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re: Which Georgia team was better? 2021 or 2022?

Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 4:37 pm to
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The NC game defense was better because of who was missing from Bama.


Ignoring all of the missing uga players of course, they don’t count
Posted by Vulcan Materials
Member since May 2022
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:17 pm to
If Alabama had WRs other than Jameson that could actually catch footballs that year, Alabama would’ve won that game pretty handily both times. Georgia had no answer for him whatsoever and was aided by the fact several key throws which would’ve been touchdowns or goal line completions were incompletions.


Felt sorry for Bryce Young. Kid was busting his arse while all those bums in the WR corps were playing like high schoolers. That game was not his fault by any measure.
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:20 pm to
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If

Posted by Pulpwood Patterson
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 5:57 pm to
Right I mean who could beat that AL team….except Texas A&M, and nearly UF, AU, AR, and LSU right?

Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:31 pm to
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They're sick of hearing so-called fans embarrass the rest of the fanbase with their pacifier-sucking whining.


Just stating facts.
Posted by Diego Ricardo
Alabama
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:32 pm to
I think 2021 was the better team tbh. 2022 had an easier path to the title.
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
1940 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:36 pm to
If...if...if....just a bunch of 'if's. If my aunt Mary had a mustache, she'd be my uncle Fred. UGA had a ton of IFs too. If all of our players had not have been injured who knows how bad we'd have beat them.
And uh, before you start building up ol Young, you might wanna consider that last throw. Yeah, it was right on the money, to Ringo.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:36 pm to
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The SEC championship game was a classic Kirby frick up. Completely outthought himself and then stuck to his guns with heavy pressure and blitzes and won the rematch.



His different strategy wasn't doing any better than the first game. The difference was the number of Bama starters that weren't there for the rematch due to injury.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:37 pm to
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Ignoring all of the missing uga players of course, they don’t count



You mean like JT Daniels?
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
1940 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:38 pm to
No, you're not stating facts, just stating a bunch of lame excuses. Even many within your own fanbase see this now. Or at least the ones who have grown a ball sack and take losing like real men and women.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:40 pm to
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No, you're not stating facts, just stating a bunch of lame excuses. Even many within your own fanbase see this now. Or at least the ones who have grown a ball sack and take losing like real men and women.


Then refute the facts.
Posted by GoldenDawg
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:41 pm to
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weren't there

Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:41 pm to
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If Alabama had WRs other than Jameson that could actually catch footballs that year, Alabama would’ve won that game pretty handily both times. Georgia had no answer for him whatsoever and was aided by the fact several key throws which would’ve been touchdowns or goal line completions were incompletions.


Felt sorry for Bryce Young. Kid was busting his arse while all those bums in the WR corps were playing like high schoolers. That game was not his fault by any measure.


Having depth is part of what makes a football team good.

UGA was without George Pickens most of the 2021 season. He was a 2nd round NFL WR who started most of last season as a rookie.

They had other WR injuries and leaned on two 3-star freshman WR's (Ladd McConkey and AD Mitchell) and didn't have to make excuses and won the national title anyway.

If losing a single player causes your entire offense to crumble, you have a depth issue. Brock Bowers was likely the best player on UGA's roster the last two seasons, but UGA could handle his loss if he got injured pretty well. Why? 5-star Darnell Washington was his backup and he'll likely be the second TE taken in the upcoming draft despite being a backup. And UGA had depth after Washington as well (look for Oscar Delp this upcoming season and 3rd string TE John Fitzpatrick went in the 6th round last draft despite having just 200 career yards receiving).

Not having depth at a position shouldn't be used as an excuse for a high level recruiting team like Bama, UGA or Ohio State. Bama had a ton of other highly rated WR's on their roster. Those guys just shite the bed.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:46 pm to
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The NC game defense was better because of who was missing from Bama.


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mbogo



Gump is still melting 14 months later.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:48 pm to
2022 was the more complete team. '21's defense was the best defense CFB has seen in 15 years and one of the best ever.

