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re: Where does Saban rank as a game day coach in the sec?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:14 am to AlaTiger
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:14 am to AlaTiger
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If Malzahn can continue to recruit as he has, Auburn will overtake Alabama and Saban's frustration will grow.
Lol. It's been one season. We still have no idea how good he will be. Everyone is so quick to blame all the negatives on Chizik and give all the credit to Malzahn.
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Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:17 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Spurrier, Gus, Sumlin, Mullens are all in a category above Saban.
Saban is probably in a middle tier with your average gameday coaches IMO.
You wouldn't agree the sky is blue over Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:17 am to Aman
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Auburn fans believe Malzahn will surpass Saban's success before he is done. Who knows they may be right.
I don't. I think he'll be successful, and is arguably better than Saban at elements of the game, but Auburn has a lot more obstacles to overcome than Alabama to replicate that success.
Gus, while liked and respected, wasn't ushered into Auburn with great fanfare and huge national attention. He still doesn't get that treatment. He'll have to work harder and do a little more with a little less if he wants to come close to what Saban has accomplished, and I just doubt that happens (at least all the way).
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:19 am to Aman
quote:I think there is potential that he ends up being good enough to argue about who was the better football mind, but I don't think he will be able to replicate the hardware Saban has won. In the end, that will probably trump any debate. Hell, Malzahn still has to prove himself worthy over time before we even start this discussion.
Auburn fans believe Malzahn will surpass Saban's success before he is done.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:20 am to CapstoneGrad06
My comments are fair. Saban is a pretty average gameday coach. He doesn't screw up and get bama beat, but he isn't gonna make great in game adjustments to win a game bama is losing often either.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:21 am to WDE24
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he rarely needs to make the proper in game adjustments to win.
True
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He doesn't adjust well
Also true because of the above statement
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:23 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
There's only one coach you listed that even makes a case for an argument. Sumlin has had a roller coaster career. Malzahn has two seasons as a head coach. And Mullen hasn't beaten a divisional team other than Ole Miss or Arkansas.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:23 am to Rebman601
Considering his innate ability to decide when to play for overtime and when to go for hail mary field goal kicks, I give him a ranking of "full retard" 
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:23 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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My comments are fair. Saban is a pretty average gameday coach.
When your defense leads the SEC in total defense every single year, I'd say you are just a little above average as a gameday coach.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:29 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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ut he isn't gonna make great in game adjustments to win a game bama is losing often either.
A&M was beating the shite out of Bama in 2012. Saban adjusted well in that game and Bama nearly pulled it out. UGA took control of the SEC title game in 2012. Saban adjusted and won the game. Other than 2010 USC and 2008 Utah Bama has not been beatdown under Saban. He adjusts just fine most of the time. Seems to me Malzahn did a shitty job adjusting to what FSU threw at him in the 2nd half of the title game. How come he takes no flack for that meltdown?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:31 am to Funky Tide 8
Fair point. He does call a good game defensively against most teams. I still think that is mostly talent and schemes and fundamentals, 90% of which is not gameday coaching IMO.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:33 am to Aman
Did #2 Malzahn not Lose to #14 (3 loss) LSU. AU is obviously better than LSU, so it must be Malzahn is a bad game day coach !!
Did Spurrier lose to 5-7 Tennessee?
Did Stanford lose to 5-7 Utah ?
Some times you miss a field goal or turnover or play a team with a Bye week.
Did Spurrier lose to 5-7 Tennessee?
Did Stanford lose to 5-7 Utah ?
Some times you miss a field goal or turnover or play a team with a Bye week.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:34 am to Aman
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A&M was beating the shite out of Bama in 2012. Saban adjusted well in that game and Bama nearly pulled it out. UGA took control of the SEC title game in 2012. Saban adjusted and won the game. Other than 2010 USC and 2008 Utah Bama has not been beatdown under Saban. He adjusts just fine most of the time. Seems to me Malzahn did a shitty job adjusting to what FSU threw at him in the 2nd half of the title game. How come he takes no flack for that meltdown?
This is ignorant and I could pick it apart if I had more time.
Briefly though he didn't adjust much against A&M in 2012. Bama just slowly crept back into it, but A&M still scored when they needed to and won.
Terrible troll on Gus in the NC game. I'll just assume you didn't watch the game.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:36 am to CNB
Spurrier is the only one I would even entertain. The other ones have too small of a sample size or Les Miles and Richt....
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:38 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Briefly though he didn't adjust much against A&M in 2012. Bama just slowly crept back into it, but A&M still scored when they needed to and won.
They were down 21-0 at the end of the first quarter and were only down 21-14 at half. How is that slowly creeping back into it?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:40 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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Terrible troll on Gus in the NC game. I'll just assume you didn't watch the game.
So if Saban loses it is bad game day coaching, but if Auburn loses a game it should have won there are circumstances way out of Malzahn's control that caused it to happen?
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:57 am to WDE24
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He is mediocre on game day. He doesn't adjust well. Fortunately for him, he recruits the best players and has a very good process in place, so he rarely needs to make the proper in game adjustments to win.
yeah ...ok....mediacore lol? Oh jesus wait until he gets better then. Watch out SEC lol
Posted on 8/27/14 at 9:59 am to MrBiriwa
quote:I don't think he will change much at this point.
wait until he gets better then.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:00 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
Saban has never lost in a championship game.
Posted on 8/27/14 at 10:10 am to CapstoneGrad06
Aj sucks too but Alabama will suck without him this year. Wait... 
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