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lsupride87
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When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs

According to SEC refs, possession started the millisecond Mond touches the ball with his knee on the ground after the fumble. Y considered this enough evidence to actually overturn the call on the field



Now fast forward

Two hands on the ball below is not considered possession, enough to actually overturn the call on the field again




How in the blue hell can both the above be true?
This post was edited on 11/6 at 9:22 am


ConcreteThreshold
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
I've seen way too many say that two hands + knee does not = possession.

If not, what is?


FreddieMac
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
Whenever the sec needs to control the outcome


lsupride87
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
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If not, what is?
Apparently just touching the top of the ball with one hand


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mcpotiger
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
Depends totally on what team(s) are involved


Sun God
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
Glad we could beat both teams yesterday

Also the no safety call in the UT - UGA game was one of the worst calls in a hot minute


That LSU Guy
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
Sure seems that way.


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Darth_Vader
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
I’m still waiting to see the irrefutable video evidence the Bama player did indeed touch the ball. That’s the only way the call in the field of LSU removing the fumble can legit be overturned.

So where is it?


Srbtiger06
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
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I’m still waiting to see the irrefutable video evidence the Bama player did indeed touch the ball. That’s the only way the call in the field of LSU removing the fumble can legit be overturned


Same. There wasn't enough to overturn. Play should've stood.


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tigerfan 64
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
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Depends totally on what team(s) are involved

The correct call is whichever goes against LSU.

The sec officials have shown this to be the rule.


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RealDawg
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
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Also the no safety call in the UT - UGA game was one of the worst calls in a hot minute


1-the LSU call of saying Bama touching while out of bounds before LSU could possess..maybe. Still think him having both hands on it should trump dude touching it from out of bounds.

2- UGA safety. Still waiting on why the call “stands”. Dude was down and ball never got out of end zone.

20 cameras and people on replay with only the job of getting it right…they have to do better.


TigerNAtux
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
Have to wonder what those replay officials are looking at. It’s maddening how much they get wrong.


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BigDropper
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
his knee is not down in this pic



ETA: then the Latu touches the ball (again before the knee is down) and the ball moves.
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thetruth2006
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
You do realize the knee in that screenshot is not Brooks’ knee? Brooks’ knees are out of the screenshot and touching the ground.


TigerDat
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
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When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs by BigDropper
his knee is not down in this pic


Watch the video replay, Brooks knee was down but iut of this frame. Then Bama player swatted at the ball.


Like OP said, what's the difference in the 2? Other than 1 overturned a pic in a game which would have sealed the LSU win.

The other overturned a fumble recovery and ked to a field goal that caused the game to need OT.


BigDropper
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
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You do realize the knee in that screenshot is not Brooks’ knee? Brooks’ knees are out of the screenshot and touching the ground.

incorrect. You can clearly see one of Brooks' knee in the frame. His other knee is behind his leg in the frame.

you can see his yellow pants under his leg in the foreground. his knee is behind his calf muscle.

Now look at the knee in the foreground. see that little yellow speck? that's his pants.



See this image, it's a few milliseconds after that image.



you're wrong.


BigDropper
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
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Watch the video replay, Brooks knee was down but iut of this frame.


Clearly, you need to watch the replay. I see two knees, neither of which are down.



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lewis and herschel
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
My take with their rules is the lsu player had it in both hands, when the bama player swiped at it, the moment he touched the ball, play ended with lsu possession.


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White Tiger
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
It is about manipulating the outcome. It is as simple as that. They "get away with it" because most people are hopelessly stupid.



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White Tiger
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re: When does possession start on a fumble recovery? Mond vs Brooks and SEC refs
But LSU had possession if/when the Gump touched it. That is indisputable. Either way it is LSU ball.


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