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I think 2021 was the better team tbh. 2022 had an easier path to the title.

This is fair. Why can't more Bama fans be like this?
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:49 pm to
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His different strategy wasn't doing any better than the first game. The difference was the number of Bama starters that weren't there for the rematch due to injury.



MEEEEEELLLLLTTTTT!
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 6:54 pm to
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Then refute the facts.


The fact is there wasn't a whole lot of difference in passing performance for Bama in the two games.

Bama had 52 more passing yards in the SECCG than they had in the national championship game. 421 to 369. The difference in the two games wasn't anything but the performance of the two teams in terms of turnovers.

In the SECCG, UGA had 2 turnovers (both picks), Bama had 0. In the NCG, Bama had 2 turnovers (both picks), UGA had 1 (the oddball fumble everyone thought was an incomplete pass originally).

The difference in result was pretty much solely based on the fact that Stetson played bad in the SECCG while Young played well, while Stetson played great in the NCG while Young played okay but not as good as the SECCG.

In both games, had the two teams been even in turnovers, the games would have been neck and neck. Both both were larger margins due to the difference in QB turnovers in the matchups. Bama would have been within 1 score without the last pick six (both teams would have had 1 turnover in that scenario). UGA would have been within 1 score had Stet not had his two turnovers (It would have been a 10-14 point swing as one was a pick 6 and the other was a pick when UGA was already in FG range)

The excuses are just that... excuses. Like many games between top teams, turnovers were the main factor, and in both games it was more about QB's making errors than WR's screwing up for all the turnovers that occurred.
Posted by mbogo
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 7:04 pm to
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The fact is there wasn't a whole lot of difference in passing performance for Bama in the two games.



There is a big difference if you watched the game and not just the stat sheet.

Having so may starters out isn't an excuse, it's a fact. You're trying to equate turnovers, players making mistakes, with injuries and players being out, which is nonsense.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32759 posts
Posted on 3/29/23 at 7:07 pm to
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Having so may starters out isn't an excuse, it's a fact.


Only for your team, never for the other team
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 3/29/23 at 7:15 pm to
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There is a big difference if you watched the game and not just the stat sheet.

Having so may starters out isn't an excuse, it's a fact. You're trying to equate turnovers, players making mistakes, with injuries and players being out, which is nonsense.


UGA starters who were not starters due to injury in the SECCG.

Chris Smith - Starting safety. Was coming off injury as a reserve. Walk on Dan Jackson was starting (but I mean, a walk on free safety has no impact on passing, right?)

Kearis Jackson - 2020 leading WR. Playing through injuries in 2021, reinjured after UF game when he started to get back to normal.

George Pickens - 2021 projected #1 WR. Missed majority of the season. Had 5 receptions on the year (though to be fair, 3 were in the 2 games against bams).

Tate Ratledge - Starting OG. Got injured in first game of the season.

Tykee Smith - All American Safety prior season.

Jalen Kimber - 2021 projected starting CB.

Arian Smith - UGA's best deep threat WR. (Unfortunately he's gotten injured EVERY season at UGA)

Dominick Blaylock - Top UGA WR recruit. Very limited in action late in the year, but never the same player.

Adam Anderson - UGA's starting LB and leading pass rusher. Suspended second half of the season.

Is it a fact that UGA had those losses? It is. It's also a fact we had the depth to handle the slew of WR and DB losses in 2021. The reality is Bama did NOT have the depth at WR to handle much lesser losses, despite having a larger number of "stars" from recruiting to pull from. That's why UGA fans don't have to bring it up all the time, because of our depth it didn't matter. Because of Bama's lack of depth... it did for them.

So while it's a fact that both teams had pretty significant losses to injury, it's also a fact that UGA handled their losses while Bama didn't.

Bama bringing up their losses as a reason for losing is an excuse because of that. Can you see it now?
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