after 14 games.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:04 pm to
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UGA had injuries ALL YEAR LONG

We are discussing the games between Bama-Georgia.

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UGA was the better team.

Not when the teams were more evenly matched in starters that weren't injured and could play.

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That's what makes UGA a championship team, with a championship coach.

Being healthy and having the other team not healthy is what made you a NC team.
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
1967 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:05 pm to
Gees dude, you need a hobby, or a girlfriend, or uh...something.
Let it go man. You're beating a dead horse. Get with the rest of the world in accepting the way things are;
Bama got beat by a better team. They've never been the same since, it's over. Their days on top are now a part of cfb's storied history.
UGA is on top...to stay.
Saban is on his way out.
It's a bitter pill to swallow I realize, but the sooner you can accept it, the better you'll sleep at night.
In the words of Bob Dylan...times, they are-a changin.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:06 pm to
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This is only because you chose to not include all of the uga players. How convenient that is for your coping.



I didn't count all the Bama players, just the starters.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:10 pm to
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Somewhere out there a Texas fan is crying about the 09 championship where their 4 year All American QB was injured in the 1st quarter. A 3 point game late in the 4th quarter — surely a healthy Colt McCoy would’ve defeated Bama?



Certainly possible TX would have won. The difference is we only played TX once so there isn't a 2nd game for reference.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:15 pm to
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Why did the Bama staff do such a shitty job developing their freshman and backup receivers all season long to where they weren't ready to play in games where they were needed? Georgia's last three scores were by freshmen or redshirt freshmen.



Developing backups is a fair question but a differnt topic.

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Why do all the Bama injuries directly affect the outcome of the game and none of the UGA injuries do the same? I mean, our best pass rusher didn't play in either Bama game.


All injuries to key p[layers affect the game. It is the disparity in numbers that we are discussing.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:20 pm to
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Bama got beat by a better team. They've never been the same since, it's over. Their days on top are now a part of cfb's storied history.


Better with numerous starters out. They weren't better when the teams were evenly matched.
quote:

In the words of Bob Dylan...times, they are-a changin.


Maybe. We'll see.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
Member since Dec 2020
5923 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:27 pm to
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2022 was the more complete team. '21's defense was the best defense CFB has seen in 15 years and one of the best ever.


Fair enough. I think the offensive improvement was partly aided by a lower overall quality of opponent but that is just a hunch. They can only beat who is on the schedule though. Not their fault they played TCU in the natty and LSU in the lil natty.

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This is fair. Why can't more Bama fans be like this?

I just call em like I see em. I don’t let my personal pride get in the way of the truth when I can help it.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
4246 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:27 pm to
Lol.

So the end result is:

"Bama problems count. Other teams problems don't."

as well as:

"I'll continue to get facts wrong and pretend I'm right because I don't want your problems to count."

Tykee Smith is a corner? Huh. Could have fooled me.

George Pickens with 13 snaps in the SECCG played more than his 18 snaps in the NCCG? Huh. Interesting math. But he played very few snaps in both games because... he was hurt. You're confusing catches (2 in SECCG, 1 in NCCG) with how much he was able to be on the field.

Adam Anderson wasn't allowed at UGA events? You mean like UGA's pro-day? Oh wait... he was there wasn't he? Huh. Anderson was never dismissed from UGA's team. He was suspended then left school.

Did Chris Smith start? Here's UGA's official website showing game participation:

LINK .

You can look on page 5 to see who started (it says start) who participated (has XXXX) and who didn't (has -----) by each player's name.

Chris Smith for the SECCG was listed as a participant (X's). Dan Jackson was the starter... just as he was the prior two games when Smith was hurt. And Dan Jackson was a walk on unranked prospect.

Please stop pretending you know what you're talking about when it comes to UGA football. YOu're incorrect about 90% of what you say.
This post was edited on 3/30/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted by ClaimToFame
Member since Nov 2017
1580 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 2:52 pm to
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mbogo

Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
2543 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 3:28 pm to
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So the end result is:

"Bama problems count. Other teams problems don't.

Georgia had far fewer problems, which is the point.

It wasn't 13 snaps in the SECCG. You can ask djsdawg since he made the same mistake.

Anderson wasn't allowed to participate in Pro Day.

I don't know what the link is so just so show me the injury report since CBS had him starting on their broadcast.

Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32903 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 4:04 pm to
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Bama problems count. Other teams problems don't."


He has always been this way with him. Its his coping mechanism.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 3/30/23 at 4:09 pm to
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They can't be refuted since there are starting lineups, the game itself, etc.


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